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Old 05-15-2022, 09:23 PM   #51
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Don’t get butt hurt…
Yes, I am guilty of being a fan of those that had a distinguished career in the military.
Just trying to figure out why you don’t think he’s qualified.
Which you have failed to explain…


I’m incapable of getting butthurt

I have explained by opinions as best as I can
(See post 40). I never said he’s a career politician and I never said I don’t think he’s qualified to be the VP of the NRA. Please read my words and don’t make them up yourself.

I have no idea if he could make a good VP or not. I said his military service doesn’t automatically make him “more than qualified.” Your quote by the way. I stand by that statement.

I’ve explained my opinions and I’ve showed his political career since leaving the military. I’m not sure what else you want from little ole me

Try adding something of substance to this thread by explaining what, in your opinion, makes him “more than qualified” to be the leader of the NRA.

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Old 05-15-2022, 09:49 PM   #52
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I’m incapable of getting butthurt

I have explained by opinions as best as I can
(See post 40). I never said he’s a career politician and I never said I don’t think he’s qualified to be the VP of the NRA. Please read my words and don’t make them up yourself.

I have no idea if he could make a good VP or not. I said his military service doesn’t automatically make him “more than qualified.” Your quote by the way. I stand by that statement.

I’ve explained my opinions and I’ve showed his political career since leaving the military. I’m not sure what else you want from little ole me

Try adding something of substance to this thread by explaining what, in your opinion, makes him “more than qualified” to be the leader of the NRA.
You haven’t added any substance to why he wouldn’t be a good replacement.
Try adding substance to that.

You said “Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision”
What do we need to educate ourselves with? There’s obviously something you don’t like about the man. What is it?

Kermit the frog would be better than Wayne.

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Old 05-15-2022, 10:03 PM   #53
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You haven’t added any substance to why he wouldn’t be a good replacement.
Try adding substance to that.

You said “Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision”
What do we need to educate ourselves with? There’s obviously something you don’t like about the man. What is it?

Kermit the frog would be better than Wayne.


AGAIN!!!! I “haven’t added any substance to why he wouldn’t be a good candidate” because I’m not convinced he wouldn’t be a good candidate. I have no idea if he would be good or not. I’ve stated this repeatedly. I can only explain it to you, I can’t understand it for you. Please try to have an open mind and re-read my comments on here. At this point your a broken record wanting me to prove something I don’t believe. Hopefully you can convince the board to vote for Kermit I guess
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Old 05-15-2022, 10:04 PM   #54
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I don't know how much truth there is to these articles, but they highlight some of the weaknesses and failings that I have come to believe of LaPierre. It makes for interesting reading. Form your own opinion.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...luctant-leader

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-...8030d4f9461f61

An excerpt: To be sure, it’s not unusual for chief executives of organizations the size of the NRA to travel by private plane or live lifestyles beyond the means of most people. But LaPierre’s alleged misspending of NRA membership dues came even as the group was urging supporters to donate so that it would have enough cash to battle gun control efforts.

Board members and former NRA leaders who support LaPierre didn’t respond to requests for comment or referred questions to the NRA. Others who are skeptical of LaPierre’s leadership said the trial has only reaffirmed their concerns.

“I’m looking for the next Wayne,” said Phillip Journey, a board member and Kansas judge who is set to testify during the trial next week. “This can’t go on forever.”"
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Old 05-15-2022, 10:26 PM   #55
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AGAIN!!!! I “haven’t added any substance to why he wouldn’t be a good candidate” because I’m not convinced he wouldn’t be a good candidate. I have no idea if he would be good or not. I’ve stated this repeatedly. I can only explain it to you, I can’t understand it for you. Please try to have an open mind and re-read my comments on here. At this point your a broken record wanting me to prove something I don’t believe. Hopefully you can convince the board to vote for Kermit I guess
Oh.. so your comment was pointless. Got it
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Old 05-15-2022, 10:26 PM   #56
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Don’t get butt hurt…
Yes, I am guilty of being a fan of those that had a distinguished career in the military.
Just trying to figure out why you don’t think he’s qualified.
Which you have failed to explain…
Perhaps if you told us why you think he is qualified to run it that might help make some headway here?
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Old 05-15-2022, 10:26 PM   #57
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Perhaps if you told us why you think he is qualified to run it that might help make some headway here?
I think his career speaks for itself.
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Old 05-16-2022, 05:57 AM   #58
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I think his career speaks for itself.


Well it doesn’t!
You’ve offered nothing else....
I guess you think everyone who served 20 years in the military is more than qualified to run the NRA just on their military career alone. You even think Kermit the frog could be the head of the NRA. There’s no reasoning with such flawed logic.

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Old 05-16-2022, 07:21 AM   #59
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I’m done going around in circles with you. I have nothing against Col Allen West. I’ve attended one of his speeches before. He’s a hell of a speaker and best I can tell a good man.

I also never called him a career politician.

I called him a career candidate. He’s never held any office more than two years, but he’s constantly trying to land somewhere.

You’re obviously a fan of his and somehow me telling folks to educate themselves about Col West has rubbed you wrong.
Isn't that a good thing? After all most of us are in favor of term limits, right?
Give him a cpl years at NRA and let him move on again, maybe?

Maybe we need more of our current "politicians" to be "career candidates".

Asking for a friend.....
(not necessarily an AW fan, haven't researched him enough yet)
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Old 05-16-2022, 07:22 AM   #60
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Well it doesn’t!
You’ve offered nothing else....
I guess you think everyone who served 20 years in the military is more than qualified to run the NRA just on their military career alone. You even think Kermit the frog could be the head of the NRA. There’s no reasoning with such flawed logic.
And you haven’t offered anything on why he wouldn’t be a good replacement…
I said Kermit would be better than Wayne…
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Old 05-16-2022, 07:36 AM   #61
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His military career was impressive. That has nothing to do with his political career though. I mean, I know a few guys who retired from military service and are prospering in a 2nd career.

What’s the point you’re trying to make?

John McCain had an impressive military career too, but he also had a political career as a Senator for 31 years.


Would you call 31 years as a Senator a career?
Define impressive...
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Old 05-16-2022, 08:03 AM   #62
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Old 05-16-2022, 09:55 AM   #63
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You haven’t added any substance to why he wouldn’t be a good replacement.
Try adding substance to that.

You said “Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision”
What do we need to educate ourselves with? There’s obviously something you don’t like about the man. What is it?

Kermit the frog would be better than Wayne.
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AGAIN!!!! I “haven’t added any substance to why he wouldn’t be a good candidate” because I’m not convinced he wouldn’t be a good candidate. I have no idea if he would be good or not. I’ve stated this repeatedly. I can only explain it to you, I can’t understand it for you. Please try to have an open mind and re-read my comments on here. At this point your a broken record wanting me to prove something I don’t believe. Hopefully you can convince the board to vote for Kermit I guess
Dang guys…y’all need to both chill. I will straddle the fence because I know you both and y’all are a lot more alike than different IMO. I actually can see both sides here. Well, except where Rubi says Kermit the Frog would be better than Wayne. 🤔 I mean, he would obviously spend less money on himself but I’m not sure he’s really qualified for the job. 😂

The bottom line is Wayne needs to be held accountable. He’s basically a poster child for political (politicians on the take) term limits. I stopped financing his escapades and lifestyle years ago. I will throw a monkey wrench in this and say that the NRA WAS the best org for gun owners for many years but like a lot of things, it has changed. Until it is reformed I will support other orgs like GOA.

As for West, I personally really, REALLY liked him before his mishandling (IMO) of his wife’s traffic stop. While he had every right to defend his wife’s honor, he could have handled it with a little more humility. Yes, the arresting officer screwed up but so did Mrs West.
To me, it’s odd how he seems to try too hard to stay relevant and in the public eye. I’m not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing….just an observation.
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Old 05-16-2022, 10:09 AM   #64
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He might be right about Kermit. He definitely would spend less money on clothes.


https://www.gq.com/story/nra-ceo-way...erre-suits/amp




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Old 05-16-2022, 10:41 AM   #65
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Old 05-16-2022, 10:43 AM   #66
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He might be right about Kermit. He definitely would spend less money on clothes.


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Freaking insane!!
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The only thing I can "add" to this conversation is that a 20 year career (or longer) in the military does not "automatically" qualify anyone for an executive position. I can give you several examples of "distinguished" military guys who have recently demonstrated that this is NOT the case when it comes to public office or executives... John McCain and Dan Crenshaw are the first two that come to mind...
The military career does give one an indication that they can follow orders and be an "organizer" but hey, Obama was good at those two! So outside the military career of West, I don't know siccum from com'ere about him other than when he tried to strong arm the police because they hammered his wife on a traffic stop... and a stop that was because she was in the wrong and in violation... He didn't show very good judgement and tactical skills in that situation... imagine if the lefties were out protesting his event and he was running the NRA... He could apply some of that Iraqi interrogation technique or fixing his wife's ticket to them...
...I'm jus' sayin'... Since I told the NRA to go suck eggs and stopped supporting them a few years back, I guess technically I have no dog in this fight...

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Old 05-16-2022, 12:55 PM   #68
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Well said Charlie, I’m a life member of the TSRA, but the NRA will never get another penny from me until until there’s major changes. I’m surprised they are still in business. I guess it’s because constant scare tactics work. They learned that from the democrats
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Old 05-17-2022, 10:40 AM   #69
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I saw this on the TexasHuntingForum. It's very interesting and worth the read. Now whether or not it's legitimate I have no idea, but if it is it speaks to what's become of the NRA.

https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/...rs#Post8573033
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Oh wow.......swirling toilet sound....lol!!

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