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JBizkit · 03-21-2023, 10:31 PM

Just curious if anyone knows of a reputable place/person to appraise a gun for me. It is a very old double barrel 10 guage shotgun from a gunmaker in England. I'm thinking it is from the late 1800's to early 1900's. I inheritated it and just curious what the value of it may be.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Raider4044 · 03-21-2023, 10:56 PM

Post some pics and info on here.

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Artos · 03-21-2023, 10:58 PM

It will likely be a tough one if there is no true history of any sold items of the same gun purchased recently on the net...only suggestion I have is to post pics to know condition & the make / model to see if it can be researched.

It's like asking what a 1/4 truck is worth...these are 10ga searches.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/se...=1&the_order=6

https://www.gunbroker.com/Shotguns/s...13&PageSize=48

jaspermac · 03-22-2023, 06:23 AM

It looks like the 10 gauge was invented in 1932, but some older models in England. Can you tell what brand? J Purdey?

JakeM · 03-22-2023, 06:54 AM

Where are you located? Larry Feland in houston would probably be a good source of information, or collectors firearms maybe

JBizkit · 03-22-2023, 08:06 AM

Thank you for all the replies. I will try and get some pictures tonight when I get home.

I am located in Fort Worth for those asking.

It does have some engraving on it but I don’t remember off the top of my head. It has some gold inlays and the two hammers are horses/horse feet if I remember correctly. It’s been in my safe for a few years.

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Buckshot4900 · 03-22-2023, 08:18 AM

My unprofessional opinion is that it’s priceless since you inherited it.

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muzzlebrake · 03-22-2023, 10:01 AM

There used to be some guys at Winchester range over on Lancaster & 820 that would have known. Might give them a call. My friend here in Euless EGA is retired and the boys working there now won't have a clue. Maybe someone associated with Alpine gun range might know since they shoot a lot of scatter guns down there.

muzzlebrake · 03-22-2023, 10:07 AM

If it's a W.W. Greener stagecoach gun it might be worth a lot

I think Greener breech load doubles came out around 1875. those were damascus barrels and used black powder loads

chaseh · 03-22-2023, 10:43 AM

Shotgunworld.com has a lot of information. I inherited a old english sxs built by P. Webley & Sons in London that I think I narrowed down to be built from 1893-1897. Both hammers are broken at different places, but it is a beautiful gun that makes a great conversation piece. Values for it in 2009 appeared to be 1k-3k, but don't believe that accounted for any damage. Never got it officially inspected.

Cajun Blake · 03-22-2023, 06:17 PM

If European, I’m guessing it’s a guild gun. Possibly made by an apprentice GS who did elaborate metal and wood work. Most of those guns are no longer shootable due to the Damascus steel used. They’re known as wall hangers and family heirlooms. If you have what I’m describing, value is insurance around $250. Since it’s family, it’s priceless.

Drycreek3189 · 03-22-2023, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jaspermac

It looks like the 10 gauge was invented in 1932, but some older models in England. Can you tell what brand? J Purdey?

Ten gauges are much older than that. That date could be right for the ten gauge for smokeless powders I don’t know, but ten gauges were popular in the 1800s. Most farmers had a shotgun and lots of them were ten gauges. My grandpa had one but I never saw it. My dad told me about it and he was born in 1906.

JBizkit · 03-31-2023, 09:56 PM

I can make out C.F. Manton, London on the barrel. It says #613 I believe. It's definitely not in the best shape, but it's really cool looking.

KyleW · 03-31-2023, 10:01 PM

Upload some pictures!

JBizkit · 03-31-2023, 10:05 PM

10-4. Taking some now.......

Keg · 04-01-2023, 07:41 AM

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...c767_p1_o6.cfm

Some are pricey…

muzzlebrake · 04-01-2023, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189

Ten gauges are much older than that. That date could be right for the ten gauge for smokeless powders I don’t know, but ten gauges were popular in the 1800s. Most farmers had a shotgun and lots of them were ten gauges. My grandpa had one but I never saw it. My dad told me about it and he was born in 1906.

Doc Holliday used a sawed off COLT 1878 10 gauge to kill Tom McClaury at the OK corral fight. He only fired the one shot before switching to his pistol. This old double hammer Stagecoach gun was handed to him by Virgil Earp and was not Doc's weapon of choice.

03-21-2023, 10:31 PM	#1
JBizkit Eight Point Join Date: Dec 2011	Gun Appraisal Just curious if anyone knows of a reputable place/person to appraise a gun for me. It is a very old double barrel 10 guage shotgun from a gunmaker in England. I'm thinking it is from the late 1800's to early 1900's. I inheritated it and just curious what the value of it may be. Thanks in advance for any help.

03-21-2023, 10:58 PM	#3
Artos Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Deep South TX Hunt In: Deep South TX	It will likely be a tough one if there is no true history of any sold items of the same gun purchased recently on the net...only suggestion I have is to post pics to know condition & the make / model to see if it can be researched. It's like asking what a 1/4 truck is worth...these are 10ga searches. https://www.gunsinternational.com/se...=1&the_order=6 https://www.gunbroker.com/Shotguns/s...13&PageSize=48 Last edited by Artos; 03-21-2023 at 11:02 PM.

03-22-2023, 06:23 AM	#4
jaspermac Ten Point Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Jasper, TX Hunt In: Jasper/Doole	It looks like the 10 gauge was invented in 1932, but some older models in England. Can you tell what brand? J Purdey? Last edited by jaspermac; 03-22-2023 at 06:26 AM.

04-01-2023, 07:41 AM	#16
Keg Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Freestone county Hunt In: Freestone county	https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...c767_p1_o6.cfm Some are pricey… Last edited by Keg; 04-01-2023 at 07:43 AM.

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03-21-2023, 10:56 PM	#2
Raider4044 Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Lamesa	Post some pics and info on here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-22-2023, 06:54 AM	#5
JakeM Ten Point Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Deer Park Hunt In: Gillespie Co, Kimble Co, Liberty Co.	Where are you located? Larry Feland in houston would probably be a good source of information, or collectors firearms maybe

03-22-2023, 08:06 AM	#6
JBizkit Eight Point Join Date: Dec 2011	Gun Appraisal Thank you for all the replies. I will try and get some pictures tonight when I get home. I am located in Fort Worth for those asking. It does have some engraving on it but I don’t remember off the top of my head. It has some gold inlays and the two hammers are horses/horse feet if I remember correctly. It’s been in my safe for a few years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-22-2023, 08:18 AM	#7
Buckshot4900 Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Lake Fork (Emory) Hunt In: Texas/Mississippi	My unprofessional opinion is that it’s priceless since you inherited it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

03-22-2023, 10:01 AM	#8
muzzlebrake Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Euless, Texas Hunt In: Sterling County	There used to be some guys at Winchester range over on Lancaster & 820 that would have known. Might give them a call. My friend here in Euless EGA is retired and the boys working there now won't have a clue. Maybe someone associated with Alpine gun range might know since they shoot a lot of scatter guns down there.

03-22-2023, 10:07 AM	#9
muzzlebrake Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Euless, Texas Hunt In: Sterling County	If it's a W.W. Greener stagecoach gun it might be worth a lot I think Greener breech load doubles came out around 1875. those were damascus barrels and used black powder loads

03-22-2023, 10:43 AM	#10
chaseh Four Point Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Waco area Hunt In: Carrizo	Shotgunworld.com has a lot of information. I inherited a old english sxs built by P. Webley & Sons in London that I think I narrowed down to be built from 1893-1897. Both hammers are broken at different places, but it is a beautiful gun that makes a great conversation piece. Values for it in 2009 appeared to be 1k-3k, but don't believe that accounted for any damage. Never got it officially inspected.

03-22-2023, 06:17 PM	#11
Cajun Blake Associate Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SW Louisiana Hunt In: public & pvt land	If European, I’m guessing it’s a guild gun. Possibly made by an apprentice GS who did elaborate metal and wood work. Most of those guns are no longer shootable due to the Damascus steel used. They’re known as wall hangers and family heirlooms. If you have what I’m describing, value is insurance around $250. Since it’s family, it’s priceless.

03-31-2023, 09:56 PM	#13
JBizkit Eight Point Join Date: Dec 2011	I can make out C.F. Manton, London on the barrel. It says #613 I believe. It's definitely not in the best shape, but it's really cool looking.

03-31-2023, 10:01 PM	#14
KyleW Ten Point Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Forney Hunt In: McGregor	Upload some pictures!

03-31-2023, 10:05 PM	#15
JBizkit Eight Point Join Date: Dec 2011	10-4. Taking some now.......