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Old 01-12-2022, 06:44 PM   #1
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My son's Pudelpointer got sick and threw up about 20 times this afternoon. She'd been outside. Neighbor has a tree that has some kind of berry-like fruit on it. Lots still on the tree, but lots on the ground too. I don't know what the tree is. Do you?

Vet said he thinks it's a stomach bug. Gave her nausea meds and keeping her overnight.

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Old 01-12-2022, 06:51 PM   #2
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Looks like China berry. Probably made him drunk.
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Old 01-12-2022, 06:53 PM   #3
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Raised dogs around China Berry trees for years and never had one get sick from it. Never saw one pay any attention to the berries ether.
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Old 01-12-2022, 06:53 PM   #4
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Could be. Were there any berries in his vomit?
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Old 01-12-2022, 06:56 PM   #5
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Yep China Berry tree. Never seen a dog eating the berries.
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Old 01-12-2022, 07:14 PM   #6
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I wouldn’t look at that tree to hard or it might break in half……those trees suck
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Old 01-12-2022, 07:20 PM   #7
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Old 01-12-2022, 07:25 PM   #8
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We called those China berry trees when I was a kid, yes if you eat them, they will make you puke. Or at least I did the one time I tried them as a kid.
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Old 01-12-2022, 07:39 PM   #9
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Covid berry tree.
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Old 01-12-2022, 07:41 PM   #10
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Definitely a Chinaberry. Remedy and diesel will take care of it!
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Old 01-12-2022, 07:44 PM   #11
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Good ammo for slingshots.
Bad to shoot them and spread the seeds.
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Old 01-12-2022, 08:02 PM   #12
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Yep that is a Chinaberry tree

Did not know anything ate those berries
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Old 01-12-2022, 08:05 PM   #13
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Animals will eat them. After a freeze, the berry will ferment and become slightly toxic. will make animals seem drunk and vomit. Birds will eat them and then fall out of the tree sometimes and sit on the ground out of it.
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Old 01-12-2022, 08:37 PM   #14
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Robins eat the berries after they mature... When I was a kid I hunted the chinaberry trees at my uncle's house...
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Old 01-12-2022, 08:41 PM   #15
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I watched deer eat them 15’ away from our home when other resources were low
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Old 01-12-2022, 09:37 PM   #16
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They will kill hogs too.
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Old 01-12-2022, 09:48 PM   #17
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I wouldn’t look at that tree to hard or it might break in half……those trees suck
Yep. Ask my brother. Broke both arms just below his wrists when he was 8 y/o when a limb broke out from under him.

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Old 01-12-2022, 10:01 PM   #18
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Good ammo for slingshots.
Bad to shoot them and spread the seeds.
This. We had many chinaberry fights with slingshots as kids. Old but good memories.
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Old 01-12-2022, 10:25 PM   #19
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I grew up in the Panhandle, so I'm not up on all the trees.
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Old 01-12-2022, 10:35 PM   #20
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We had one of those in my back yard and it would make me sick.

We had a fort built up in it and every time we played in it the branch would break and we’d fall out of it!
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Old 01-12-2022, 10:42 PM   #21
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Good ammo for slingshots.
Bad to shoot them and spread the seeds.
Slingshots or if you could find some good size ones, just throw them to each other. Awesome weapons of opportunity…..
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Old 01-12-2022, 10:46 PM   #22
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20x is a significant amount in one afternoon and would worry me about an obstruction in the stomach or intestines. Maybe too many berries at once or ate something completely different?

Any x-rays taken?

Edit: We don’t have chinaberries down here that I’ve had to deal with, but apparently they can be extremely toxic and can cause death if consumed in large quantities.

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Old 01-12-2022, 10:52 PM   #23
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20x is a significant amount in one afternoon and would worry me about an obstruction in the stomach or intestines. Maybe too many berries at once or ate something completely different?

Any x-rays taken?

Edit: We don’t have chinaberries down here that I’ve had to deal with, but apparently they can be extremely toxic and can cause death if consumed in large quantities.

https://csuvth.colostate.edu/poisono...nts/Details/78
I don't know if the vet did X-rays or not. They talked about her eating pecans and antlers and bones, so they at least talked about obstructions. I thought about the berries later. I'm betting that's what the problem is. I think that her throwing up that much is a good thing, if she ate something toxic. At least she got rid of it all (hopefully).
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Old 01-12-2022, 11:02 PM   #24
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She's a dang good dog. Just a puppy still. Not even a year old yet.

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Old 01-13-2022, 09:24 PM   #25
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She's fine now. She spent the night and most of today at the vet. Puking it all up likely helped. Good as new today. We picked up all the berries we could find. More still on the tree. Gonna talk to the owner of the tree about cutting it down.

We put the electric collar on her and set some berries out. Zapped her when she put her nose on them. Only took 2. After that, she wouldn't go near them. Maybe that'll help.

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Old 01-13-2022, 09:29 PM   #26
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Good news Shane, was just reading this again when you posted this update. Hope the neighbor makes firewood of that tree. Great hunting (and Santa!) pics of this cool pup.
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Old 01-13-2022, 09:53 PM   #27
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The tree is right on the fence, close to the house and chimney and power line, with a shed 10' away. Gonna be fun getting it down.

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Old 01-13-2022, 10:05 PM   #28
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Yeah Shane, I see the tree in your 4th pic right next to the fence and see the electric line going to the house too. Pretty tight work to bring that one down.
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Old 01-13-2022, 10:29 PM   #29
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Shane--

If your elect. meter is on your house, you should be able to get the electric co. to come take it down. The line is thiers to the meter and looks to be within 10' of the tree.
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Old 01-13-2022, 11:29 PM   #30
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If your elect. meter is on your house, you should be able to get the electric co. to come take it down. The line is thiers to the meter and looks to be within 10' of the tree.
I'll pass that on. That would be helpful. The house, tree, and electric line belongs to the owner of the house next to my son's house (both rent houses). We're just hoping that the guy next door will get rid of the chinaberry tree that's dropping berries into my son's dog pen.
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:17 AM   #31
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That little boy has grown into a full grown, fine looking man hasn't he? I can remember pictures of him when he was little and think how could that ugly ol" Shane have such a cute little boy. Your wife is probably gorgeous. You should be one proud Daddy.
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:46 AM   #32
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That little boy has grown into a full grown, fine looking man hasn't he? I can remember pictures of him when he was little and think how could that ugly ol" Shane have such a cute little boy. Your wife is probably gorgeous. You should be one proud Daddy.
Ha! Yeah, she's WAY better looking than me (not saying much). The kids benefitted from that. Zach and Morgan are both grown and married nowadays. Me and ol' Zach have been hunting together for a long time. Lord willing, that trend will continue for many more moons.
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Old 01-14-2022, 10:46 AM   #33
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Glad the dog's ok. I doubt the china berries made him sick, but if they did you can be pretty sure the dog won't eat them again. Dogs are pretty good about that.
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Old 01-14-2022, 10:56 AM   #34
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Good ammo for slingshots.
Bad to shoot them and spread the seeds.
And the forked limbs make good slingshot handles
Green china berry sling shot fights. Oh the memories we old timers have!
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Old 01-14-2022, 11:33 AM   #35
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Glad the dog's ok. I doubt the china berries made him sick, but if they did you can be pretty sure the dog won't eat them again. Dogs are pretty good about that.
A couple days earlier, she either had a seizure or a really wild dream. They were hollering at her to wake up when she started convulsing while sleeping. Finally got her to wake up, and she was seemingly OK. They still aren't sure if that was a seizure or just a wild dream. But seizures are another result of chinaberry ingestion, apparently.

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Old 01-14-2022, 11:44 AM   #36
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Should be able to legally cut down any branches that hang over the fence line onto your son's property and then you wouldn't have to worry about getting the neighbor on board with cutting it down entirely. With both houses being rentals I could see how coordinating renter and owner to have it removed would be a pain, unless you're offering to cover all costs.
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Old 01-14-2022, 12:03 PM   #37
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A couple days earlier, she either had a seizure or a really wild dream. They were hollering at her to wake up when she started convulsing while sleeping. Finally got her to wake up, and she was seemingly OK. They still aren't sure if that was a seizure or just a wild dream. But seizures are another result of chinaberry ingestion, apparently.

https://csuvth.colostate.edu/poisono...nts/Details/78

I have four of these trees in the back yard and they're huge. I see squirrels eat the bark and trim it to make nests but I've never seen any of the 6 dogs we've had here eat the berries, or any of the dozens of puppies we've raised to 7 weeks old. The dogs have eaten batteries, boat plugs, electric cable, water hoses, 2x4's, a/c insulation, the house itself, all sorts of things. I'd imagine they've sampled the berries and decided that's not something they want to eat again perhaps because they got sick. I was just saying that dogs are usually pretty good about not eating something twice that made them sick, that seems to be instinctual.
edit: Check the poops and see if there's berries in it?

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Old 01-14-2022, 12:13 PM   #38
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I have four of these trees in the back yard and they're huge. I see squirrels eat the bark and trim it to make nests but I've never seen any of the 6 dogs we've had here eat the berries, or any of the dozens of puppies we've raised to 7 weeks old. The dogs have eaten batteries, boat plugs, electric cable, water hoses, 2x4's, a/c insulation, the house itself, all sorts of things. I'd imagine they've sampled the berries and decided that's not something they want to eat again perhaps because they got sick. I was just saying that dogs are usually pretty good about not eating something twice that made them sick, that seems to be instinctual.
edit: Check the poops and see if there's berries in it?
She puked everything up, and they were not thinking about looking at it when they cleaned it up, unfortunately.

This pup eats just about anything that fits in her mouth. She'd eat her own turds when she was smaller. Haven't seen her do that in a while, thankfully. Found red plastic in an old **** yesterday when we were picking up all the chinaberries. She loves pecans and bugs and.....
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Old 01-14-2022, 03:38 PM   #39
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The wood is so light weight if any portion of it fell on the objects you mention it likely won’t hurt any of them. Really could just grab and break most of them off with your hands
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Axis deer will eat them down to nothing. They prefer chinaberry leaves to anything else I put out.
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