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Old 05-24-2021, 07:32 AM   #1
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Iím looking to buy a new tractor for a small 60 acre place Iím buying. In the price range Iím looking (25-33K), it looks like I can get into a 75 hp 2wd drive for about the same price as a 50 hp 4wd. Although the 4wd 50 hp has a cab as well. Tractor will be used for common common Rec property use, food plots, shredding etc. But it does have 2 pretty good sized creeks Iíll be needing to cross on occasion.

So my question is, would you rather have a 50 ish hp 4wd tractor with a cab, or opt for the bigger 75 hp 2wd tractor w no cab? I know the best option wouldíve to pony up a few more thousand and get into a 75 hp 4wd w a cab, but have a bunch of other things to purchase as well so trying not to break the bank. Thanks
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:34 AM   #2
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4wd hands down. I went with hp and 2wd. Getting ready to sell that tractor and buy a 4wd.
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:36 AM   #3
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4wd is a must for me.
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:38 AM   #4
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4wd hands down. I went with hp and 2wd. Getting ready to sell that tractor and buy a 4wd.
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Yea what I doní know is will a front end loader be enough to get me out of a sticky situation? My last place was pretty flat and dry. This place... not so much.
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:41 AM   #6
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4x- you won’t find very many new 2x’s for a reason ! Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it :-)
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:41 AM   #7
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Just like trucks, go with a 4wd.
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:46 AM   #8
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Yea what I doní know is will a front end loader be enough to get me out of a sticky situation? My last place was pretty flat and dry. This place... not so much.
Hard to use a front end loader on a small tractor without 4wd Surprised they make 2wd tractors
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:48 AM   #9
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I have farmed since the 1990s. 50 HP with 4WD is going to pull more than a 70 HP 2 WD. Think about it like a truck or ATV. Horsepower means nothing when you cant put it on the ground.
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:49 AM   #10
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Old 05-24-2021, 07:59 AM   #11
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To me, a lot depends on your soil type.
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:01 AM   #13
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:06 AM   #14
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50hp is plenty.. trust me..
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:11 AM   #15
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So I bought a 2wd Kubota 75hp with front end loader thinking why would you ever need 4wd..... It’s not about getting stuck it’s about the pulling power when plowing. I will never buy another 2wd it slips so much it simply will not plow when the ground is moist.
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:19 AM   #16
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2wd will tear up your land a lot faster than 4wd. Get the 4wd.
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I can’t figure out why a 2wd is even made anymore
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:25 AM   #18
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Just in case you need one more vote.
My first was 2wd
My second is 4wd and would not ever go back. I also would not be without the loader and I like that my Kioti is heavier than some other brands.

I donít have a cab, I have so many trees, plus I often have a helper talking to me to position the auger or something, that no cab works better for me on my small place.
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:27 AM   #19
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Get rid of the cab and get 4x4!
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Man ive been on a tractor a lot in my day and unless working in big dirt ag fields planting/plowing etc, 4x4 hasnt played much of a part in day to day cattle pasture upkeep. For standard chores like mowing, tandem disc, hay and maintaining give me that 75hp 2x4 ALL DAY with a 10' brush hog over a 50hp 4x4 and a 5 or 6' brush hog. But that's just me and my needs based on TX cattle land.
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Old 05-24-2021, 08:39 AM   #21
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The 4wd is the best choice of those two. I have a couple 2wd tractors that do everything I need them to do. Unless you’re running through lots of mud you won’t really need 4wd, but it’s there if you need it. Plus having a cab is just nice. The cab is a bonus that would end the discussion for me. A 50hp will do the things you’re describing with no problem

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Old 05-24-2021, 08:46 AM   #22
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Old 05-24-2021, 09:01 AM   #23
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Either one will do just fine. I’d be more concerned whether it required def. I’d get one without. Weight is a big factor. Older heavier 2wd do great work. Newer tractors need 4wd because they are built lighter. After all how did things get done before 4wds came into the picture?
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4wd no doubt.

2wd will get stuck just pulling a heavy disk. They are great for just shredding a dry field but anything else they can be burdensome.
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Old 05-24-2021, 09:11 AM   #25
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4wd and a cab!!!
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4wd unless you have a backhoe attachment on that you can dig yourself out of that creek when you get stuck.

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Old 05-24-2021, 09:14 AM   #27
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After all how did things get done before 4wds came into the picture?
They were done with 2wd tractors. Before 2wd tractors came into the picture they were done with mules and horses. Your point being?
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Old 05-24-2021, 09:16 AM   #28
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If you’re buying new, then definitely get a 4wd, but if you’re looking for a deal, a 2wd is definitely workable.

I’m using a 2 wd Kubota 7040 to maintain my 380 acres in OK. There are times a 4wd would be nice, but for what I paid for the tractor, I’m satisfied with what I got. Actually, it’s my favorite tractor I’ve ever owned, and I’ve had quite a few 2wd and 4wd.

Here’s mine...

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Old 05-24-2021, 09:17 AM   #29
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I agree on the 4x4 but millions of acres of corn and soy beans get planted every year here in Iowa with 2 wheel drive tractors. Yes....the big operators are running the newest latest greatest equipment, but the smaller operations are running older model JD, Case IH, White, Allis Chalmers etc. 2WD tractors. The Amish do everything with teams of draft horses....which is something to see.

I was in a new combine last fall that was operated by GPS. The operator starts the combine and puts it in auto pilot. The electronics do the rest. When the combine was full it calls a remote unmanned grain cart that pulls up along side the combine to offload the corn. There are definitely high tech and low tech farming operations

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They were done with 2wd tractors. Before 2wd tractors came into the picture they were done with mules and horses. Your point being?
Obviously a skilled operator can do all he needs with a 2wd with sufficient horsepower.
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4x4. These new tractors aren't close to as heavy as the ole 2wd tractors were. Even still, 4x4 has so much more capability. About the time loaders on AG tractors became popular is when 4x4 started to become popular. Its a must for FEL work.

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2wd will get stuck just pulling a heavy disk.
It can if the driver is a moron. Raise the disc before you get stuck.
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Man ive been on a tractor a lot in my day and unless working in big dirt ag fields planting/plowing etc, 4x4 hasnt played much of a part in day to day cattle pasture upkeep. For standard chores like mowing, tandem disc, hay and maintaining give me that 75hp 2x4 ALL DAY with a 10' brush hog over a 50hp 4x4 and a 5 or 6' brush hog. But that's just me and my needs based on TX cattle land.
Same here. For simple work like your talking about I would go for the larger tractor that will allow twice the coverage. The problem with your scenario is that you probably will only use it when you go to the lease and that doesn't matter what the conditions are like. Most people don't let the land tell them when to perform work they tell the land when its going to get worked and that's why people get stuck in the mud.
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4wd. You'll get into a situation where you'll need it. Trust me on this.
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So I bought a 2wd Kubota 75hp with front end loader thinking why would you ever need 4wd..... Itís not about getting stuck itís about the pulling power when plowing. I will never buy another 2wd it slips so much it simply will not plow when the ground is moist.
This is the reason the 4WD is a must have.
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Old 05-24-2021, 09:52 AM   #36
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From my experience, a 4WD in any size is necessary except in larger field operations. I grew up plowing with a "popping Johnny" Model A pulling a triple disc Deere plow. Hours and hours of pop,pop,pop. My field tractor now is a 140 HP Deere 2WD. The tractor I use everyday is a 75 HP cabbed 4WD with a front end loader with an air ride seat that I can use Bobcat attachments on. I have the front end loader plumbed with hydraulic valves so I can use a grappler bucket. It's used for everything daily. 4WD is a mandatory on a smaller tractor in my opinion. When crossing a ditch and the back wheels start spinning, pushing the 4WD button is like day and night in getting out of a bad situation. During the last ice storm, feeding round bales to the cattle with one on the back and one on the front was no problem even when the ground turned muddy. If I was in your position, describing what you want to do, the 50 HP cabbed tractor would be my choice hands down.
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I think it all comes down to what the OP is trying to accomplish.

Lol for the budget proposed, Id get a little older 80's or 90's model 75-100 hp diesel tractor AND a smaller 50hp and probably still have some left over for implements.
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i work for Noonday Tractor and Auction in Flint. I say 4wd because of the resale value. 2wd tractors are getting hard to sell. If you are looking for a used, i would love to help you.

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I think it all comes down to what the OP is trying to accomplish.

Lol for the budget proposed, Id get a little older 80's or 90's model 75-100 hp diesel tractor AND a smaller 50hp and probably still have some left over for implements.
with all the emissions and DEF, the older ones are bringing more than they cost new
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You will be more productive with 50hp 4c4 than 75hp 2x4 Unless you have implements that require 75hp
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40-50HP 4wd with a loader is all you need.
Cab is just luxury...

I do prefer my 85HP 4wd for pulling an 8í disc doing plots... but it can be done with a smaller disc and less HP

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To me, a lot depends on your soil type.
I'm no tractor expert, but I agree with this. I bought a 4x4 but intended to disengage it for regular shredding. My soil is just too soft in most areas and I found myself having to keep it in 4wd pretty much all the time. I'm thankful I opted for 4wd.
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If it wasn’t for shredding and discing I wouldn’t own a tractor. Skid steers beat the crap out of 4wd tractors.
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If it wasnít for shredding and discing I wouldnít own a tractor. Skid steers beat the crap out of 4wd tractors.
And they beat the crapp out your body too!
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Old 05-24-2021, 11:51 AM   #45
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I canít figure out why a 2wd is even made anymore
Im with this guy. It should be against the law to even be able to put a loader on a 2wd tractor nowdays. LOL.

You will be much happier with a 50hp 4wd with cab.

Extra cab weight will help.

Also fill the back tires with fluid and you will be amazed at the difference
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As the others have said, get 4WD. 5 years ago I bought my Mahindra 5570 (70hp) 4x4 for money within your budget and LOVE it.
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Also- go on any Craigslist and see how many later model low hour used tractors are on there, if their are a lot of 1 brand ( and there are) then stay away from those. Most are knock offs.
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Im with this guy. It should be against the law to even be able to put a loader on a 2wd tractor nowdays. LOL.

You will be much happier with a 50hp 4wd with cab.

Extra cab weight will help.

Also fill the back tires with fluid and you will be amazed at the difference
You do realize that cab will eat up part of your 50 hp, right? A 50 hp with a cab ainít a 50 hp tractor.
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You do realize that cab will eat up part of your 50 hp, right? A 50 hp with a cab ainít a 50 hp tractor.


Explain what about the cab besides AC robs power
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