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I have a pair of Shilen barreled .358 Winchesters that will kill anything on our side of the ocean to about 250 yards or so, one has a 19 inch barrel, and one has a 20 inch. Both are on Remington actions. Magnums need longer barrels. I shoot bullets up to 287 grains, and not far behind the .35 Whelen, but on short actions. Pretty much a reloader's cartridge, though, if that matters.
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Originally posted by RMW View PostAlso want to run a short suppressor
And recoil must be 10ft/lbs or less, readily available factory ammo guaranteed at 1/4 moa or better....
I kid!! I enjoy the challenge and theoretical debates on threads like this.
In seriousness a short/small suppressor will limit cartridge choice especially given the barrel length. So I'm really thinking a short action magnum with a quick burning powder and lighter for caliber bullet might be the only way to make this unicorn happen.
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Originally posted by duckhunter175 View PostAnd recoil must be 10ft/lbs or less, readily available factory ammo guaranteed at 1/4 moa or better....
I kid!! I enjoy the challenge and theoretical debates on threads like this.
In seriousness a short/small suppressor will limit cartridge choice especially given the barrel length. So I'm really thinking a short action magnum with a quick burning powder and lighter for caliber bullet might be the only way to make this unicorn happen.
Definitely the way I’m leaning, just thought there would be a lot more options.
Thanks for all the info!
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You don’t have to over think this. Efficiency and laser like trajectory don’t belong in the same sentence simple as that.
A 308 Win or 7mm-08 Rem are the standout choices in efficiency , there are numerous cartridges that will shoot flatter than those two.
What happen to a persons shooting/hunting skills where a ol ought six was good enough? Seems like folks now days have to have the latest super duper whiz bang round to even think they can go out in the woods and be successful.
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FWIW, I load both of my 338 WSM and 300 WSM with Hodgdon 414 or Win 760 ball powder. Both meter well.
760 seems to be the cleaner burning powder but both have same accuracy and velocities.
Both are considered to be medium burn rate.
Also I do not ever get velocity equal to factory ammo with 150 gr nosler ballistic silvertips. Winchester uses a proprietary powder that I have no clue what it is. I only get around 3100 fps with 150 gr noslers and around 3150 with Barnes 150 TSX.
On the 338 I can push it to 3240 with Barnes 185's but the powder charge is way more and that is OK with a bigger diameter bore.Last edited by muzzlebrake; 01-23-2021, 05:40 PM.
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Originally posted by RMW View PostWhat kind of velocity would you expect a .300WSM with 20 inch barrel shooting 150 nosiler ballistic tips?
Just a SWAG but probably 28-2900 ?? Definitely a solid option but requires a mag bolt face as I’m sure you know. I’d put that above a CM option any day
Sierracharlie out....
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Originally posted by sendit View PostYou don’t have to over think this. Efficiency and laser like trajectory don’t belong in the same sentence simple as that.
A 308 Win or 7mm-08 Rem are the standout choices in efficiency , there are numerous cartridges that will shoot flatter than those two.
What happen to a persons shooting/hunting skills where a ol ought six was good enough? Seems like folks now days have to have the latest super duper whiz bang round to even think they can go out in the woods and be successful.
Not going to have laser like trajectory, need a smaller diameter bullet to get the BC up.
Lots of kids out west kill elk with a .243 Winchester though.Last edited by gatorgrizz27; 01-23-2021, 07:24 PM.
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Originally posted by sierracharlie338 View PostJust a SWAG but probably 28-2900 ?? Definitely a solid option but requires a mag bolt face as I’m sure you know. I’d put that above a CM option any day
Sierracharlie out....
My 20” 308 Rem 700 5R gets 2800 with 175 Bergers so I don’t see the advantage to the WSM if that’s all it will do with a 150.
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Originally posted by Mike D View PostMy 20” 308 Rem 700 5R gets 2800 with 175 Bergers so I don’t see the advantage to the WSM if that’s all it will do with a 150.
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My numbers were a 100% guess so could be wrong there. Personally I’d go 308 or 7-08. I’ve spent a lot of time behind a 20” 308 and know what it is capable of so we are in agreement
Sierracharlie out....
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