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Originally posted by bboswell View PostASSUMING the ones sold as pistols are still legal how does LE distinguish them from ones built at home?
Never mind the average beat cop has no clue how one would obtain a stamp for a SBR or a can in the first place. Matter of fact I worked a shooting where a guy had a suppressed rifle ( sorry chew) and the investigator wanted to file on the guy cause "you can't own that". I found the correct paperwork later. And still had to explain it.
The only other suppressors I've seen had zero numbers engraved on them
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Originally posted by Raider4044 View PostHmmmm, so if they are waiving the $200 tax to register firearms with braces, I wonder if you can swap to a rifle stock after you register it like a normal SBR?
I’ve got a few stripped lowers sitting in my safe I wouldn’t mind SBRing if they are waiving the $200….. I might have to dig around my closet and see if I can find a brace to throw on them temporarily.
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a democrat like a chess player always looks a few moves ahead...
the difference between buying a gun ,doing a background check and an nfa item , is they are allowed to keep registration info on who has the nfa item and more importantly "where" . when you have an nfa item , it has to be kept at the location it is registered and if you move , you have to update it and tell them where it moved to.
by law , only your ffl keeps a copy of your form, and the atf is not supposed to long term document background checks .. so they can't tell who has what or where it goes after the sale. they can't possibly subpoena every ffl dealer in your area to find out if you bought a gun or not. it's not searchable by you.
this however tricks you into willingly sending in all your information and registering what you have....
this also makes it impossible for you to now sell it to anyone without paperwork or even to give it or lend it to anyone or leave it anywhere .
looks to me like they're just trying to use the nfa to click bait you into registering what you got !
i bet the next thing they will try is to make any ar15 part of the nfa too... even rifles... and i'm sure that will be free too .... and when they have final count , then they'll come pick them up , or further regulate what you can and can't do with them.
so you think you gonna save $200 , while you're actually selling away your liberty.
take that brace off ... and run a smooth buffer tube until this nonsense gets overturned in court ... don't fall for it.... this is just step 1 of their plan!
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Now THIS is what a pistol looks like boys and girls.. A model 29-2 44 Mag Dirty Harry Special(Unfired so far).. I need a new insert. It's so old it's brittle..
I'm not sure about those black plastic things that y'all are getting worked up about...
When they start coming after these, and they ain't, is when we have a problem...
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Originally posted by imyomama View Postso you think you gonna save $200 , while you're actually selling away your liberty.
take that brace off ... and run a smooth buffer tube until this nonsense gets overturned in court ... don't fall for it.... this is just step 1 of their plan!
My bet is this hits the courts & the good guys use EPA vs Va for defense against this...DOJ cannot create law.
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Originally posted by PondPopper View PostNow THIS is what a pistol looks like boys and girls.. A model 29-2 44 Mag Dirty Harry Special(Unfired so far).. I need a new insert. It's so old it's brittle..
I'm not sure about those black plastic things that y'all are getting worked up about...
When they start coming after these, and they ain't, is when we have a problem...
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You have a pretty distorted view of what a problem is!
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Originally posted by Kirks55 View PostYep Bump stock ban was overturned.
That said, I'm not sure that the FJB administration necessarily cares or wants a ban to go into effect. They just want to appear trying to do something...
Sadly, I lost my AR pistols when I was out fishing so I don't have to deal with it for now, but once the smoke clears, I'll go out and purchase new ones as I'm pretty certain this is going to end up failing spectacularly in court.
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Originally posted by PondPopper View PostNow THIS is what a pistol looks like boys and girls.. A model 29-2 44 Mag Dirty Harry Special(Unfired so far).. I need a new insert. It's so old it's brittle..
I'm not sure about those black plastic things that y'all are getting worked up about...
When they start coming after these, and they ain't, is when we have a problem...
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in their perfect world if all guns besides revolvers were gone , criminals would use revolvers , and democrats would come after them...
it never stops... and the sooner you realize what side you're on the better...
you're either pro 2a or you're not...
this "you have the right to bear arms .... but NOT THIS ONE "... should be all you need to base your decision on.
because they sure are never going to stop nibbling away at the list that's not acceptable..
just look at AZ ... new magazine ban says 9 is max capacity of a firearm .. well guess what .. when they get to 5 ... your 29-2 will be a high capacity firearm and banned too... and that's when you'll decide to make your stand ?
check mate .. and you never even saw it coming!
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Originally posted by imyomama View Postactually it sounds like free sbr for everyone .. or is it??
a democrat like a chess player always looks a few moves ahead...
the difference between buying a gun ,doing a background check and an nfa item , is they are allowed to keep registration info on who has the nfa item and more importantly "where" . when you have an nfa item , it has to be kept at the location it is registered and if you move , you have to update it and tell them where it moved to.
by law , only your ffl keeps a copy of your form, and the atf is not supposed to long term document background checks .. so they can't tell who has what or where it goes after the sale. they can't possibly subpoena every ffl dealer in your area to find out if you bought a gun or not. it's not searchable by you.
this however tricks you into willingly sending in all your information and registering what you have....
this also makes it impossible for you to now sell it to anyone without paperwork or even to give it or lend it to anyone or leave it anywhere .
looks to me like they're just trying to use the nfa to click bait you into registering what you got !
i bet the next thing they will try is to make any ar15 part of the nfa too... even rifles... and i'm sure that will be free too .... and when they have final count , then they'll come pick them up , or further regulate what you can and can't do with them.
so you think you gonna save $200 , while you're actually selling away your liberty.
take that brace off ... and run a smooth buffer tube until this nonsense gets overturned in court ... don't fall for it.... this is just step 1 of their plan!
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