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Old 04-12-2021, 08:14 AM   #1
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Default Going rate for cattle lease.

I just bought some land in the Hamilton area and want to keep the ag exemption in place.

I live in the DFW area and canít check property daily so I want to lease.

More about the property.

This property is unimproved.
Fence lines hold but could use some work.
Has 2 tanks and no running water.

The previous owner leased to a family friend who was feeding round bales at least once a week.

My question is what is the going rate to lease land for cattle?
Is it determined per acre or per head?

Thank you in advance.
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:20 AM   #2
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How many acres, what's the grass like, how much fence work is actually needed. Do the tanks hold water or do they go dry in the summer?
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:27 AM   #3
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another consideration is the length of the lease. A short term is low value in most cases.
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:28 AM   #4
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You can lease either way (per head or per acre).

Money isn't everything as far as cattle leasing. If you can, take you time. Find a good cattle guy that's willing to keep up fences well, not over graze etc. If he's a local with multiple leases near you then make sure he understands you plan to keep him on for years and years under the right conditions.

My guy helps me with all sorts of things. Paid 25% of the cost of a new solar well set-up. Helps me watch the place when I'm not around. And other small things like loaning tools. It can be a win win with the right person.
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:28 AM   #5
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If he's having to feed round bales every week of the year. It would have to be free, or he has it way over stocked
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:32 AM   #6
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We lease part of ours for $10 per head per month... That includes the guying leasing keeping up with the mowing, spraying, keeping up fences.

I also know a guy that leases his land for $20 per head per month but the landowner keeps up with the mowing, spraying, fence work etc
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:10 AM   #7
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We lease part of ours for $10 per head per month... That includes the guying leasing keeping up with the mowing, spraying, keeping up fences.

I also know a guy that leases his land for $20 per head per month but the landowner keeps up with the mowing, spraying, fence work etc
Wow. I don't know how a rancher could make much money at $20 per head per month.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:12 AM   #8
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Find some one to fix all the fences, maintain roads, shred weeds, and run only a few cows. Then take cows out during hunting season. Charge him for what the taxes are.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:13 AM   #9
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Wow. I don't know how a rancher could make much money at $20 per head per month.
No kidding. That's crazy.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:16 AM   #10
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based on your situation i would recommend just putting it in wildlife management if you can. we have 235 acres and dealing with the cows and fences and everything else that goes with it just wasn't worth it. we got the cattle off last year, transitioned to wildlife management to maintain our tax exemption and now have a guy bailing twice per year.
our pastures aren't overgrazed and we don't have the liability of cows getting out onto the street nor do we have to worry about who is on our property. if you have a current ag exemption then you can easily apply for wildlife management and it's very easy.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:19 AM   #11
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The tax exemption is worth it alone. Maybe he ain't making money, but he'll be saving it.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:25 AM   #12
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How many acres, what's the grass like, how much fence work is actually needed. Do the tanks hold water or do they go dry in the summer?
Roughly 250 acres
Grass is fair... but there is a lot of brush etc...
Tanks hold water all year
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:37 AM   #13
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Send me a message. I live over in Comanche and looking for a place to keep some roping calves

Any working pens out there?

I would like to come look at it
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:40 AM   #14
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could you get some bee hives?
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:41 AM   #15
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Depending on the place. $15-$25 an acre per year.
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Old 04-12-2021, 09:44 AM   #16
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If it was under AG exemption just file for Wildlife Exemption. Place feeders, trail cams and show your taking care of the wildlife. Mine came out cheaper than AG.

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Old 04-12-2021, 10:25 AM   #17
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Wow. I don't know how a rancher could make much money at $20 per head per month.
The guy that is leasing it is making X amount per head a month to take care of the cows from a bigger ranch. Hes not making as much on that piece of land as his other lease spots but he gets his monthly price no matter what the cattle market does.

At least thats the way I understood it when it was explained to me.
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Old 04-12-2021, 10:41 AM   #18
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The guy that is leasing it is making X amount per head a month to take care of the cows from a bigger ranch. Hes not making as much on that piece of land as his other lease spots but he gets his monthly price no matter what the cattle market does.

At least thats the way I understood it when it was explained to me.
Yep this is known as custom grazing.
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:05 AM   #19
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I have 40 acres in Anderson Co. that I lease for $1,000.00 per year for grazing...good fences, plenty of Coastal and Bahia, 2 stock tanks, good pipe corral/working pen,
he makes any needed fence repairs, keeps it mowed, fertilized and sprayed for weeds.
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:31 AM   #20
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Canít help on price per acre for the area, but few land owners want to spend large amounts of money for improvements. If we pay for new fence or plant coastal itís put in contract that it's prorated for 20yrs that we are reimbursed the cost if we loose the lease for any reason within that time. Works well for both parties. I assume your land is for recreation and hunting, Iíd find a neighbor and have in the contract that the cows come off in September and back on in January so you donít have to deal with cows through the season, he gets grazing and you keep the exemption.
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:41 AM   #21
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If he's having to feed round bales every week of the year. It would have to be free, or he has it way over stocked
Agree!
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:49 AM   #22
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If it was under AG exemption just file for Wildlife Exemption. Place feeders, trail cams and show your taking care of the wildlife. Mine came out cheaper than AG.
This here, win-win
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:53 PM   #23
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We have 4 grass leases in Parker county and dont pay for any of them, we trade it out in work. Fence/road work, gates etc. Rancher is getting up there in age so I bought a new automatic gate opener and installed it for him.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:28 PM   #24
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In Mills county for native grass places the leases run around 10 dollars per acre. Some are higher depending on the grass.
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Old 04-12-2021, 03:10 PM   #25
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If it was under AG exemption just file for Wildlife Exemption. Place feeders, trail cams and show your taking care of the wildlife. Mine came out cheaper than AG.
x2!

and be done with it. Musta already been in AG tho
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Old 04-12-2021, 03:23 PM   #26
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Timely thread for me... just bought a 70 acre place just south of Brenham and it had cows on it when I bought it. I told him to keep them there so I can have the Ag exemption.
From the looks of the pastures, nothing has been done in years. Speaking with the guy that has the cattle, he never met the previous owners. the pastures are not in good shape, so it sounds like I need to have another meeting with the cattle guy about expectations or buy myself a few head of cattle.
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Old 04-12-2021, 03:40 PM   #27
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Not trying to make you feel bad.

But if previous guy had to feed round bales every week...
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Old 04-12-2021, 03:43 PM   #28
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I think you can Google Ag Lease Rates in Texas. There is a bi-annual report by region. Actually, Tiffany Lashmet may have it on her Ag Law Blog. Google that.
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Old 04-12-2021, 03:55 PM   #29
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Don't even do that, just convert the ag exemption over to wildlife exemption and you will be much happier! Same exemptions, and then you don't worry about keeping cattle on it.
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Old 04-12-2021, 06:41 PM   #30
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Can you still run cattle occasionally with the wildlife exemption?
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Old 04-12-2021, 07:59 PM   #31
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Timely thread for me... just bought a 70 acre place just south of Brenham and it had cows on it when I bought it. I told him to keep them there so I can have the Ag exemption.
From the looks of the pastures, nothing has been done in years. Speaking with the guy that has the cattle, he never met the previous owners. the pastures are not in good shape, so it sounds like I need to have another meeting with the cattle guy about expectations or buy myself a few head of cattle.
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:31 PM   #32
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Can you still run cattle occasionally with the wildlife exemption?
Yes. Good rotational grazing can be a excellent wildlife tool.
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