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Old 03-03-2021, 07:54 AM   #1
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Default Dog training.....opportunity?

With the recent passing of my most recent Police K9 and the departments decision to not replace her and send me back to patrol I'm exploring the possibility of a new line of work for a few years until retirement.

I've had and trained dogs all of my life- mostly labs and lab mixes.

I've been in LE K9 with dual purpose dogs the past 13+ years and had three K9 partners. Training LE K9 is like training the highest drive dogs there are for 8 or 9 different things, all at once. We train about 300 hours a year in building searches, narcotics, obedience, area search, tracking, apprehension, evidence recovery, etc. Losing my last dog was heartbreaking because I always loved a good tracking dog. When I selected her it was based on traits and characteristics I was looking for specifically for a tracking dog. When she died, at 3 (lymphoma cancer), she could track a man across a Sears parking lot. If you are knowledgeable about tracking, that is something almost unheard of LE. She was by far the best man tracker I had seen in my years in LE.

I understand dog training is usually more about training the owners, and I can deal with that.

I'm just testing out the theory now, and looking for people in the north DFW area who might be interested in some advice, help, with problems- no charge to the first few- then if it seems like something I want to pursue maybe start then. Feel free to PM for schedules, and always open to phone conversations with advice if needed.

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Old 03-03-2021, 07:57 AM   #2
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So sorry to hear about your pup.

Best of luck with the new gig!
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:17 AM   #3
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I've really been thinking about getting into SAR in a few years after I retire but I'm about a year away from having my new property fenced and ready for a dog. When I'm ready I may give you a shout for some help. Thanks and good luck !
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:37 AM   #4
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I've really been thinking about getting into SAR in a few years after I retire but I'm about a year away from having my new property fenced and ready for a dog. When I'm ready I may give you a shout for some help. Thanks and good luck !
Call me at least a month or so BEFORE you start looking. Very specific traits to look for. If you get your heart set on a dog BEFORE you know those traits you may end up with a so-so dog. Took me three to get it right!
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:42 AM   #5
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What kind of training? Have a walker treeing coon hound mix that has some annoying tendencies and I bet could use some training.
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:30 AM   #6
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With your experience, you could really build a solid business. It sounds like a strong opportunity, particularly in the large metro area, lots of potential customers with money. Go for it!
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:45 AM   #7
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Man I wish you GREAT SUCCESS!! I'd love to have those kind of training skills! I've trained retrievers for many years and thoroughly enjoy it. I could see myself doing something like that professionally in my next (retired) life. Training LE dogs would be top of the line far as I'm concerned!! One thing I don't know if you have considered, but a corollary to training LE dogs could also be training dogs for personal protection. With your background and skill set along with your years of experience and probable contacts, I bet you could build a heck of a client base and business!!

BEST OF LUCK sir!!
And reading your thread about losing your partner was a heartbreaker for me to read. Sure sorry about that!
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:53 AM   #8
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There is company down this way that trains, odor and protection dogs. They work with our K9s guys often for extra work and rookie dogs/handlers
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Old 03-03-2021, 03:55 PM   #9
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Wish you were in SA. Have a 7 month old lab who can use more training. Wish you the best of luck!

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Old 03-03-2021, 06:39 PM   #10
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There is a need for people with your knowledge and background to do training for AKC and NASCW competitors.

https://www.nacsw.net/

Go to a trial and you’ll see 50+ people that need your help. Many of which are willing to pay for it. In addition to training you can judge trials after being certified.

We run our Vizslas in 10+ trials a year and pay for a professional trainer with a similar background to yours.
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Old 03-03-2021, 06:43 PM   #11
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Yes. I would follow your heart and start helping people train their dogs for $
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Old 03-03-2021, 07:05 PM   #12
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Sorry to hear of the loss of your K9 partner and that the department does not see the value in replacing her. Those dogs are amazing in their ability to help with the bad guys and also can save the life of a young child, officer, or other civilian. Good luck to you. Be sure to preserve your retirement.

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Old 03-04-2021, 08:28 AM   #13
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sorry for the loss of your dog. They get to be family.

I'm on my fifth Malingator, had a jam up female as a working K-9 when I was a GW. Latest is a 14 month old male Malingator who is a full handful. He is very smart and super hardheaded. I turned 70 last month and am too old to fight or run so I am training current dog for protection work.

I could leave my truck unlocked with the windows down in downtown Dallas and NO ONE would bother it with Chief inside. He is VERY protective of whats is his and he has the title on the truck. LOL
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Old 03-04-2021, 09:47 AM   #14
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There is a need for people with your knowledge and background to do training for AKC and NASCW competitors.

https://www.nacsw.net/

Go to a trial and you’ll see 50+ people that need your help. Many of which are willing to pay for it. In addition to training you can judge trials after being certified.

We run our Vizslas in 10+ trials a year and pay for a professional trainer with a similar background to yours.
Who do you use for trainer, somebody in New Braunfels area?
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:12 AM   #15
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Sorry for your loss. I'd be happy to send my 9 month old cur mix to keep you company She's more than I can handle right now at 65lbs of extreme drive lap dog. We did 6 weeks of "clicker" training that didn't help at all. I'm putting 1 to 2 hours a day into her but there is nothing I can do to get her tired. She wakes up like she's on speed and it's that way til 10pm
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Old 03-04-2021, 10:22 AM   #16
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Sorry to hear about your partner and I wish you the best as you move on. I don't blame you at all for not wanting to go back on patrol for your last few years after working K-9 for that long.
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Old 03-05-2021, 12:11 PM   #17
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Thanks to all of you for your posts, condolences, and suggestions. Specifics below for a few. Thanks for the PM suggestions, also.

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What kind of training? Have a walker treeing coon hound mix that has some annoying tendencies and I bet could use some training.
Great talking to you Scott. Call me back with any additional questions. Would love to come help out if I can.

[quote=SaltwaterSlick;15503409]Man I wish you GREAT SUCCESS!! I'd love to have those kind of training skills! I've trained retrievers for many years and thoroughly enjoy it. I could see myself doing something like that professionally in my next (retired) life. Training LE dogs would be top of the line far as I'm concerned!! One thing I don't know if you have considered, but a corollary to training LE dogs could also be training dogs for personal protection. With your background and skill set along with your years of experience and probable contacts, I bet you could build a heck of a client base and business!!

Getting a little old for ground up training of protection/bite dogs. Can still do it, but can't imagine the day after "catching" dogs for several hours. Dope work, no problem- bite dogs in a bite suit for a couple hours a day- nah. I'll instruct if you put the suit on!!!

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There is company down this way that trains, odor and protection dogs. They work with our K9s guys often for extra work and rookie dogs/handlers
Thanks, but a bit far. Have got a couple options up here.

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Wish you were in SA. Have a 7 month old lab who can use more training. Wish you the best of luck!


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Feel free to PM me. We can sure talk and maybe I can give you some advice. Family in San Antonio, but probably won't get down there for the next few months.


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FlyBy

Sorry to hear of the loss of your K9 partner and that the department does not see the value in replacing her. Those dogs are amazing in their ability to help with the bad guys and also can save the life of a young child, officer, or other civilian. Good luck to you. Be sure to preserve your retirement.

Dave
Thanks. My partner that just passed saved the life of a criminal that got shot during a dope deal. Bad guy had warrants and ran to avoid us. She found him a couple hours later unconscious from blood loss hiding in a wooded area.

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sorry for the loss of your dog. They get to be family.

I'm on my fifth Malingator, had a jam up female as a working K-9 when I was a GW. Latest is a 14 month old male Malingator who is a full handful. He is very smart and super hardheaded. I turned 70 last month and am too old to fight or run so I am training current dog for protection work.

I could leave my truck unlocked with the windows down in downtown Dallas and NO ONE would bother it with Chief inside. He is VERY protective of whats is his and he has the title on the truck. LOL
Two shepherds and one Mal here (retired Mal still here). Sorry you had to deal with five of those *******s!!!

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Sorry for your loss. I'd be happy to send my 9 month old cur mix to keep you company She's more than I can handle right now at 65lbs of extreme drive lap dog. We did 6 weeks of "clicker" training that didn't help at all. I'm putting 1 to 2 hours a day into her but there is nothing I can do to get her tired. She wakes up like she's on speed and it's that way til 10pm
Xanax?
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