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Old 02-20-2021, 05:51 PM   #1
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Default What gun/caliber for a <100yd varmint gun?

I'm looking for something to get rid of the squirrels and grackles at my backyard feeder. Feeder is right at 100 yards. I have plenty of 5.56 on up, but i'm looking for something a little cheaper and quieter. .22lr? .22mag? .17hmr? Maybe even one of those high powered air rifles?
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Old 02-20-2021, 05:56 PM   #2
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.17hmr sounds like the ticket. But really any of those you listed would be fine.

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Old 02-20-2021, 06:02 PM   #3
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I’ve got an Alexander Arms 17hmr AR for the purpose you describe.
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:03 PM   #4
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17 hmr
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:03 PM   #5
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17hmr no doubt
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:06 PM   #6
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22 shorts.
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:16 PM   #7
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For the mission you proposed, I would give the nod toward the .17hrm.


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Old 02-20-2021, 06:16 PM   #8
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Suppressed 40-60gr 22LR
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:21 PM   #9
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Good old .22 long rifle. In an accurate rifle and sighted in for the distance, will be deadly.
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:25 PM   #10
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.22 woulf fit the bill, but 17hmr sure is sexy ❤️
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:30 PM   #11
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I know it’s been mentioned already but 17hmr for sure.
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:35 PM   #12
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17 would be easy. 22lr being slower might be more fun?
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:41 PM   #13
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:48 PM   #14
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.204 ruger,,, wont leave anything to have to pick up!

any of the listed ones should work well, 22 lr would be the most fun,
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Old 02-20-2021, 07:14 PM   #15
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Airforce Texan .257

It’s a pcp air rifle and ammo can be found easier for it then some of the others mentioned. Initial cost is high but long term it’s cheaper and more fun. You can suppress it without the hassle of the paperwork.

My .257 Texan shoots quarter size groups at 100 yds. Plus you can take other animals with it.

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Old 02-20-2021, 07:27 PM   #16
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I like the ol' 22 mag
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Old 02-20-2021, 08:10 PM   #17
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22 long rifle with a mil dot scope is the way to go. Kill many of hog with that combo. Im confident out to about 130 yards easy with my cz 22 lr

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Old 02-20-2021, 10:18 PM   #18
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I think grackles are protected so my vote is .223,.204 or 22-250 so it blows them everywhere and leaves little evidence that there was one ever there.

But if I was just shooting squirrels probably a .17WSM.
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Old 02-20-2021, 10:36 PM   #19
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Good old .22 long rifle. In an accurate rifle and sighted in for the distance, will be deadly.
Yes sir. At 100 yards if you can't hit it with a 22 you might as well use a 50 cal. & scare it to death.

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Old 02-20-2021, 11:29 PM   #20
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I was in the 17hmr camp until I realized you must not have a 22lr.

Every person needs a .22. 100 yards is easily doable. Just don't skimp on scopes.

22s became my favorite cal when Obama was elected and still are for normal plinking/shooting.
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:02 AM   #21
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Ruger precision 22lr with a 6x42swfa!! I’m amazed what this little setup does. I shoot subsonics to 100.
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Old 02-21-2021, 05:27 AM   #22
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Any rimfire will do
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:46 AM   #23
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I vote for the 17HMR, perfect ticket for the job.

If noise is an issue and you're not suppressed, go with 22LR Subs but you're lobbing them out there at 100 yards. They are very quiet though.
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:49 AM   #24
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In the Great Ammo Shortage of 2020/2021, I'd probably just stick with 22LR. 17HMR isn't cheap for popping the little brown heathens.
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6.5 Grendel. Nuff said.
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Old 02-21-2021, 03:45 PM   #26
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I think grackles are protected so my vote is .223,.204 or 22-250 so it blows them everywhere and leaves little evidence that there was one ever there.

But if I was just shooting squirrels probably a .17WSM.
Iíve shot hundreds if not thousands of grackles with the Fed GW...
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Old 02-21-2021, 03:50 PM   #27
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:07 PM   #28
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:29 PM   #29
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I’ve shot hundreds if not thousands of grackles with the Fed GW...
Well yeah he is the law. That's how a lot of them are. I've heard of game wardens doing stuff they'd give people a ticket for a lot.

Just buy a few cats and they will get rid of the grackles. I used to feed my cats birds all the time. Good times.

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Old 02-21-2021, 04:38 PM   #30
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Grackles are NOT protected, just like sparrows, starlings, and pigeons

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Old 02-21-2021, 05:18 PM   #31
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Love my .17 hmr, and I’ve seen it on the shelves several times when nothing else is there for about $12-13 per 50.
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Old 02-21-2021, 06:46 PM   #32
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I was in the 17hmr camp until I realized you must not have a 22lr.
Youíre right. I have a 22lr pistol, but not a rifle. I am kind of leaning that way.

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I vote for the 17HMR, perfect ticket for the job.

If noise is an issue and you're not suppressed, go with 22LR Subs but you're lobbing them out there at 100 yards. They are very quiet though.
Not sure Iíd run subs at 100. I think supers through a can would be quiet enough for me.
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Old 02-21-2021, 06:56 PM   #33
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Well yeah he is the law. That's how a lot of them are. I've heard of game wardens doing stuff they'd give people a ticket for a lot.

Just buy a few cats and they will get rid of the grackles. I used to feed my cats birds all the time. Good times.
Some of the best GW's & other various LEO started off as outstanding hunting bandits / hooligans...trust me, I know.

We would get calls from farmers to help with depredation & shoot everything not protected attacking fields...sometimes we will just drive around farm land & snipe them with 22's for giggles. Not enough cats around to stop the Rats with wings.
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Old 02-21-2021, 07:32 PM   #34
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I think you may have to get a depredation tag or something. I looked at the rules and it said you can shoot them if they're being a nuisance or destroying crops. Which leaves me with one question.....when are grackles not being a nuisance? It may not have said those exact words but the rule book says something to that effect. They're not protected but kind of? I really don't get it myself but that's the way I understand it.

Believe it or not I've actually seen a grackle kill a smaller bird by pecking it on the head with its sharp beak. Those suckers are not good birds.

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Old 02-21-2021, 07:33 PM   #35
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Some of the best GW's & other various LEO started off as outstanding hunting bandits / hooligans...trust me, I know.

We would get calls from farmers to help with depredation & shoot everything not protected attacking fields...sometimes we will just drive around farm land & snipe them with 22's for giggles. Not enough cats around to stop the Rats with wings.
Sounds like a prairie dog shoot kinda. That's fun!
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Old 02-21-2021, 08:20 PM   #36
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223 so when you want to shoot something bigger/farther you can.
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Old 02-21-2021, 09:19 PM   #38
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.17 HMR or .22 mag. .17 is faster and flat. All good, depends on cost of ammo.
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:39 PM   #39
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Ruger precision 22lr with a 6x42swfa!! Iím amazed what this little setup does. I shoot subsonics to 100.
Got one of these coming soon, found a case of 1600 federal 36 grain cphp I bought for 40 bucks or something a couple Black Fridays ago and forgot about, hope they shoot okay.
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:52 PM   #40
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I have not seen a mention for the 17 hornet. So there ya go!
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Old 02-22-2021, 02:59 AM   #41
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That sounds like the perfect job fo the 6.5 Creedmoor!!
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Old 02-22-2021, 07:18 AM   #42
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I have not seen a mention for the 17 hornet. So there ya go!
17hornet is sweet. But for grackles and such is the issue I hardly shoot rabbits just to save my rnds for bobcats tho.
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Youíre right. I have a 22lr pistol, but not a rifle. I am kind of leaning that way.



Not sure Iíd run subs at 100. I think supers through a can would be quiet enough for me.
In my experience most quality accurate 22 ammo is subsonic. Itís definitely more consistent at least.
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Old 02-22-2021, 10:04 AM   #44
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Accuracy of 2" or less @ 100 yards isn't nearly as easy with a 22lr as it is with a 17hmr or 17 WSM.
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Old 02-22-2021, 10:14 AM   #45
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out of the box , hands down 17 hmr is the most accurate rim fire at 100 ... 22mag can get you there but more picky on ammo / rifle combo trial and error .. 17 shoot way slicker ballistic tip and it sounds really good with a can .. but due to tiny bore, you might need to clean it every 100 rds or so if your accuracy gets worse .. you can get there with 22lr but variance in distance will be a big factor on impact .. as it drops like a rock ... so look at for sure 3x group size over the 17. unless you shoot a vudoo, then i'm just not talking to you .. lol. after that, you got the hornet or the 204 .. all good calibers but overkill IMHO.

never played with the 17hm2 .. since hrm is all that + a bag of chips... i have a cheap savage that shoot center fire accurate at 100 ... that's what i'd recommend for all the reasons above .. good luck
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17 HMR all day everyday for me.....Love that little round out of a Savage 93R 17 with a bull barrel.




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Old 02-22-2021, 11:39 AM   #47
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i assume if your shooting at grackles at a 100 your putting some **** good glass on whatever caliber you chose!
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Old 02-22-2021, 12:51 PM   #48
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i assume if your shooting at grackles at a 100 your putting some **** good glass on whatever caliber you chose!
As a generalization, I run good glass. Unless it's deliberately a budget build. It helps that I have pretty good pro deals from most manufacturers.
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Old 02-22-2021, 01:46 PM   #49
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I have not seen a mention for the 17 hornet. So there ya go!
This would be my choice for the application if I didn't already have the 17 fireball...
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Has anyone said .22 Hornet? It's easy to load for and would give you a lot more punch.

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