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Old 04-04-2021, 06:22 PM   #1
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Wife and I have been going to Vegas for 30 plus years. So to celebrate our 44th anniversary we planned a 4 day trip.

All I can tell is this ...... do not do it. The place is a total mess.

The hotels are 100% booked to capacity but they do not have the staff in place to handle a full house. Restaurants are short handed so you cannot get into a place even to eat breakfast unless you have a reservation. Lines are out the door to get a cup of coffee. The pools at the hotels are limiting the number of people who can enter so you may be booked in a world class hotel paying world class dollars but you or your family cannot get to the pool. There were families waiting at the pool entrance for several hours in hopes they could just get into the pool - ridiculous for sure

and as a side note - I can afford nice trips. However I do not appreciate getting ripped off. Prices in Vegas are silly. Ten bucks for one Corona - breakfast will run you $50-60 for you and your wife - no thank you. And if you were wondering - they are mask Nazis - when at a bar or restaurant you have to leave your mask on, lower it to take a drink or bite and then put it back on. If you don't then the waiters or managers come let you know.

So my guess it that it only gets worse during the summer months as pent up demand increases. What a waste of money for our trip -

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Old 04-04-2021, 06:27 PM   #2
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Dang man that is not good.

I was reading recently where they are going to require the passport for staying at any of the hotels.


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Old 04-04-2021, 06:28 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info. I was thinking about a trip this summer.
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:29 PM   #4
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I was wondering about this. We actually were thinking of taking the grandkids to Disney World this summer but I wonder if Orlando is in the same boat? I dang sure don’t want to spend good money and have grandchildren sitting around with nothing to do or eat.
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:40 PM   #5
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I was just in Vegas 2 weeks ago and I didn't feel it was totally horrible. Sure you had to wear a mask everywhere, but I saw plenty of folks walking on the gaming floors with no masks smoking their legal blunts.

All of the restaurants we went to would take your "reservation" on the spot and seat you accordingly. None of them had a menu they could hand you, it was all q code scanning.

Never tried to go to a pool, so I cant speak to that. But I cam say the prices are.like an amusement park.
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:41 PM   #6
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This is what we've heard from a buddy that is there all the time. He's the type of guy that never has to wait in line and he still says it's a crap shoot.

We just booked a family trip to Cancun and a lot of reviews for resorts were complaining about a lack of food options. I told the wife if we get over there and I can't eat we're coming back home The one we booked seems to have everything in order though.
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:44 PM   #7
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I was just in Vegas 2 weeks ago and I didn't feel it was totally horrible. Sure you had to wear a mask everywhere, but I saw plenty of folks walking on the gaming floors with no masks smoking their legal blunts.

All of the restaurants we went to would take your "reservation" on the spot and seat you accordingly. None of them had a menu they could hand you, it was all q code scanning.

Never tried to go to a pool, so I cant speak to that. But I cam say the prices are.like an amusement park.
every reservation "on the spot" was a good hour plus wait - mask on the street or gaming areas was not enforced - it was everywhere else. All the cab drivers told us that the people just started showing up in the last two weeks so maybe you had a better experience - for me? No way - waited 20 minutes in line at our elevator on the 18th floor in order to get down to the casino - again ... trust me it is a mess

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Old 04-04-2021, 06:45 PM   #8
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Ouch. You're not the first I've heard this from. Thanks for the heads up... as it seems consistent.
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:52 PM   #9
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I went in September, and it completely sucked. They are mask nazi’s and not the type of crowds you want to be around. I couldn’t wait to leave and will not be back for a long time.
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:59 PM   #10
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Happy Anniversary to you and your wife! 44 years is not common for most in America. I am sure being together you were able to still enjoy the reason for the trip........."make lemonade out of lemons", type of deal! Congrats on a wonderful accomplishment!!!
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Old 04-04-2021, 07:01 PM   #11
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I went in September, and it completely sucked. They are mask naziís and not the type of crowds you want to be around. I couldnít wait to leave and will not be back for a long time.
Your comment is interesting. I did not mention it in my OP but I agree totally - the make up of the crowds that were there are not folks you want to be around - pretty rough for sure. I am afraid my wife and I will never go back - it was that bad
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Old 04-04-2021, 07:10 PM   #12
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Sounds like Port Aransas and even shut down fishing in the Gulf.

Its not gonna take a Covid shot, gonna take buckshot.
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Old 04-04-2021, 07:11 PM   #13
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Happy Anniversary to you and your wife! 44 years is not common for most in America. I am sure being together you were able to still enjoy the reason for the trip........."make lemonade out of lemons", type of deal! Congrats on a wonderful accomplishment!!!
Yes sir thank you - we always make the best of it and we did this time too- just wanted to do a PSA for others so they do not get surprised when they show up to Vegas
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Old 04-04-2021, 07:12 PM   #14
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I agree with the crowds thing. I have never seen so many street urchins wandering around the gaming floors looking like they might try to rob you.

We were there right as march madness was kicking off and it went from not too crowded to pretty packed seemingly overnight.

We never had to wait at an elevator especially in the casino, but we did have to mill about smartly in the line for the high roller even with the no waiting tickets.

I totally agree that this version of Vegas is a shell of what Vegas used to be and I also will probably never go back. I can lose more than enough money within an hour of my house.
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Old 04-04-2021, 07:13 PM   #15
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Was there this past weekend at Mandalay Bay for Volleyball national qualifier. That place was packed. People and players every where. 20 min wait for elevator was normal. Many of the restaurants were closed or they closed very early, like 7pm. We were able to make reservations for the team but we booked at least a day in advance. Yes, the prices are stupid high, like almost $50 per person for burger, fries & soda.

We didn't run into any mask police, not once in the 5 days there did we have an issue. Wear them in public places, take them off when seated to eat or when in the bar. My guess is that different properties have different rules.

I do not gamble, none what so ever so I don't see the draw to go to Vegas. I waste enough money on hunting I don't need to waste more on blackjack and such. Just seem silly to charge $20 for a bottle of water and these high prices for food. I always thought their gig was to get you to blow $$$ on the gaming floor, not at restaurants.

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Old 04-04-2021, 07:32 PM   #16
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Makes it so much better that I’ve never been or wanted to.....
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Old 04-04-2021, 07:38 PM   #17
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Makes it so much better that Iíve never been or wanted to.....
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The op's info will make the decision not to go even easier
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Old 04-04-2021, 07:46 PM   #18
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Dang. Weíre going at the end of the month. This is discouraging to read.


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Old 04-04-2021, 07:48 PM   #19
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We were there 2 weeks ago and it wasn't like this. We made reservations for meals and the casino tables were pretty full. The biggest problem is no one wants to work when they can sit home a draw a check.
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Old 04-04-2021, 08:13 PM   #20
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We were there 2 weeks ago and it wasn't like this. We made reservations for meals and the casino tables were pretty full. The biggest problem is no one wants to work when they can sit home a draw a check.
BINGO. I read an article a couple days ago and in some larger cities (cough cough) a lot of the fast food restaurants are closing real early and many mom and pop places are closing simply due to the fact that they can't get any help. Everyone sits at home and gets a check and unless you are offered a job well over 20 bucks an hr it's not worth it.
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Old 04-04-2021, 08:30 PM   #21
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I generally felt like this regarding Vegas BEFORE Covid...

It will only get worse. I bet most of the staff couldn’t make ends meet and it will take a good long while before it can recover
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Old 04-04-2021, 09:12 PM   #22
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I was there recently for a month for work. Can attest to all of this. If you’re there middle of the week it’s thinned out some. The weekends are full of the folks from states that have strict lockdowns... aka California.
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Old 04-04-2021, 09:12 PM   #23
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Vegas was dead by 1990
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Old 04-04-2021, 09:16 PM   #24
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Vegas was dead by 1990
Stupid. Just Stupid

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Old 04-04-2021, 09:42 PM   #25
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Never had the desire to go there.
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Old 04-04-2021, 10:46 PM   #26
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Never been and ****ed sure don't need to go now.
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Old 04-05-2021, 05:26 AM   #27
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weekends will be PACKED......the TRASH is THICK especially from California and Arizona

avoid CET properties especially the lower end ones (all CET properties are lower end at this point)

there is a chance the airport will run out of rental cars or you will wait in a LONG line

uber/lyft are very hard to get from the airport and the wait for a cab will be long

Wynn has bag checks to get in the hotel and on the weekends Cosmo limits who they allow in the property (hotel guest, player card holders, restaurant reservations) you can expect a line at each to enter

some places will limit who can get on the elevator there may be a line at others there still might be a line, but if social distancing is important to you it might not happen in the elevators

expect to smell a lot of weed on the streets and in the mid range (most CET) and lower properties

scooter "gangs" are all over the place

restaurants can be hit or miss

Fremont will be CRAZY (and trashy) on the weekends, not as bad in the week

pools will be very restrictive at many places

as you get off the strip it is not as bad and Circa seems to have a good pool thing going (and you can use it as a guest of the D or GG)

there are long lines at a lot of strip properties for basic stuff like some massively over priced starbucks

table limits at a lot of places are HIGH even creeping up downtown as well

there are urchins getting into some casinos, but security will generally get on them if you even feign annoyance with them

Vegasmessageforum trip reports can get you more info on specific properties as well as their restaurant forum and the areas forums (strip, off strip, downtown) and the airport and car rental situation

if you are going my advice is read up and plan ahead or you might have a really horrible experience for way too much money
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Old 04-05-2021, 06:17 AM   #28
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This is what we've heard from a buddy that is there all the time. He's the type of guy that never has to wait in line and he still says it's a crap shoot.

We just booked a family trip to Cancun and a lot of reviews for resorts were complaining about a lack of food options. I told the wife if we get over there and I can't eat we're coming back home The one we booked seems to have everything in order though.
i have nephew that is a VIP card holder at the MGM, that card is like your ticket to the front of the line, but right now, not so much... he still gets the best before anyone else, but he would rather go to Cachada ( spelling is more then likely wrong)

we book Cancun for Aug, hope it is as expected, and no issues fingers crossed
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Old 04-05-2021, 06:52 AM   #29
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Screw that place....
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Old 04-05-2021, 07:53 AM   #30
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I forgot about the constant smell of weed on the streets, the elevator, and the casino. If you want to go on a vacation with the constant fear of getting mugged or jumped, go to Vegas!
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Old 04-05-2021, 08:07 AM   #31
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I was wondering about this. We actually were thinking of taking the grandkids to Disney World this summer but I wonder if Orlando is in the same boat? I dang sure donít want to spend good money and have grandchildren sitting around with nothing to do or eat.

Wife and kids went over spring break and had no issues. The park was only letting in 35% of normal capacity. Due to the low gate entrance there were no fast passes for any of the guests. Menus were somewhat limited but they had a good time. Masks were required but they didnít have any issues and it certainly doesnít sound as bad as Vegas does.


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Old 04-05-2021, 08:24 AM   #32
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I agree with the crowds thing. I have never seen so many street urchins wandering around the gaming floors looking like they might try to rob you.

We were there right as march madness was kicking off and it went from not too crowded to pretty packed seemingly overnight.

We never had to wait at an elevator especially in the casino, but we did have to mill about smartly in the line for the high roller even with the no waiting tickets.

I totally agree that this version of Vegas is a shell of what Vegas used to be and I also will probably never go back. I can lose more than enough money within an hour of my house.
Have heard this exactly
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Old 04-05-2021, 08:43 AM   #33
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Wow! I'm sorry your anniversary plans were ruined.

I would not go to Disney - go to Dollyworld - Pigeon Forge instead. Disney supports communism and is partnered with China.
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Old 04-05-2021, 09:34 AM   #34
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Wife and I have been going to Vegas for 30 plus years. So to celebrate our 44th anniversary we planned a 4 day trip.

All I can tell is this ...... do not do it. The place is a total mess.

The hotels are 100% booked to capacity but they do not have the staff in place to handle a full house. Restaurants are short handed so you cannot get into a place even to eat breakfast unless you have a reservation. Lines are out the door to get a cup of coffee. The pools at the hotels are limiting the number of people who can enter so you may be booked in a world class hotel paying world class dollars but you or your family cannot get to the pool. There were families waiting at the pool entrance for several hours in hopes they could just get into the pool - ridiculous for sure

and as a side note - I can afford nice trips. However I do not appreciate getting ripped off. Prices in Vegas are silly. Ten bucks for one Corona - breakfast will run you $50-60 for you and your wife - no thank you. And if you were wondering - they are mask Nazis - when at a bar or restaurant you have to leave your mask on, lower it to take a drink or bite and then put it back on. If you don't then the waiters or managers come let you know.

So my guess it that it only gets worse during the summer months as pent up demand increases. What a waste of money for our trip -

Yep this is exactly what we dealt with back around New Years time totally
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I forgot about the constant smell of weed on the streets, the elevator, and the casino. If you want to go on a vacation with the constant fear of getting mugged or jumped, go to Vegas!
This is no joke. I probably would've failed a drug test just from the walk between Planet Hollywood and Caesars.
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Old 04-05-2021, 09:54 AM   #36
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thats why I go to laughlin way more chill and the machines pay better anyhow
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Old 04-05-2021, 10:40 AM   #37
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I haven't been in 2 years...why all of a sudden all the "rough" crowds in Vegas?
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:08 AM   #38
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Happy Anniversary to you and your wife! 44 years is not common for most in America. I am sure being together you were able to still enjoy the reason for the trip........."make lemonade out of lemons", type of deal! Congrats on a wonderful accomplishment!!!


I echo this statement. 44 years is amazing! Congrats and I wish yíall many more.
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Old 04-05-2021, 11:15 AM   #39
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Welp, the wife and I have a trip to Vegas booked for July. It's one of our good friends milestone birthdays and she wanted to do a Vegas trip. Hopefully some of the craziness dies down by then.
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That's one place I've never had a desire to go.
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:35 PM   #41
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Dang. Weíre going at the end of the month. This is discouraging to read.


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In light of this thread, you should start making your eating reservations now. Hopefully it works out for you guys.
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Old 04-05-2021, 12:58 PM   #42
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sounds like a book I once STARTED to read...Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
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Old 04-05-2021, 01:30 PM   #43
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Was just there this past weekend and things were very normal down on Fremont. We did have to "wear" the mask walking around and in the casinos but other than that we had a great time. Some of the tables were limited to 3 people at a time and others with barriers in place could have more at the table. The casinos were packed and the restaurants down there were open. Got a chance to check out the new Stadium Swim at Cirque...amazing.
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Old 04-05-2021, 01:44 PM   #44
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In light of this thread, you should start making your eating reservations now. Hopefully it works out for you guys.
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Was just there this past weekend and things were very normal down on Fremont. We did have to "wear" the mask walking around and in the casinos but other than that we had a great time. Some of the tables were limited to 3 people at a time and others with barriers in place could have more at the table. The casinos were packed and the restaurants down there were open. Got a chance to check out the new Stadium Swim at Cirque...amazing.
Wife was wanting to go there. Sounds like we definitely should.
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Old 04-05-2021, 01:53 PM   #45
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We took a spur of the moment Vegas trip a couple of weeks ago... yes it was crowded, and yes we ran into some mask nazis...

The trip will be as good as you wanna make it... yes the masks suck, and the smell weed is everywhere... but we had a great time regardless.

Get tickets now for any shows/attractions and any dinner reservations
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:29 PM   #46
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I love going to Vegas. During March Madness is never a good week to go. I think with the world kind of opening back up, people are capitalizing on vacations. A year of nothing leads to the following year/s to be packed. I typically go to Vegas Tues-Thurs or leave early on Friday morning. I gamble VERY little. But love the people watching, tours, shows etc. I have never had a bad time there. I have never found it to be expensive, maybe they are trying to make up for lost revenue? Who knows....
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:36 PM   #47
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Dang.. thanks for the update. We were considering heading there for a boys trip... guess not
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I haven't been in 2 years...why all of a sudden all the "rough" crowds in Vegas?
several things for sure and there are several other theories


1. other states specifically California are not close to the same level of "open" as Nevada and while Arizona is more open Vegas still offers more to do

2. stimulus money

3. unemployment money....specifically in California and even Nevada and in addition to federal dollars.....California has state money they are giving out too and I read elsewhere (did not verify though so could be wrong) that in Nevada Uber/Lyft drivers get unemployment thus many are making enough sitting home and less wear and tear on their cars....if Nevada is paying them to sit you know CA is

4. hotel nights are still CHEAP at some properties even if everything else is creeping up in price......it does not cost a lot to stand around and cause mayhem and you can still eat cheap enough if you just eat fast food especially compared to California prices and if you are methed out or coked up enough you are not eating anyway (or even just drunk and stupid)

5. even if a hotel starts to jack up rates you can still cram 6 or 8 or more in a room and then it is CHEAP

6. some have a theory that because crowds are thinner the trash stands out more.....at this point I think the % of trash is higher no matter what

7. not everyone goes to "high end" (if you define Vegas as high end or parts of it as that) or expensive (Vegas is definitely on the expensive side outside of hotel rooms right now) places to do "high end" things some go there to do the same things that have trashed out where they nest.....all the more so when the places that normally let them run wild and trash things (California) now have an easy excuse to at least come try and break up their trashing of things......because of covid and lock downs
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Ive been to vegas during the NFR and also when its not. Wife and i both agreed we would never go back unless it was during the NFR. Unless its for some unavoidable trip. Even if i have to pay more atleast during the NFR there are my kind of people everywhere.
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If for no other reason, I am out on constant smell of skunk weed. I already hated the constant cig smoke - before that forced you to put your dirty clothes every night in a plastic bag unless you wanted to smell like an ashtray. Smoke either way stops me up and results in a migraine type headache for me.

When did the skunk weed in public become OK ? I thought it was still technically illegal for folks to consume in public in Nevada....is that not correct ?
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