How to cure the ammo issue in just a few months

[Ouch]

I looked at a truck the other day that was $81,250. Y'all quit buying trucks, or at least wait for them to mark them up to $100k.

[Tubby]

When a product price doubles (or higher) and the consumer continues to buy said product, the price won't go down and stay down. They (the manufactures and the retailers) know that people will pay for what they want so why not continue to make a huge profit.

This is ammo we're talking about a a whole. Not a particular brand or model. It's all ammo. This isn't Yeti vs. Rtic vs. Igloo...

Just wait until the minimum wage is increased and the prices will continue to rise...

The retailers are the ones to blame in the price gouging, not the manufactures.

Remember supply/demand?

When was the last time you saw an overall decrease in the price on a product as a whole? I'm not talking about something that's "on sale", an overall decrease in price that stays decreased...

You haven't because it won't happen.

[Tommyh]

History has also shown mfrs that retool for larger facilities and more machinery is they go bankrupt once the boom is over. New gun ownership skyrocketed last year for the same reason ammo is unavailable now.

[RJH1]

When a product price doubles (or higher) and the consumer continues to buy said product, the price won't go down and stay down. They (the manufactures and the retailers) know that people will pay for what they want so why not continue to make a huge profit.

This is ammo we're talking about a a whole. Not a particular brand or model. It's all ammo. This isn't Yeti vs. Rtic vs. Igloo...

Just wait until the minimum wage is increased and the prices will continue to rise...

The retailers are the ones to blame in the price gouging, not the manufactures.

Remember supply/demand?

When was the last time you saw an overall decrease in the price on a product as a whole? I'm not talking about something that's "on sale", an overall decrease in price that stays decreased...

You haven't because it won't happen.

Well there is fuel, tvs, stereos, guns, basically everything in the free market. How much were ARs when Obama got elected? A basic one was 1000 or so, a couple years later after the supply caught up that same gun was five hundred bucks. The market comes down because of competition, always has always will. If products are expensive for a while another company will come in sell things a touch cheaper and the overall price goes down. This process repeats until the market corrects itself. This is been happening for hundreds of years through competition and the free market

[RJH1]

History has also shown mfrs that retool for larger facilities and more machinery is they go bankrupt once the boom is over. New gun ownership skyrocketed last year for the same reason ammo is unavailable now.

Yep, that and for the current market ammo is being held at an artificially low price by the major retailers

[Tommyh]

Yep, that and for the current market ammo is being held at an artificially low price by the major retailers

artificially low based on demand, or actual cost paid to mfrs by distributors is sold at below cost to retailers with the expectation of making money on other items in the store associated with the ammo?

[wellingtontx]

Horrible idea.

Economic classes are available online or at your local community college.

[Hart8]

This.

History should repeat itself given past results. We lived through the clintons/Obama’s & now the Biden’s.

Exactly..Along with Y2K,911,school,movie theater,and church shootings.We'll survive this ammo run,just like all the others.

[Tubby]

Well there is fuel, tvs, stereos, guns, basically everything in the free market. How much were ARs when Obama got elected? A basic one was 1000 or so, a couple years later after the supply caught up that same gun was five hundred bucks. The market comes down because of competition, always has always will. If products are expensive for a while another company will come in sell things a touch cheaper and the overall price goes down. This process repeats until the market corrects itself. This is been happening for hundreds of years through competition and the free market

And how much was a McDonald's hamburger when they first opened?

[okiepighunter]

roger that on the last post!! Everyone stop shooting for two straight months and quit buying ammo at these ridiculous prices and watch all the prices come down

[BrianL]

We all want ammo, here is how to get it as quick as possible:

1 Ammo companies need to install ~100% mark up to wholesalers

2 Wholesalers need to install ~20%markup to retailers

3 Retailers need to install ~20% markup to the customers



These numbers are approximate, but the end result needs to be ~$1 a round for FMJ pistol ammo and $4 a round for basic rifle ammo (could possibly need to be even higher). While i know some people will think this is a horrible idea, select ammo would be available if needed, and in a short time the shelves would be full. The best way to stop a run on a product is to price it out of hoarders/scalpers reach. After the shelves start to fill up, the price can come down to a more reasonable market value. In reality, you are going to have to pay market value for ammo if you need it right now regardless of where you buy it. It would be easier to pay a higher price at Academy or somewhere and get what you need than have to order it from the scalpers on gunbroker, or not be able to get it at all, which is the case for many at this point

I think a one box quota would be a good way for supply to return to normal, or higher prices at all locations to reduce panic buying. There is plenty of ammo out there, just not at what most are willing to pay. I would rather see shelves full of high dollar ammo, than empty shelves where cheaper ammo used to be.

[RiverRat1]

We have seen this self correct several times since Obama took office.

Brainstorm a while. When were the shortages? How long did each one last? How long between each shortage?

I'm pretty sure the time between these panic ammo/gun buys is shorter each time and lasts longer each time.

Without increasing manufacturing it will only get worse and worse.

[QuackHunter]

Well there’s already plenty of people willing to pay $1 a round for everything. This would only raise prices lol, people would still buy it all and people would still re sell for even higher rape prices. Even on here...


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[RJH1]

I think a one box quota would be a good way for supply to return to normal, or higher prices at all locations to reduce panic buying. There is plenty of ammo out there, just not at what most are willing to pay. I would rather see shelves full of high dollar ammo, than empty shelves where cheaper ammo used to be.

The one box quota is unenforceable. But the last part is correct. High priced available ammo is better than free non existent ammo

[RJH1]

Brainstorm a while. When were the shortages? How long did each one last? How long between each shortage?

I'm pretty sure the time between these panic ammo/gun buys is shorter each time and lasts longer each time.

Without increasing manufacturing it will only get worse and worse.

The problem with increased production for the long run is the 6-year gaps where they're having to basically give ammo away. When Obama was elected primers were fifty bucks a thousand, by the end of the Obama election primers were 20 bucks a thousand. Increasing production just cost the hell out of you for 6 years