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Drycreek3189 · 05-13-2022, 07:58 PM

Got an email today that said that Col. Allen West was being considered to replace Wayne LaPierre as Executive VP of the NRA. I don’t know too much about Col. West but it’s my belief that almost anyone would be better than LaPierre. What say you ?

Mudslinger · 05-13-2022, 07:58 PM

I agree 100%!

Walker · 05-13-2022, 08:02 PM

Is he retiring/resigning? Or being pushed out or being "hoped" out.

AntlerCollector · 05-13-2022, 08:06 PM

Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.

I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.

Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision

ACbob · 05-13-2022, 08:15 PM

Haven't gotten any of my money for a while because of Lil Wayne.

Burnadell · 05-13-2022, 08:18 PM

I agree, Don. He has considered the NRA as his personal piggy bank for a long time!

DUKFVR · 05-13-2022, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnadell

I agree, Don. He has considered the NRA as his personal piggy bank for a long time!

Yep! No money for nra till they get rid of Wayne. Don't believe west is the person either. He is bouncing around everywhere trying to win something.

Drycreek3189 · 05-13-2022, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.

I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.

Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision

The decision is with the board, not the members.

tdwinklr · 05-13-2022, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.

I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.

Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision

kinda agree here, LaPierre been in there waaaay too long, and I haven't seen much benefit from him.
I just don't know anything much about West.

Any other candidates to seriously consider?

AntlerCollector · 05-13-2022, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189

The decision is with the board, not the members.

Yes, but the members can still influence the decisions “if” enough stand up to the board and let their voices be heard.

100%TtId · 05-13-2022, 08:36 PM

Should have been done two years ago.

DUKFVR · 05-13-2022, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 100%TtId

Should have been done two years ago.

Yep! He has cost the nra lots of donation money. Everyone I know has quit sending money's since the story broke on the worthless shyster.

Landrover · 05-13-2022, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DUKFVR

Yep! No money for nra till they get rid of Wayne. Don't believe west is the person either. He is bouncing around everywhere trying to win something.

Yes and yes!!! LaPierre has definitely run amuck for years. West is exuding carpet bagger traits.

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AntlerCollector · 05-13-2022, 08:54 PM

West is a career candidate looking for an office IMO.

The NRA’s problem is more than just LaPierre. They need a house cleaning from the top down. Unfortunately money has caused the corruption, and they have plenty of money.

Drycreek3189 · 05-13-2022, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Yes, but the members can still influence the decisions “if” enough stand up to the board and let their voices be heard.

Maybe you need to suggest someone. You have until May 30 if you want the job.

SabineHunter · 05-13-2022, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnadell

I agree, Don. He has considered the NRA as his personal piggy bank for a long time!

So, has any of this been proven in court or is he guilty by mob mentality because so many of you have been swayed by the "truthful" media? I mean, where did you get the facts? Do you really believe that flaming libtard DA from New York?
I say that everyone should wait for the facts to be fire tested in court, not the say so of some agenda driven, media hogging, lying libtard and her mob. I know, saying this flys directly in the face of what you want to believe but, hey, it's the American way.
Innocent until found guilty.

AntlerCollector · 05-14-2022, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189

The decision is with the board, not the members.

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189

Maybe you need to suggest someone. You have until May 30 if you want the job.

What do you think members should do? Your first reply to me makes it sound like there is nothing NRA members can do to better the current situation. Your second post is just as negative, but with some sarcasm added.

You said yourself you “don’t know too much” about Allen West.

.

grizzman · 05-14-2022, 06:16 AM

I let my membership lapse in January. When WLP is gone I'll consider rejoining.

McPatrickClan · 05-14-2022, 06:33 AM

I'd welcome the change of WLP leaving his role.

tvc184 · 05-14-2022, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SabineHunter

So, has any of this been proven in court or is he guilty by mob mentality because so many of you have been swayed by the "truthful" media? I mean, where did you get the facts? Do you really believe that flaming libtard DA from New York?
I say that everyone should wait for the facts to be fire tested in court, not the say so of some agenda driven, media hogging, lying libtard and her mob. I know, saying this flys directly in the face of what you want to believe but, hey, it's the American way.
Innocent until found guilty.

Why does it have to be proven in court?

Is using company money a crime? I believe that is only if it is without consent. He could live a lavish lifestyle and be completely legal which is likely what is happening. The fat cat executive doesn’t have to be a criminal, just a fat cat.

Bassdeer · 05-14-2022, 07:35 AM

Last time I was a member was 2003, Just a bunch of crooks, and to top it all they file Chapter 11 in 2021.

dbaio1 · 05-14-2022, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.

I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.

Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision

This ^^^™™™

68rustbucket · 05-14-2022, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by grizzman

I let my membership lapse in January. When WLP is gone I'll consider rejoining.

My sentiments also.

WItoTX · 05-14-2022, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.

I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.

Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision

This.

sailor · 05-14-2022, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudslinger

I agree 100%!

I might consider joining again, when Wayne is gone..

S-3 Ranch · 05-14-2022, 11:17 AM

Why would the NRA want Col Allen West, I think he has a criminal history and worked as a corrupt military contractor? Before moving to Texas to reinvent his reputation
Seems like a bad choice

Drycreek3189 · 05-14-2022, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

What do you think members should do? Your first reply to me makes it sound like there is nothing NRA members can do to better the current situation. Your second post is just as negative, but with some sarcasm added.

You said yourself you “don’t know too much” about Allen West.

.

I know about as much as I want to know. It’s immaterial to me who they choose, if anyone. My point was that the board is going to do what they want to do and I don’t care. I’m done with them. So if you or anyone else wants to campaign for a replacement, have at it. I was merely passing along what I read.

tvc184 · 05-14-2022, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by S-3 Ranch

Why would the NRA want Col Allen West, I think he has a criminal history and worked as a corrupt military contractor? Before moving to Texas to reinvent his reputation
Seems like a bad choice

What criminal history would that be?

The improper interrogation of an Iraq prisoner where be was not brought up before a court martial?

treestand · 05-14-2022, 02:22 PM

I volunteered on Allen West’s campaign for Texas Governor. He is a good man who lost to Abbot because of Abbot’s war chest. I think he would do wonders for the NRA. I’m a NRA life member who has been saying LaPierre needs replaced for many years. Let’s hope it happens.

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Bucknaked · 05-14-2022, 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=AntlerCollector;16218630]”West is a career candidate looking for an office”

Yes Sir! I totally agree!

Wayne needs to go for sure and he needs to be investigated!

ACbob · 05-14-2022, 03:52 PM

West also flamed the current board pretty well. Doubt they'll reward that.

Burnadell · 05-14-2022, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189

I know about as much as I want to know. It’s immaterial to me who they choose, if anyone. My point was that the board is going to do what they want to do and I don’t care. I’m done with them. So if you or anyone else wants to campaign for a replacement, have at it. I was merely passing along what I read.

I agree, Don. I did not renew my membership after LaPierre sent the letter out referring to government officials as jackbooted thugs, trying to sensationalize things to recruit members. He just went overboard to protect "his" income stream.

Landrover · 05-15-2022, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassdeer

Last time I was a member was 2003, Just a bunch of crooks, and to top it all they file Chapter 11 in 2021.

I left during the early 90s and never looked back. The scare tactics and scandals obviously work but just not for me.

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Burnadell · 05-15-2022, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Landrover

I left during the early 90s and never looked back. The scare tactics and scandals obviously work but just not for me.

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Exactly!!!

Rubi513 · 05-15-2022, 02:50 PM

How can someone be a “career candidate” if they had a career that wasn’t politics?

AntlerCollector · 05-15-2022, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubi513

How can someone be a “career candidate” if they had a career that wasn’t politics?

People can have more than one career in their life. Simple as that. Look at West’s political career. He has one.

Rubi513 · 05-15-2022, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

People can have more than one career in their life. Simple as that. Look at West’s political career. He has one.

A short one…
And his other one is quite impressive.

AntlerCollector · 05-15-2022, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubi513

A short one…
And his other one is quite impressive.

His military career was impressive. That has nothing to do with his political career though. I mean, I know a few guys who retired from military service and are prospering in a 2nd career.

What’s the point you’re trying to make?

John McCain had an impressive military career too, but he also had a political career as a Senator for 31 years.

Would you call 31 years as a Senator a career?

Rubi513 · 05-15-2022, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

His military career was impressive. That has nothing to do with his political career though. I mean, I know a few guys who retired from military service and are prospering in a 2nd career.

What’s the point you’re trying to make?

John McCain had an impressive military career too, but he also had a political career as a Senator for 31 years.

Would you call 31 years as a Senator a career?

My question is more, what’s your point you’re trying to make?
You are the one that said he was a career candidate…

AntlerCollector · 05-15-2022, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubi513

My question is more, what’s your point you’re trying to make?
You are the one that said he was a career candidate…

Well that’s a better question than what you asked.

“How can someone be a “career candidate” if they had a career that wasn’t politics?”

I will be happy to explain why that is my opinion.

West served in the US House representing Florida from 2011-2013

He ran for Governor of Texas and lost in the primary in March of this year.

He was the Chair of the Texas Republican Party from 2020-2021

Now he’s apparently wanting to run the NRA.

Again IMO, he’s just looking for a place to land.
I’m not saying it’s necessarily a bad thing. A man’s gotta work. He’s also a motivational speaker and is trying to stay relevant within the Republican Party. That’s why I stated imo he’s a career candidate. He hasn’t stayed anywhere long as a private citizen serving the public.

He may very well make a better VP for the NRA than LaPierre. I don’t know.

Burnadell · 05-15-2022, 07:29 PM

AC, I agree with you. I don’t really have anything against him, and I think he is a conservative and decent guy…just not proven and trying to find someplace in politics to land.

Rubi513 · 05-15-2022, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

He hasn’t stayed anywhere long as a private citizen serving the public.

He may very well make a better VP for the NRA than LaPierre. I don’t know.

20 plus years serving his country…
Yea, I think he’s more than qualified…

AntlerCollector · 05-15-2022, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubi513

20 plus years serving his country…
Yea, I think he’s more than qualified…

“Private citizen”. I’m not talking about his distinguished military career. Wow. This is hard for some of y’all to understand

20 years in the military doesn’t make him “more than qualified” to be the Governor of Texas, or VP of the NRA, or anything else. God bless him for what he did serving in the military. That doesn’t always automatically translate into other aspects of life. I gave John McCain as a perfect example. Wasn’t he the reason we have Obamacare?

Again I’m not saying any of this as a knock against Col West.

AntlerCollector · 05-15-2022, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnadell

AC, I agree with you. I don’t really have anything against him, and I think he is a conservative and decent guy…just not proven and trying to find someplace in politics to land.

Yessir

Rubi513 · 05-15-2022, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

“Private citizen”. I’m not talking about his distinguished military career. Wow. This is hard for some of y’all to understand

20 years in the military doesn’t make him “more than qualified” to be the Governor of Texas, or VP of the NRA, or anything else. God bless him for what he did serving in the military. That doesn’t always automatically translate into other aspects of life. I gave John McCain as a perfect example. Wasn’t he the reason we have Obamacare?

Again I’m not saying any of this as a knock against Col West.

So what would make one qualified?
What made Wayne qualified?
Was Trump qualified?

You were the one calling him a career politician…Even though he isn’t…
What do you have against him?

Drycreek3189 · 05-15-2022, 08:36 PM

AC, you make a valid point, except that Justice Roberts, Bush appointee, is the reason we have Obamacare. That particular buck stopped on his desk. Again, I don’t know how good of an Executive VP West would make, none of us do. We may never know depending on what the board does. I’m a Life Endowment Member, but for the last few years each letter I got from the NRA I sent back in the return mail with a message written on their letter. It stated that they would get no more money from me until LaPierre was gone. I aim to stick with that, and evidently they believed me because I don’t get those solicitations anymore. I gave lots over the years, attended lots of banquets and bought lots of auction items. No more !

AntlerCollector · 05-15-2022, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Drycreek3189

AC, you make a valid point, except that Justice Roberts, Bush appointee, is the reason we have Obamacare. That particular buck stopped on his desk. Again, I don’t know how good of an Executive VP West would make, none of us do. We may never know depending on what the board does. I’m a Life Endowment Member, but for the last few years each letter I got from the NRA I sent back in the return mail with a message written on their letter. It stated that they would get no more money from me until LaPierre was gone. I aim to stick with that, and evidently they believed me because I don’t get those solicitations anymore. I gave lots over the years, attended lots of banquets and bought lots of auction items. No more !

The Obamacare comment was a question. You’re right, it was Justice Roberts. I vaguely remember McCain showing up for a vote that was very unpopular with conservatives. Now that I think about it maybe Trump was in office.

I also haven’t given money to the NRA in about 3 or 4 years now. I too will not as long as Wayne is running the show. I don’t like saying that because the NRA use to be the guardian of our guns rights. I do think they have lost their way and I hope there will be changes for the better coming.

billfromtx · 05-15-2022, 08:54 PM

I won’t send a penny to the NRA again until that crooked Lapierre is gone! He’s a crook.

AntlerCollector · 05-15-2022, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubi513

So what would make one qualified?
What made Wayne qualified?
Was Trump qualified?

You were the one calling him a career politician…Even though he isn’t…
What do you have against him?

I’m done going around in circles with you. I have nothing against Col Allen West. I’ve attended one of his speeches before. He’s a hell of a speaker and best I can tell a good man.

I also never called him a career politician.

I called him a career candidate. He’s never held any office more than two years, but he’s constantly trying to land somewhere.

You’re obviously a fan of his and somehow me telling folks to educate themselves about Col West has rubbed you wrong.

Rubi513 · 05-15-2022, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

I’m done going around in circles with you. I have nothing against Col Allen West. I’ve attended one of his speeches before. He’s a hell of a speaker and best I can tell a good man.

I also never called him a career politician.

I called him a career candidate. He’s never held any office more than two years.

You’re obviously a fan of his and somehow me telling folks to educate themselves about Col West has rubbed you wrong.

Don’t get butt hurt…
Yes, I am guilty of being a fan of those that had a distinguished career in the military.
Just trying to figure out why you don’t think he’s qualified.
Which you have failed to explain…

05-13-2022, 07:58 PM	#1
Drycreek3189 Pope & Young Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Troup Hunt In: Cherokee, Rusk Counties	Replace LaPierre as VP Got an email today that said that Col. Allen West was being considered to replace Wayne LaPierre as Executive VP of the NRA. I don’t know too much about Col. West but it’s my belief that almost anyone would be better than LaPierre. What say you ?

05-14-2022, 11:17 AM	#26
S-3 Ranch Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Sisterdale Hunt In: Sisterdale, Barnhart , presidio , tiviolie	Why would the NRA want Col Allen West, I think he has a criminal history and worked as a corrupt military contractor? Before moving to Texas to reinvent his reputation Seems like a bad choice Last edited by S-3 Ranch; 05-14-2022 at 11:27 AM.

05-15-2022, 08:36 PM	#46
Drycreek3189 Pope & Young Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Troup Hunt In: Cherokee, Rusk Counties	AC, you make a valid point, except that Justice Roberts, Bush appointee, is the reason we have Obamacare. That particular buck stopped on his desk. Again, I don’t know how good of an Executive VP West would make, none of us do. We may never know depending on what the board does. I’m a Life Endowment Member, but for the last few years each letter I got from the NRA I sent back in the return mail with a message written on their letter. It stated that they would get no more money from me until LaPierre was gone. I aim to stick with that, and evidently they believed me because I don’t get those solicitations anymore. I gave lots over the years, attended lots of banquets and bought lots of auction items. No more ! Last edited by Drycreek3189; 05-15-2022 at 08:38 PM.

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05-13-2022, 07:58 PM	#2
Mudslinger Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rogers TX Hunt In: Kent/Stonewall Counties, Limpopo South Africa	I agree 100%!

05-13-2022, 08:02 PM	#3
Walker Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio	Is he retiring/resigning? Or being pushed out or being "hoped" out.

05-13-2022, 08:06 PM	#4
AntlerCollector Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2014 Hunt In: Votaw, Del Rio, Eldorado, Bon Wier	Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous. Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are. I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now. Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision

05-13-2022, 08:15 PM	#5
ACbob Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Rockport, TX Hunt In: Sabinal & Victoria Cnty	Haven't gotten any of my money for a while because of Lil Wayne.

05-13-2022, 08:18 PM	#6
Burnadell Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: White Oak Hunt In: Bee County	I agree, Don. He has considered the NRA as his personal piggy bank for a long time!

05-13-2022, 08:36 PM	#11
100%TtId Ten Point Join Date: Apr 2009	Should have been done two years ago.

05-13-2022, 08:54 PM	#14
AntlerCollector Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2014 Hunt In: Votaw, Del Rio, Eldorado, Bon Wier	West is a career candidate looking for an office IMO. The NRA’s problem is more than just LaPierre. They need a house cleaning from the top down. Unfortunately money has caused the corruption, and they have plenty of money.

05-14-2022, 06:16 AM	#18
grizzman Pope & Young Join Date: May 2010 Location: Frisco Hunt In: Texas and Arkansas	I let my membership lapse in January. When WLP is gone I'll consider rejoining.

05-14-2022, 06:33 AM	#19
McPatrickClan Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, TX	I'd welcome the change of WLP leaving his role.

05-14-2022, 07:35 AM	#21
Bassdeer Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: The Colony	Last time I was a member was 2003, Just a bunch of crooks, and to top it all they file Chapter 11 in 2021.

05-14-2022, 02:22 PM	#29
treestand Ten Point Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Houston Hunt In: Junction Texas	I volunteered on Allen West’s campaign for Texas Governor. He is a good man who lost to Abbot because of Abbot’s war chest. I think he would do wonders for the NRA. I’m a NRA life member who has been saying LaPierre needs replaced for many years. Let’s hope it happens. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-14-2022, 02:35 PM	#30
Bucknaked Ten Point Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Hallettsville Hunt In: Lavaca , Edwards & Gillespie counties	[QUOTE=AntlerCollector;16218630]”West is a career candidate looking for an office” Yes Sir! I totally agree! Wayne needs to go for sure and he needs to be investigated!

05-14-2022, 03:52 PM	#31
ACbob Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Rockport, TX Hunt In: Sabinal & Victoria Cnty	West also flamed the current board pretty well. Doubt they'll reward that.

05-15-2022, 02:50 PM	#35
Rubi513 Pope & Young Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centerville Hunt In: Walker County	How can someone be a “career candidate” if they had a career that wasn’t politics?

05-15-2022, 07:29 PM	#41
Burnadell Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: White Oak Hunt In: Bee County	AC, I agree with you. I don’t really have anything against him, and I think he is a conservative and decent guy…just not proven and trying to find someplace in politics to land.

05-15-2022, 08:54 PM	#48
billfromtx Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nueces County	I won’t send a penny to the NRA again until that crooked Lapierre is gone! He’s a crook.