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Old 05-13-2022, 07:58 PM   #1
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Got an email today that said that Col. Allen West was being considered to replace Wayne LaPierre as Executive VP of the NRA. I don’t know too much about Col. West but it’s my belief that almost anyone would be better than LaPierre. What say you ?
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I agree 100%!
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Is he retiring/resigning? Or being pushed out or being "hoped" out.
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Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.


I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.


Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision
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Haven't gotten any of my money for a while because of Lil Wayne.
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I agree, Don. He has considered the NRA as his personal piggy bank for a long time!
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I agree, Don. He has considered the NRA as his personal piggy bank for a long time!
Yep! No money for nra till they get rid of Wayne. Don't believe west is the person either. He is bouncing around everywhere trying to win something.
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Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.


I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.


Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision
The decision is with the board, not the members.
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Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.


I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.


Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision
kinda agree here, LaPierre been in there waaaay too long, and I haven't seen much benefit from him.
I just don't know anything much about West.

Any other candidates to seriously consider?
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The decision is with the board, not the members.


Yes, but the members can still influence the decisions “if” enough stand up to the board and let their voices be heard.
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Should have been done two years ago.
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Should have been done two years ago.
Yep! He has cost the nra lots of donation money. Everyone I know has quit sending money's since the story broke on the worthless shyster.
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Yep! No money for nra till they get rid of Wayne. Don't believe west is the person either. He is bouncing around everywhere trying to win something.
Yes and yes!!! LaPierre has definitely run amuck for years. West is exuding carpet bagger traits.

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West is a career candidate looking for an office IMO.

The NRA’s problem is more than just LaPierre. They need a house cleaning from the top down. Unfortunately money has caused the corruption, and they have plenty of money.
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Yes, but the members can still influence the decisions “if” enough stand up to the board and let their voices be heard.
Maybe you need to suggest someone. You have until May 30 if you want the job.
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I agree, Don. He has considered the NRA as his personal piggy bank for a long time!
So, has any of this been proven in court or is he guilty by mob mentality because so many of you have been swayed by the "truthful" media? I mean, where did you get the facts? Do you really believe that flaming libtard DA from New York?
I say that everyone should wait for the facts to be fire tested in court, not the say so of some agenda driven, media hogging, lying libtard and her mob. I know, saying this flys directly in the face of what you want to believe but, hey, it's the American way.
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Maybe you need to suggest someone. You have until May 30 if you want the job.


What do you think members should do? Your first reply to me makes it sound like there is nothing NRA members can do to better the current situation. Your second post is just as negative, but with some sarcasm added.

You said yourself you “don’t know too much” about Allen West.



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I let my membership lapse in January. When WLP is gone I'll consider rejoining.
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I'd welcome the change of WLP leaving his role.
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So, has any of this been proven in court or is he guilty by mob mentality because so many of you have been swayed by the "truthful" media? I mean, where did you get the facts? Do you really believe that flaming libtard DA from New York?
I say that everyone should wait for the facts to be fire tested in court, not the say so of some agenda driven, media hogging, lying libtard and her mob. I know, saying this flys directly in the face of what you want to believe but, hey, it's the American way.
Innocent until found guilty.
Why does it have to be proven in court?

Is using company money a crime? I believe that is only if it is without consent. He could live a lavish lifestyle and be completely legal which is likely what is happening. The fat cat executive doesn’t have to be a criminal, just a fat cat.
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Last time I was a member was 2003, Just a bunch of crooks, and to top it all they file Chapter 11 in 2021.
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Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.


I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.


Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision
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My sentiments also.
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Saying almost anyone would be better is dangerous.

Lots of folks thought almost anyone would be better than Trump and look where we are.


I’m not a fan of LaPierre at all. But a vote for some guy just as a vote against another has got our Country where it is now.


Educate yourself on Col Allen West and make an informed decision
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I agree 100%!
I might consider joining again, when Wayne is gone..
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Why would the NRA want Col Allen West, I think he has a criminal history and worked as a corrupt military contractor? Before moving to Texas to reinvent his reputation
Seems like a bad choice

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What do you think members should do? Your first reply to me makes it sound like there is nothing NRA members can do to better the current situation. Your second post is just as negative, but with some sarcasm added.

You said yourself you “don’t know too much” about Allen West.



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I know about as much as I want to know. It’s immaterial to me who they choose, if anyone. My point was that the board is going to do what they want to do and I don’t care. I’m done with them. So if you or anyone else wants to campaign for a replacement, have at it. I was merely passing along what I read.
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Why would the NRA want Col Allen West, I think he has a criminal history and worked as a corrupt military contractor? Before moving to Texas to reinvent his reputation
Seems like a bad choice
What criminal history would that be?

The improper interrogation of an Iraq prisoner where be was not brought up before a court martial?
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I volunteered on Allen West’s campaign for Texas Governor. He is a good man who lost to Abbot because of Abbot’s war chest. I think he would do wonders for the NRA. I’m a NRA life member who has been saying LaPierre needs replaced for many years. Let’s hope it happens.


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[QUOTE=AntlerCollector;16218630]”West is a career candidate looking for an office”

Yes Sir! I totally agree!

Wayne needs to go for sure and he needs to be investigated!
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West also flamed the current board pretty well. Doubt they'll reward that.
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I know about as much as I want to know. It’s immaterial to me who they choose, if anyone. My point was that the board is going to do what they want to do and I don’t care. I’m done with them. So if you or anyone else wants to campaign for a replacement, have at it. I was merely passing along what I read.
I agree, Don. I did not renew my membership after LaPierre sent the letter out referring to government officials as jackbooted thugs, trying to sensationalize things to recruit members. He just went overboard to protect "his" income stream.
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I left during the early 90s and never looked back. The scare tactics and scandals obviously work but just not for me.

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How can someone be a “career candidate” if they had a career that wasn’t politics?
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How can someone be a “career candidate” if they had a career that wasn’t politics?

People can have more than one career in their life. Simple as that. Look at West’s political career. He has one.
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People can have more than one career in their life. Simple as that. Look at West’s political career. He has one.
A short one…
And his other one is quite impressive.
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A short one…
And his other one is quite impressive.


His military career was impressive. That has nothing to do with his political career though. I mean, I know a few guys who retired from military service and are prospering in a 2nd career.

What’s the point you’re trying to make?

John McCain had an impressive military career too, but he also had a political career as a Senator for 31 years.


Would you call 31 years as a Senator a career?
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His military career was impressive. That has nothing to do with his political career though. I mean, I know a few guys who retired from military service and are prospering in a 2nd career.

What’s the point you’re trying to make?

John McCain had an impressive military career too, but he also had a political career as a Senator for 31 years.


Would you call 31 years as a Senator a career?
My question is more, what’s your point you’re trying to make?
You are the one that said he was a career candidate…
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My question is more, what’s your point you’re trying to make?
You are the one that said he was a career candidate…


Well that’s a better question than what you asked.

“How can someone be a “career candidate” if they had a career that wasn’t politics?”

I will be happy to explain why that is my opinion.

West served in the US House representing Florida from 2011-2013

He ran for Governor of Texas and lost in the primary in March of this year.

He was the Chair of the Texas Republican Party from 2020-2021

Now he’s apparently wanting to run the NRA.

Again IMO, he’s just looking for a place to land.
I’m not saying it’s necessarily a bad thing. A man’s gotta work. He’s also a motivational speaker and is trying to stay relevant within the Republican Party. That’s why I stated imo he’s a career candidate. He hasn’t stayed anywhere long as a private citizen serving the public.

He may very well make a better VP for the NRA than LaPierre. I don’t know.
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AC, I agree with you. I don’t really have anything against him, and I think he is a conservative and decent guy…just not proven and trying to find someplace in politics to land.
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He hasn’t stayed anywhere long as a private citizen serving the public.

He may very well make a better VP for the NRA than LaPierre. I don’t know.
20 plus years serving his country…
Yea, I think he’s more than qualified…
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20 plus years serving his country…
Yea, I think he’s more than qualified…

“Private citizen”. I’m not talking about his distinguished military career. Wow. This is hard for some of y’all to understand


20 years in the military doesn’t make him “more than qualified” to be the Governor of Texas, or VP of the NRA, or anything else. God bless him for what he did serving in the military. That doesn’t always automatically translate into other aspects of life. I gave John McCain as a perfect example. Wasn’t he the reason we have Obamacare?


Again I’m not saying any of this as a knock against Col West.

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AC, I agree with you. I don’t really have anything against him, and I think he is a conservative and decent guy…just not proven and trying to find someplace in politics to land.
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“Private citizen”. I’m not talking about his distinguished military career. Wow. This is hard for some of y’all to understand


20 years in the military doesn’t make him “more than qualified” to be the Governor of Texas, or VP of the NRA, or anything else. God bless him for what he did serving in the military. That doesn’t always automatically translate into other aspects of life. I gave John McCain as a perfect example. Wasn’t he the reason we have Obamacare?


Again I’m not saying any of this as a knock against Col West.
So what would make one qualified?
What made Wayne qualified?
Was Trump qualified?

You were the one calling him a career politician…Even though he isn’t…
What do you have against him?
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AC, you make a valid point, except that Justice Roberts, Bush appointee, is the reason we have Obamacare. That particular buck stopped on his desk. Again, I don’t know how good of an Executive VP West would make, none of us do. We may never know depending on what the board does. I’m a Life Endowment Member, but for the last few years each letter I got from the NRA I sent back in the return mail with a message written on their letter. It stated that they would get no more money from me until LaPierre was gone. I aim to stick with that, and evidently they believed me because I don’t get those solicitations anymore. I gave lots over the years, attended lots of banquets and bought lots of auction items. No more !

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AC, you make a valid point, except that Justice Roberts, Bush appointee, is the reason we have Obamacare. That particular buck stopped on his desk. Again, I don’t know how good of an Executive VP West would make, none of us do. We may never know depending on what the board does. I’m a Life Endowment Member, but for the last few years each letter I got from the NRA I sent back in the return mail with a message written on their letter. It stated that they would get no more money from me until LaPierre was gone. I aim to stick with that, and evidently they believed me because I don’t get those solicitations anymore. I gave lots over the years, attended lots of banquets and bought lots of auction items. No more !


The Obamacare comment was a question. You’re right, it was Justice Roberts. I vaguely remember McCain showing up for a vote that was very unpopular with conservatives. Now that I think about it maybe Trump was in office.


I also haven’t given money to the NRA in about 3 or 4 years now. I too will not as long as Wayne is running the show. I don’t like saying that because the NRA use to be the guardian of our guns rights. I do think they have lost their way and I hope there will be changes for the better coming.
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Old 05-15-2022, 09:00 PM   #49
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So what would make one qualified?
What made Wayne qualified?
Was Trump qualified?

You were the one calling him a career politician…Even though he isn’t…
What do you have against him?


I’m done going around in circles with you. I have nothing against Col Allen West. I’ve attended one of his speeches before. He’s a hell of a speaker and best I can tell a good man.

I also never called him a career politician.

I called him a career candidate. He’s never held any office more than two years, but he’s constantly trying to land somewhere.

You’re obviously a fan of his and somehow me telling folks to educate themselves about Col West has rubbed you wrong.
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Old 05-15-2022, 09:08 PM   #50
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I’m done going around in circles with you. I have nothing against Col Allen West. I’ve attended one of his speeches before. He’s a hell of a speaker and best I can tell a good man.

I also never called him a career politician.

I called him a career candidate. He’s never held any office more than two years.

You’re obviously a fan of his and somehow me telling folks to educate themselves about Col West has rubbed you wrong.
Don’t get butt hurt…
Yes, I am guilty of being a fan of those that had a distinguished career in the military.
Just trying to figure out why you don’t think he’s qualified.
Which you have failed to explain…
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