? about Covid and Death Certificates

[Mudslinger]

Probably a question for a lawyer, but here goes.

I have seen a couple of threads on TBH and other reports on the interweb about the majority of people dying now is blamed on Covid if they test positive.

Here is my question.

A person comes in with a gunshot and dies at the hospital. During the process of determining the exact cause of death, they tested positive for Covid and that is what is put as the cause of death on the Death Certificate. The perp is found, indicted and taken to trial. The defense lawyer brings up the cause of death as Covid and not a gunshot, does the shooter walk.

One thread one here recently said as much. Victim brought in with a gunshot to the head, dead, but tested positive for Covid amd that is on the Death Certificate.

Is this out of the realm of possibility or could happen or has happened in this crazy year of 2020?

[Bluesman]

Conspiracy theories are easily debunked.

[RR 314]

I don’t care how incompetent the coroner is, they are not going to list Covid as the cause of death in that example. However, I have seen numerous examples where Covid is listed as the cause of death under very questionable circumstances.

[Jspradley]

Conspiracy theories are easily debunked.

Not when you have antibodies to reality ;-)

[rut-ro]

I don’t care how incompetent the coroner is, they are not going to list Covid as the cause of death in that example. However, I have seen numerous examples where Covid is listed as the cause of death under very questionable circumstances.

This hear however a coroner would not be used in a death at a hospital. They sign and determine their own death.

One thing I would like to bring up is the fact that major metropolitan areas have a higher death rate. If you look at Austin, Dallas, Houston and San Antonio they are the “big areas” of the state. Yea they have more people but they also have better medical facilities. Where to people from the middle of no where get transported to for help? The big cities. If the pass while there it’s a stay for the city.

[Terry]

In Colorado in one county 40% of the COVID deaths also had gun shot wounds. Follow the money.

[Jspradley]

In Colorado in one county 40% of the COVID deaths also had gun shot wounds. Follow the money.

Got a source for that?

[jaspermac]

Got a source for that?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/12/17/in-colorado-theyre-counting-gun-shot-fatalities-as-covid-deaths-n2581730

I saw it on fox news

[RattlesnakeDan]

Recently a guy fell off a ladder and it was listed as a covid death. When questioned on it the reply was he could have fallen because of covid.
I guarantee there are people on this forum that have had family members that died listed as covid when they know they did not die from covid.
And if it is so easily treatable which we see that it is, why does anyone die from covid alone, they probably don't.

[jaspermac]

George Floyd also had COVID so I guess it depends on who is benefiting from the death

[pontiac]

Take a minute to read the original CBS Denver News story that is the source.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/12/15/grand-county-covid-deaths/

Look at the definitions CDC uses. They have 2 categories:
1. Deaths due to COVID-19 and
2. Deaths among COVID-19 cases (people who had COVID when they died but COVID not listed as cause of death on the death certificate).

If both gunshot victims had COVID then it looks like they were designated correctly as “Deaths among COVID cases”.

It does not look like anyone said that COVID caused their deaths.

[JonBoy]

George Floyd also had COVID so I guess it depends on who is benefiting from the death

To be fair, George Floyd tested positive for antibodies...he had Covid but had recovered

[S-3 Ranch]

To be fair, George Floyd tested positive for antibodies...he had Covid but had recovered

Maybe not!
The most commonly reported long-term symptoms include:

Fatigue
Shortness of breath
Cough
Joint pain
Chest pain
Other reported long-term symptoms include:

Difficulty with thinking and concentration (sometimes referred to as “brain fog”)
Depression
Muscle pain
Headache
Intermittent fever
Fast-beating or pounding heart (also known as heart palpitations)
More serious long-term complications appear to be less common but have been reported. These have been noted to affect different organ systems in the body. These include:

Cardiovascular: inflammation of the heart muscle
Respiratory: lung function abnormalities
Renal: acute kidney injury
Dermatologic: rash, hair loss
Neurological: smell and taste problems, sleep issues, difficulty with concentration, memory problems
Psychiatric: depression, anxiety, changes in mood


Add in George Floyd was a chronic meth user, IMO he was a walking dead guy

[IowaHunter]

When my wife died of cancer last month the first thing I looked for on the death certificate was the cause of death. It was labeled correctly thank goodness.

[Jspradley]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...eaths-n2581730

I saw it on fox news

Always read the linked sources in news articles.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/12/15/grand-county-covid-deaths/

The CDC requires reporting of deaths DUE to Covid and separately deaths AMONG confirmed Covid cases.

The county had 5 deaths among people with Covid, 3 dies DUE to Covid, 2 died DUE to gsw but they were absolutely AMONG confirmed cases so they had to be reported as such.

Fox News and Townhall lied to you in the best way, by telling a technical truth in a misleading way.