ATF has made their ruling

[Clay C]

Keep in mind, this is the caliber of ATF agent that might come knocking at your door.

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https://youtu.be/nwPEtFNZpiI

That video always makes me feel warm and fuzzy

[DirtyDave]

Keep in mind, this is the caliber of ATF agent that might come knocking at your door.

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https://youtu.be/nwPEtFNZpiI

One of the greatest videos of all time!! LOL

[DirtyDave]

Wanna bet the court determines the AFT doesn't have the authority to waive a tax and everyone (who complies) will have to pay it anyways? Law enforcement agencies are not taxing authorities. No Free Cheese... LOL

Kinda like the court said Biden didn't have the authority to waive student loans

[coker737]

I registered my AR pistol yesterday. I plan to just put a stock on it and make a legit SBR. I did it online through the eForms as an individual and it didn't charge me for a stamp and was pretty simple. I'm mailing my prints in today. We'll see how it goes, but they didn't ask for any proof of when it was purchased, etc.

IMHO…. Registration Leads To Confiscation

[Mike D]

https://youtu.be/YHgN3cn-TUo

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[CRM_95]

IMHO…. Registration Leads To Confiscation

People have been registering SBR's and supressors for years and haven't had any issues. I'm not saying there may not be issues down the road, but the truth is every gun you've ever bought new, there's a record of it. They may as well all be registered as it is honestly.

[mmoses]

People have been registering SBR's and supressors for years and haven't had any issues. I'm not saying there may not be issues down the road, but the truth is every gun you've ever bought new, there's a record of it. They may as well all be registered as it is honestly.

There is a record. But the atf doesn't know what you got unless your FFL went out of business.

And all that record shows that at some point you had it.

NFA tells the atf, make, model, barrel length, caliber, location, exactly who you are.

Easy to see that's a huge difference.

[CRM_95]

There is a record. But the atf doesn't know what you got unless your FFL went out of business.

And all that record shows that at some point you had it.

NFA tells the atf, make, model, barrel length, caliber, location, exactly who you are.

Easy to see that's a huge difference.

Maybe so...I guess what I'm getting at, is I'm not concerned if they know or not. I just wanna build a supressed SBR and this will save me $200. If for whatever reason my stamp is denied, I'll put a full length upper on it and make another rifle. It sucks and it's a BS ruling and an infringement..I get that and there's no arguing it.

There's millions of these out there, and millions of lawfully owned rifles that people have stamps for. I personally know our local ATF guy (yes, we only have one for 3 counties), and they stay stupid busy with bigger fish than this. Local law enforcement doesn't have the manpower to enforce it and the majority won't anyway. I fell pretty safe applying for a stamp.

[mmoses]

What is the general consensus now? Are these three legal?

[Mike D]

People have been registering SBR's and supressors for years and haven't had any issues. I'm not saying there may not be issues down the road, but the truth is every gun you've ever bought new, there's a record of it. They may as well all be registered as it is honestly.

I’ll believe until this is unraveled in the courts that this is a nefarious move to entrap Americans into being felons.

If I had any of these I would not willingly register them just to save $200.


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[Quackerbox]

I’ll believe until this is unraveled in the courts that this is a nefarious move to entrap Americans into being felons.

If I had any of these I would not willingly register them just to save $200.


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To add its going to be nearly impossible to track down all the stripped lowers that were bought and built as pistols. At best the alphabet squad could subpoena pistol kit/barrel sales records from places like PSA and other online dealers

[Clay C]

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To add its going to be nearly impossible to track down all the stripped lowers that were bought and built as pistols. At best the alphabet squad could subpoena pistol kit/barrel sales records from places like PSA and other online dealers

Yup, like they recently did with Rainier Arms for 80% frames.


Obviously, This would be a little more difficult for them though. I can't see that being feasible unless they had the support of local LEO. Even then it's iffy.

[imyomama]

for an ar... .. put a $200 16" upper on it , leave the rest as is .. it's now configured as a rifle and they can go pound sand! ... the end!

[npe001]

What is the general consensus now? Are these three legal?

According to their "Ruling" the top would be considered illegal because of the foam is my understanding.. but the other two are not. lol its all bs.

[coker737]

What is the general consensus now? Are these three legal?

According to the 2nd Amendment……..Yes