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Old 08-14-2022, 09:35 AM   #1
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I'm wanting to play with my AR on hogs, head shots would be the target. . What's the best .223/5.56 for something like this.
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Old 08-14-2022, 09:35 AM   #2
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Hornady Spire Point in 55gr. End of discussion


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Old 08-14-2022, 09:37 AM   #3
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I'd shoot softpoints.
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Old 08-14-2022, 09:48 AM   #4
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I shoot the cheapest ones I can buy from academy and it works great on pigs in .223. They used the be $7/20 but now theyíre double that.


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Old 08-14-2022, 09:50 AM   #5
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I like the 62 gr loads that have hog picture or the deer picture on the box

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Old 08-14-2022, 10:02 AM   #6
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62gr Barnes is just about all I shoot, from coons to pigs.
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Old 08-14-2022, 10:27 AM   #7
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I use mostly vmax’s for this type of work
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Old 08-14-2022, 10:28 AM   #8
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Any grain that will shot straight would be my recomendation but if you can have someone reload you some find some Sierra 55 grain BTHP's have used them for years and have never gotten a complaint from any animal I shot.
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Old 08-14-2022, 10:59 AM   #9
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1:7 Twist and 60+ grain soft points
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Old 08-14-2022, 11:44 AM   #10
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If you are going to do head shots, I would just working on finding the most accurate ammo from your gun, not any specific bullet type or brand. Accuracy is going to be the main concern. My gun likes the 52 gr. Speer hollow point, by far the best, for accuracy. So that's what I used, for shooting pigs in the head with, worked great. I would try to shoot for the side of the head, in their ear or close to the ear. Basically hit the skull perpendicular to the surface. I have seen numerous hogs shot from the front, and hit on the front of the sloped part of their skull, such as between the eyes. The bullet will often deflect off. I have seen it happen with 44 Mags. 270s and 308s. If their head is down and giving you a shot, were that part of the skull is near perpendicular, then a frontal shot, should probably be fine.

It's when they are looking at you, that their skull is prone to deflecting bullets. Then younger pigs, it probably does not matter what angle you shoot them from, their skulls should be soft enough, that most any round should penetrate, from about any angle.

I definitely prefer side profile, in the ear, does not matter much what you shoot them with at that point.

My gun is chambered for 5.56, then has a 1 in 9 twist. So bullets around 55 gr. should work best. I found that 52 gr. Speer hollow point, gets the bullet much closer to the rifling lands than any other bullet I have tried. The best I have ever got from any other ammo or bullet, is 1 1/2" groups at 100 yards. But with that Speer bullet I get 1/4" groups from the gun. Those are the only bullets I have been able to get to shoot under an 1" with that gun. I keep saying I am going to put a 223 Wylde chambered barrel on the gun, so I can get good accuracy from other bullets, but have not done so yet. The barrel on my gun being chrome lined, it's never going to wear out, in my possession.
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Old 08-14-2022, 12:18 PM   #11
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Winchester 64gr sp
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Old 08-14-2022, 12:25 PM   #12
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If shooting hogs in the head or earhole any available round will do the trick. .22 is just as effective for reference.
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Old 08-14-2022, 12:42 PM   #13
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62 federal fusion have worked amazing for me
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Old 08-14-2022, 01:40 PM   #14
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I have good luck with all brands with pointed softpoints in 62-69gr
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Old 08-14-2022, 01:56 PM   #15
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What twist rate is your barrel? If it’s a 1/8 or 1/9, be wary of the Barnes bullets. I’ve got a 1/9 that will stack 70gr speers on top of eachother, but won’t stabilize the 62gr Barnes.

Factory ammo I ran the 62gr Fusion, the Winchester 64gr super x load and the federal blue box 64gr. All did great in my AR and killed many deer and pigs.

Having a heavier bullet option for my AR is what got me into reloading. My go to load now is a 65gr Sierra gameking and it’s the bees knees(in my opinion) for 223.
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Old 08-14-2022, 02:12 PM   #16
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I've heard all my life of bullets skipping off javelin and hogs foreheads but I have never seen it happen or proof of it. Even with a rimfire shooting hogs in a trap and looking right at me. In my .556 I load 55pr hornady spire points.
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Old 08-14-2022, 03:26 PM   #17
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Hornady Spire Point in 55gr. End of discussion


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Did not even have to shoot them in the head. .223 55gr Hornady SP. took about 20 seconds to take these 6 in the woods


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Old 08-14-2022, 04:01 PM   #18
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its a 1:7 twist, what typically works?
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Old 08-14-2022, 04:48 PM   #19
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I am going to try 77 Grain Tipped Match Kings in mine once APR finishes the build.
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Old 08-14-2022, 06:12 PM   #20
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I've heard all my life of bullets skipping off javelin and hogs foreheads but I have never seen it happen or proof of it. Even with a rimfire shooting hogs in a trap and looking right at me. In my .556 I load 55pr hornady spire points.
I scalped one with a 270 shooting ballistic tip Winchester. It will deflect.
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I've heard all my life of bullets skipping off javelin and hogs foreheads but I have never seen it happen or proof of it. Even with a rimfire shooting hogs in a trap and looking right at me. In my .556 I load 55pr hornady spire points.
I have done it twice now, once with .223 and once with the 7.62x39, Both were facing me, head up and about a hundred yards. Both got up after about 30 seconds to a minute and ran off. Now if I have to take that shot, I just shoot them again while they are laying on the ground.
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Old 08-14-2022, 07:33 PM   #22
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I've killed about 20 hogs with 73gr ELD-Ms.
They come in a factory load.
Biggest one was 250+, many close to 200. One shot. Most are one shot unless I make a poor shot (only a couple).
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Old 08-14-2022, 08:03 PM   #23
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55gr SP swab out the ol' ear hole real good!
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Old 08-14-2022, 08:46 PM   #24
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I’ve had good luck with the 55 gr Hornady sp too
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its a 1:7 twist, what typically works?
A 1:7 will stabilize any factory ammo you can find for it.

If you want cheap, find the cheapest 55gr soft point you can. If you want something a little better, any of the 60+ gr offerings out there will do fine.
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:21 AM   #26
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FMJ. Hit um about three times in the stomach and let um RUN and die TIRED. Bahahahaha
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Old 08-15-2022, 07:41 AM   #27
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Fiocchi 55gr soft points are some of the most accurate I've ever shot in my bolt gun and cheap to boot. I've seen some big deer killed with Barnes bullets as well. Shot placement is key.
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Old 08-16-2022, 01:15 AM   #28
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I am going to try 77 Grain Tipped Match Kings in mine once APR finishes the build.
These bullets are absolutely deadly
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Old 08-16-2022, 02:21 PM   #29
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I've killed a ton of hogs and deer with 55 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips out of a Rock River Coyote Rifle. Last year, I built a really lightweight AR and it didn't like the Ballistic Tips. But it DID like 55 grain Sierra Blitzkings. So I killed a bunch of stuff with them last year. All head / neck shots, though.
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Old 08-16-2022, 02:36 PM   #30
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Any grain that will shot straight would be my recomendation but if you can have someone reload you some find some Sierra 55 grain BTHP's have used them for years and have never gotten a complaint from any animal I shot.
These are awesome for anything. Theyíve been out of stock but I buy them when I can find them
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Old 08-16-2022, 02:40 PM   #31
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I have done it twice now, once with .223 and once with the 7.62x39, Both were facing me, head up and about a hundred yards. Both got up after about 30 seconds to a minute and ran off. Now if I have to take that shot, I just shoot them again while they are laying on the ground.
Iíve seen several that had holes through the skull only to survey. If you miss the brain cavity or spinal column itís all sinus and tongue meat. Itís crazy what they can survive.
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Default 223 cal, AA2520 powder, 73gr ELDM

One shot stop.
142 yards per BallisticArc app.

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Old 08-25-2022, 09:09 AM   #33
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the most important part in my opinion is barrel length.. my pig gun ar 556 is 20"
3250ft/s tested with 55gr sp ... velocity kills ! energy/speed is exponential ... same bullet in 10.5" will be less than impressive ...
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Old 08-26-2022, 05:21 AM   #34
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This bullet is the best pig killer Iíve used.

https://www.shootersproshop.com/22-c...00ct-blem.html
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Old 08-26-2022, 07:09 AM   #35
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This bullet is the best pig killer Iíve used.

https://www.shootersproshop.com/22-c...00ct-blem.html

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Old 08-26-2022, 03:44 PM   #36
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I've always used the 62gr. fusions or barnes with great results. I bought a daniel defense mk12 that shoots so well with the hornady black 75gr HP's I thought I'd give them a try. I've only done neck shots on does and head shots on pigs, but my gosh the damage has been insane!! Would I shoulder shoot a big buck with one, absolutely not, but so far color me impressed!
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One shot stop.
142 yards per BallisticArc app.

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Did ya have to hold him down with your foot to shoot him? Sure looks like it makes a pretty red round hole on the other side.







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Old 08-26-2022, 09:13 PM   #38
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Did ya have to hold him down with your foot to shoot him? Sure looks like it makes a pretty red round hole on the other side.







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Yes, he was not cooperating.
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Old 08-27-2022, 08:16 PM   #39
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Fiocchi 55gr soft points are some of the most accurate I've ever shot in my bolt gun and cheap to boot. I've seen some big deer killed with Barnes bullets as well. Shot placement is key.
I'll second that. I sold my AR before Sam comes for em.
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55 grain VMax with 10.5 barrel, 100 yards or less? I think I would be fine with S.Texas size deer and try to make a neck shot. I want to use mine and send pics to my friends back in Indiana.
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65 grain Sierra gamekings.


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Old 08-31-2022, 07:42 PM   #42
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In an AR Gold Dots or Fusions (arguably the same bullet) are hard to beat for an all around bullet.


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Iíve had great success using the Sierra 65 gn Gameking and the Speer 70 gn SP on hogs.

Powder I used was Re-15 and CFE 223.

My AR has a 1&8 twist & 18Ē length.


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