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Old 09-13-2022, 11:48 AM   #1
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I was running through the total of TPWD, Big Time Hunts, and TYHP applications this year and I came up with 77 and have drawn 3 so far. Last year I had around 55 and wasn't drawn at all. I was curios to know what other people are coming up with.

What's is your number of applications to selection ratio?
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Old 09-13-2022, 11:53 AM   #2
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I usually put in for a couple of archery hunts and maybe a e-postcard hunt. Then my brother includes me on the gun hunts which is usually around 4 total. So probably a total of 8 or so and I usually draw something every 2 to 3 years.
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Old 09-13-2022, 11:54 AM   #3
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I've applied for 30+ hunts for 7 years now- been to Black Gap for archery mule deer and James Daughtrey for archery deer.
So 2 for 210 give or take.
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Old 09-13-2022, 12:16 PM   #4
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ive been putting my boys in for 5 years now, between the 3 of us i probably enter about 20 different hunts a year, only the ones i consider "good." i have 9pts in a couple categories for myself but before my boys were able to hunt i only put in for 3 or 4 hunts a year in those categories.

the first year my son and i drew the chap for archery, he had 1pt and i think i had 4, i was only trying to get another point that year because i knew we wouldnt be able to go.

we didnt draw anything for a couple years then last year they drew youth GDE at powderhorn with 3 and 4pts, this year they drew youth gator at neches with 4pts (again only trying for a point because we have football and cant go), and i just drew hagerman with 4pts.

so 4 draws out of roughly 100 chances in the last 5 years.
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Old 09-13-2022, 12:19 PM   #5
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ive been putting my boys in for 5 years now, between the 3 of us i probably enter about 20 different hunts a year, only the ones i consider "good." i have 9pts in a couple categories for myself but before my boys were able to hunt i only put in for 3 or 4 hunts a year in those categories.

the first year my son and i drew the chap for archery, he had 1pt and i think i had 4, i was only trying to get another point that year because i knew we wouldnt be able to go.

we didnt draw anything for a couple years then last year they drew youth GDE at powderhorn with 3 and 4pts, this year they drew youth gator at neches with 4pts (again only trying for a point because we have football and cant go), and i just drew hagerman with 4pts.

so 4 draws out of roughly 100 chances in the last 5 years.
Those are some good draws.
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Old 09-13-2022, 12:58 PM   #6
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From 2001 through 2013 I applied for 202 hunts and drawn 12 times.
From 2014 through 2021 I applied for 557 hunts and drawn 22 times.

That's only counting the $3 and $10 TPWD entries.
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Old 09-13-2022, 01:11 PM   #7
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I’m 1 for roughly 200
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Old 09-13-2022, 01:22 PM   #8
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I've had some decent luck i guess. I started applying in 2014, have applied for 283 total hunts since then and have been drawn for 14 hunts.
14/15 - 1 app, no draw
15/16 - 8 apps, no draw
16/17 - 17 apps, 1 draw
17/18 - 34 apps, 4 draws
18/19 - 45 apps, 3 draws
19/20 - 49 apps, 1 draw
20/21 - 59 apps, 2 draws
21/22 - 53 apps, 2 draws
22/23 - 17 apps, 1 draw so far this year.
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Old 09-13-2022, 01:48 PM   #9
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Tagged. I'll crunch the numbers when I get home and post them up. I know I've only drawn one hunt in several years of applying. My daughter drew one youth hunt (her and my son were on the same application). My son has been much luckier on the youth hunts.

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Old 09-13-2022, 01:58 PM   #10
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I've had some decent luck i guess. I started applying in 2014, have applied for 283 total hunts since then and have been drawn for 14 hunts.
14/15 - 1 app, no draw
15/16 - 8 apps, no draw
16/17 - 17 apps, 1 draw
17/18 - 34 apps, 4 draws
18/19 - 45 apps, 3 draws
19/20 - 49 apps, 1 draw
20/21 - 59 apps, 2 draws
21/22 - 53 apps, 2 draws
22/23 - 17 apps, 1 draw so far this year.
Those are some good numbers. Its safe to say that almost every year you're going to get drawn.

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Tagged. I'll crunch the numbers when I get home and post them up. I know I've only drawn one hunt in several years of applying. My daughter drew one youth hunt (her and my son were on the same application). My son has been much luckier on the youth hunts.
My son got drawn two years in a row for TYHP. Last year we struck out, hoping this year he draws.

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Old 09-13-2022, 02:36 PM   #11
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last 5 years...8 for 188
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Old 09-13-2022, 02:45 PM   #12
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2014 - 1 for 28
2015 - 0 for 45
2016 - 3 for 52
2017 - 1 for 55
2018 - 3 for 61
2019 - 0 for 63
2020 - 1 for 74
2021 - 2 for 63

Total - 11 for 441 (2.5%)
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Old 09-13-2022, 10:18 PM   #13
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Tagged. I'll crunch the numbers when I get home and post them up. I know I've only drawn one hunt in several years of applying. My daughter drew one youth hunt (her and my son were on the same application). My son has been much luckier on the youth hunts.
Just did the numbers.

Last 9 years I have had 150 applications (did not include this year in the numbers as I'm still applying but I am at 30 something so far). Drew one hunt which was a management buck hunt at Mason Mountain WMA. There was one year where I basically didn't apply for much of anything due to personal stuff going on. Another year I was working a lot of extra hours and only applied to 7 hunts.

The kids have applied for 69 hunts and have been drawn 4 times. Also have been on standby hunts 2 times.

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Does not include big time hunts or TYHP hunts. I will have to look at those numbers.

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Old 09-13-2022, 10:42 PM   #14
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Drawn hunts...
2020: 2 for 35
2021: 3 for 74
2022: 2 for 32 so far. Plan on signing up for all ePostcard hunts.
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Old 09-13-2022, 10:46 PM   #15
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1 for ~200
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Old 09-14-2022, 12:23 AM   #16
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Those are some good numbers. Its safe to say that almost every year you're going to get drawn.



My son got drawn two years in a row for TYHP. Last year we struck out, hoping this year he draws.
I hope my luck continues year after year! I thoroughly enjoy the fair chase hunting of public lands. It definitely has made me a better hunter! Really need a mule deer hunt , then I might slow down some
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Old 09-14-2022, 09:41 AM   #17
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Just curious, is there a difference between the TYHP and the youth drawn hunts?
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Old 09-14-2022, 10:40 AM   #18
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I've probably applied for 30 of the Big Time Texas Hunts and of course no luck there. For me and my kids I've applied to exactly 300 hunts over the past 5 years(290 in the past 4 years).

I've drawn e-postcard archery 3 times. NWR archery twice. Those are probably the easiest of all hunt to draw for with 10-50% draw odds on some of them. My kids have now drawn 2 hunts out of close to 100 apps(I have 3 kids who have applied). One of those was an easy to draw and not very good archery hunt at a state park where only 2 kids even showed up for the hunt.

So we've drawn 6 of the pretty easy to draw hunts out of about 30 applications in those easy categories. My son drew Powderhorn this year which is our only draw out of the other 270 apps in all categories not including e-postcard archery and NWR archery.
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Old 09-14-2022, 10:44 AM   #19
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Just curious, is there a difference between the TYHP and the youth drawn hunts?
yes they are completely different programs run by different organizations with a different draw process. TYHP actually gives preference to those who have never been selected before so first time applicants are the most likely to get drawn and some of their hunts they don't have enough applicants to fill the spots. They'll post on Facebook at the last minute that they still need youth hunters to fill spots.
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Old 09-14-2022, 12:59 PM   #20
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2017 - 0/12
2018 - 0/17
2019 - 5/42 (4 e-postcards)
2020 - 2/33 (1 e-postcard)
2021 - 0/47

7/151 or 4.6%

Apply for all Big Time Texas Hunts every year as well.

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Old 09-14-2022, 01:44 PM   #21
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Ten or more per year. Never draw anything.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:34 PM   #22
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Haven't drawn archery since 2010 and I don't only put in for the low odds hunts, couldn't tell you how many times put in but a bunch.
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Old 09-15-2022, 11:39 PM   #23
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Draw results
2016 - 0/14
2017 - 0/15
2018 - 0/0
2019 - 0/18
2020 - 5/28 (3 E postcard, GDA, GDE)
2021 - 1/19 (E-postcard)
2022 - 0/32

Didn’t draw Hagerman again. Really only looking forward to drawing Pedernales Falls or Gun Mule deer
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Old 09-16-2022, 09:59 AM   #24
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13 out of 222... 5.85%

Pending the rest of this years draws. This is only my 6th year and I've drawn at least something every year. I didn't make it to all of these hunts mostly due to scheduling or work conflicts.

17'/18'- Drew LANWR Archery, Teniente Archery, E-Postcard Feral Hog @ Gus Engeling

18'/19'- Drew LANWR Archery

19'/20'- Drew Archery @ Chaparral, LANWR Archery, Muzzleloader @ Trinity River NWR(Brierwood), Muzzleloader @ Trinity River NWR (Hirsch)

20'/21'- Drew National Refuge General Deer at Balcones Canyonlands NWR, My oldest Daughter drew Youth Antlerless/Spike at Chaparral

21'/22'- Drew National Refuge General Deer @ Trinity River NWR, LANWR Archery

22'/23'- So far this year, Archery @ Trinity River NWR (I hunted here last year on rifle and I bashed it as terrible, decided to put in for the archery because I had a couple nice bucks on camera before archery season and then when rifle season came around it was a ghost town, We'll see if this archery hunt pans out differently. It's only an hour from my house.)

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Old 09-16-2022, 10:09 AM   #25
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I'm at 0/28 thru TPWD. 4/40 thru TYHP
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Old 09-16-2022, 10:44 AM   #26
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I'd have to go back and try to do the math on total entries each year, used to enter all and now I pick ones I really want to hunt or dates that work.

12 years, 2 draws. 1 in 2013 and 1 so far this year
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Old 09-17-2022, 09:58 AM   #27
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I normally do 20-25 apps all categories normally get 1-2 every year.
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Old 09-17-2022, 01:48 PM   #28
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Can’t see anything before this but had 3-4 points in 2014 apps and hadn’t drawn anything before that year. (Makes sense) joined this site in 2009 and that’s when I learned about it/started applying.

2014-12 apps (looks like this was the last year of applying 1 app per category), 1 draw- archery chaparral- killed a javelina

2015 25 apps, 1 draw Private land antlerless killed 3 does I believe

2016- 23 apps, 0 draw

2017- 27 apps, 1 draw Alligator(hunt cancelled due to hurricane)

2018- 20 apps, 0 draw

2019 18 apps, 1 draw - archery whitetail chaparral (killed a javelina)

2020- 26 apps, 0 draw

2021- 21 apps,1 draw rifle antlerless (pedernales) saw a nice buck and no does, slow hunt for all there but said it’s usually a great place. Shot a pig.

162 apps - 5 draw, 4 hunts conducted due to weather cancellation over 8 years I can see records for. I’m at 3% draw for number of apps I’ve placed. Calculating the other years (was this still postcard days) probably close to 2%.

I’ve gone to standby twice and been drawn 1 time so 50% on standby (much better)

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Old 09-17-2022, 01:59 PM   #29
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2008 daughtrey gde 0pts
2012 gene Howe gde 4pts
2016 daughtrey archery 4pts
2021 EM mule deer 15pts
2021 daughtrey mgmt 6pts
2022 chap archery 5pts
2022 hag Seg c 2pts
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Old 09-17-2022, 02:08 PM   #30
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It's been interesting reading the posts and seeing the numbers. However, the numbers are not a true indication of what kind of luck you may have.
It totally depends on the type of hunt you're looking for & the quality of the trophy you expect to have an opportunity for, on any given hunt.
Personally, I'm not interested in most of the hunt categories, spikes/does, pigs, etc. Therefore, I typically only apply for quality Whitetail & Mule Deer. Although, the last few years I have been putting in for alligator, also.
In many of the category hunts you have a very high chance of getting drawn. And many others of these hunts, you have a very slim chance of getting drawn. Therefore, if you're just looking for a place to go hunt (and there's nothing wrong with that), you could probably get drawn "somewhere" just about every year. But if you're not willing to "burn all your points" on just "a place to hunt", your chances start getting slimmer as you only select the "harder to draw" places, where your chances for a true trophy are increased.
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Old 09-18-2022, 12:48 PM   #31
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It's been interesting reading the posts and seeing the numbers. However, the numbers are not a true indication of what kind of luck you may have.
It totally depends on the type of hunt you're looking for & the quality of the trophy you expect to have an opportunity for, on any given hunt.
Personally, I'm not interested in most of the hunt categories, spikes/does, pigs, etc. Therefore, I typically only apply for quality Whitetail & Mule Deer. Although, the last few years I have been putting in for alligator, also.
In many of the category hunts you have a very high chance of getting drawn. And many others of these hunts, you have a very slim chance of getting drawn. Therefore, if you're just looking for a place to go hunt (and there's nothing wrong with that), you could probably get drawn "somewhere" just about every year. But if you're not willing to "burn all your points" on just "a place to hunt", your chances start getting slimmer as you only select the "harder to draw" places, where your chances for a true trophy are increased.
This is spot on. I feel like the ones complaining about never drawing are putting in for really low odds draws. Some of the NWR hunts and Archery hunts, Hog hunts, etc. actually have decent odds. I'm basing odds without accounting for points...

I know LANWR Archery is roughly 50% chance to draw.

People have to go into these drawings basically with the mindset that you'll not ever draw until you get A LOT of points and even then, it's a crapshoot at best. Lol.

Happy hunting fellas and I hope everyone draws your most coveted application!!! Good Luck to Y'all!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-18-2022, 01:26 PM   #32
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I donít pay for or work all year on a lease. I donate to TPW and anxiously wait for drawing dates. Then prep, trip and potential harvest are my rewards
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Old 09-18-2022, 01:44 PM   #33
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My sons and I were selected for at least 4 youth hunts before the list below, it only goes back to 2013. And I alone was selected for at least 4 other hunts prior to this list as well. I'd say I've been blessed.

2013 - 6 apps.
2014 - 9 apps. (Had to withdraw from half of them before pick due to work.)
2015 - 8 apps. (Selected for 1 Archery hunt).
2016 - 11 apps. (Withdrew from 2 before pick.)
2017 - 9 apps. (Selected for 1 Gun hunt.)
2018 - 6 apps.
2019 - 6 apps. (Selected for 1 Gun hunt. Withdrew from 1 before pick
due to schedule conflict.)
2020 - 5 apps. (Withdrew from 4 before pick ... don't remember why.)
2021 - 6 apps. (Selected for 1 Gun hunt.)
2022 - 13 apps. (Selected 1 Archery hunt. 2 apps Pending 2nd draw. 2 other apps awaiting selection in Oct./Nov.)
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Old 09-19-2022, 03:12 PM   #34
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I donít pay for or work all year on a lease. I donate to TPW and anxiously wait for drawing dates. Then prep, trip and potential harvest are my rewards
Thats my mentality as well. I don't have a lease (yet) and only get maybe 1-2 invites to a private ranch each year. Im simply trying to get in the outdoors and hunt regardless if its a pig or a trophy hunt.
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Old 09-19-2022, 03:33 PM   #35
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I only put in for hunts in the Panhandle or the top end hunts down state. But my daughter has been drawn, back sometime 2007-2012 or so, for 1 doe only, 1 turkey, and 1 GDE

According to TPWD records via the online draw system, here's how I've done the last 9 years.
2013: 0/5
2014: 0/1
2015: 0/5
2016: 0/10
2017: 0/4
2018: 0/7
2019: 0/8
2020: 0/10
2021: 0/9
2022: ?/12, currently 0/5

= 0.0%

Yep, you don't want to invite me fishing on your boat. I'm joking, I'm not a complainer, I get it - if you put in for the ones that are hard to draw, it's hard to get drawn.

But I've been to Nebraska twice...so there's that.
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Old 09-21-2022, 12:41 PM   #36
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2020-2021: 2/36 (won a feral hog and a furbearer/predator hunt)
2021-2022: 2/56 (won an archery deer and a waterfowl hunt)
2022-2023: 3/67 (so far won a squirrel, gun deer, and archery deer all at NWRs, still have 23 yet to be drawn)

About a 5% draw rate. I expect to win a few things each year but I definitely go for quantity > quality right now. I put in for every adult ePostcard category except falconry and I put in for quite a few paid lotteries as well. I intentionally avoid paid lotteries with very low draw odds.

I put in for a lot of hunts but I don't want to take anyone else's space...I've actually gone on every hunt I've drawn except I'm still on the fence about gun deer at Aransas NWR this year.
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Thats my mentality as well. I don't have a lease (yet) and only get maybe 1-2 invites to a private ranch each year. Im simply trying to get in the outdoors and hunt regardless if its a pig or a trophy hunt.

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Old 09-22-2022, 03:25 PM   #38
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:14 PM   #39
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So far this year I’ve;
Drawn 2 hunts
Was not selected for 19 hunts
Have 8 pending second draw
And have 30 more that haven’t been drawn.

I put in for a few more this year than last year. I normally get drawn for one or two hunts a year.
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:45 PM   #40
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2013-2019 seasons

154 applications, 5 draws - GDE, GDA/S, Javi (x2), Desert Bighorn

none since 2019-2020 (0 for 82)
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Old 09-22-2022, 05:17 PM   #41
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0/14 2015
1/14 2016
1/14 2017
1/14 2018
3/14 2019
0/14 2020
0/14 2021
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:34 PM   #42
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13 out of 222... 5.85%

Pending the rest of this years draws. This is only my 6th year and I've drawn at least something every year. I didn't make it to all of these hunts mostly due to scheduling or work conflicts.

17'/18'- Drew LANWR Archery, Teniente Archery, E-Postcard Feral Hog @ Gus Engeling

18'/19'- Drew LANWR Archery

19'/20'- Drew Archery @ Chaparral, LANWR Archery, Muzzleloader @ Trinity River NWR(Brierwood), Muzzleloader @ Trinity River NWR (Hirsch)

20'/21'- Drew National Refuge General Deer at Balcones Canyonlands NWR, My oldest Daughter drew Youth Antlerless/Spike at Chaparral

21'/22'- Drew National Refuge General Deer @ Trinity River NWR, LANWR Archery

22'/23'- So far this year, Archery @ Trinity River NWR (I hunted here last year on rifle and I bashed it as terrible, decided to put in for the archery because I had a couple nice bucks on camera before archery season and then when rifle season came around it was a ghost town, We'll see if this archery hunt pans out differently. It's only an hour from my house.)
Updating to show that we're now 14 of 222 for 6.31%
Still pending the rest of this years draws.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:39 PM   #43
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2013-2019 seasons

154 applications, 5 draws - GDE, GDA/S, Javi (x2), Desert Bighorn

none since 2019-2020 (0 for 82)
Those are all great draws! Mine are mostly NWR hunts which have better draw odds but not really better hunting. Congrats on your successes.
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Old 10-19-2022, 01:06 AM   #44
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Updating to show that we're now 14 of 222 for 6.31%
Still pending the rest of this years draws.
Updating again!
We've drawn 4 permits so far this year.
My daughters and I are now at 16 of 222 applications. That makes 7.2% for my group all time.
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