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Brazos Hunter 12-11-2019 07:46 AM

Well I just received a call, one of the guys here has or is about to have my plywood on their truck to deliver today or tomorrow! Which one of you delivers for AAA? Tim said you thought it mightíve been for me...small world! I am scheduled to get off and should be home around 1645.





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T-REX 12-11-2019 08:34 AM

That's something I have always wanted to do. Good luck!

kruppa24 12-11-2019 08:37 AM

Can’t wait to see the progress

Brazos Hunter 12-11-2019 05:38 PM

I am more than a little upset and disappointed! The pictures will speak for themselves as to what I found when I got home.

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Brazos Hunter 12-11-2019 07:13 PM

Needless to say, my build start will be delayed slightly. I have refused the shipment due to damages incurred during freight. My original plan was to slip out to the shop Monday during a remodeling break and begin layout then cut/scarph when ready/time permits. This way I could go right into assembly mid/late week. Now the replacement order is due to arrive mid to late week. Such is life I guess!





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Hoggslayer 12-11-2019 08:58 PM

Was that delivered by one of our guys ? I hope not.

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Brazos Hunter 12-12-2019 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoggslayer (Post 14572874)
Was that delivered by one of our guys ? I hope not.

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AAA...no signature by the driver either. I just wish they would have delivered it when we had it scheduled for (when I was home) because I would have refused it then and there. Now the guy is going to have to comeback and get this $1k pack of fire starter off my porch.



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Brazos Hunter 12-12-2019 03:31 PM

A replacement order has been shipped and should arrive midweek. I am very impressed with the way BBC has handled this!




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K_Wittenburg 12-17-2019 10:38 AM

Ouch I’d be a tad upset if I got home to that on my porch.

Bluedevil 12-17-2019 12:11 PM

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I built a bateau phantom 18 starting back in 2001. I was working in fits and starts, but I finished it in 2008. I ended up redoing the transom last year because I was developing a few motor well cracks. I wish I had built it stronger the first time. Lots of sweat and sanding in the project, but it is a point of pride in running a boat you build yourself.

Brazos Hunter 12-17-2019 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluedevil (Post 14583821)
I built a bateau phantom 18 starting back in 2001. I was working in fits and starts, but I finished it in 2008. I ended up redoing the transom last year because I was developing a few motor well cracks. I wish I had built it stronger the first time. Lots of sweat and sanding in the project, but it is a point of pride in running a boat you build yourself.



That is awesome and supports what I am thinking when it comes to the transom! I plan to sandwich 3/4 BC marine with 6mm Okoume so if I decide to go with a little larger outboard later it is ready and if not, it should last.

BTW, my replacement Okoume is scheduled for delivery tomorrow morning!!!




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Bluedevil 12-17-2019 02:10 PM

The original bateau plans had 3/4" x 12" mahogany clamp board. The motor well was suppose to stiffen the laminate, but I put a bigger motor on and didn't do a great job on tying the transom to the motor well. On the new transom, I laminated two 3/4" layers of okoume together, which cover the entire transom and tie directly into the stringers. I then eliminated the motor well and boxed in the whole rear compartment with two longitudinal bulkheads laminated to the inboard stringers and a horizontal bulkhead which is cleated to the top of the stringers and filited between the rear bulkhead and the transom. Knock on wood, but I think it should be plenty strong at this point.

timoub007 12-17-2019 06:49 PM

Listen to what Bluedevil explained and did, then go look at many build and repair threads on the BBC message board. You will get a LOT more strength tying the transom in to the stringers and rear deck (if your build has one) than you will adding more layers to the transom thickness. If you want to add thickness, add more bidirectional woven glass (not mat) to the laminate not more wood. The strength of the stitch and glue method comes from the glass and epoxy. The wood is mostly a substrate to hold the shape and provide puncture resistance. It does give some strength so don't think that I'm discounting it completely.

Tim

timoub007 12-17-2019 06:51 PM

BTW Bluedevil your one pic looks awesome. I really want to build the 22' Phantom but do not have the time like I did 15 years ago.

Got a link to a build thread or some more pictures?

T

Brazos Hunter 12-17-2019 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluedevil (Post 14584058)
The original bateau plans had 3/4" x 12" mahogany clamp board. The motor well was suppose to stiffen the laminate, but I put a bigger motor on and didn't do a great job on tying the transom to the motor well. On the new transom, I laminated two 3/4" layers of okoume together, which cover the entire transom and tie directly into the stringers. I then eliminated the motor well and boxed in the whole rear compartment with two longitudinal bulkheads laminated to the inboard stringers and a horizontal bulkhead which is cleated to the top of the stringers and filited between the rear bulkhead and the transom. Knock on wood, but I think it should be plenty strong at this point.



My plan calls for triple 6mm for the transom and it is tied into the stringers. No rear deck but I have a couple other ideas that will assist on strengthening. Thank yíall for the firsthand input and advice!



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Brazos Hunter 12-18-2019 02:40 PM

The replacement Okoume arrived safe and sound today! Now I just need time off.


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K_Wittenburg 12-18-2019 03:40 PM

Awesome they resolved the damage in transit issue!

Bluedevil 12-18-2019 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by timoub007 (Post 14584642)
BTW Bluedevil your one pic looks awesome. I really want to build the 22' Phantom but do not have the time like I did 15 years ago.

Got a link to a build thread or some more pictures?

T

I wish I did a build thread, but I didn't think to do it as I went. I have the boat in NE Houston if you ever want to take a look when your in the area.

Brazos Hunter 12-18-2019 05:19 PM

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I wish I did a build thread, but I didn't think to do it as I went. I have the boat in NE Houston if you ever want to take a look when your in the area.



Thank you sir! I will have GoProís setup taking time lapse pics and occasionally we will shoot video. The thing I believe I will enjoy most (other than the boat) is reflecting back on the journal I am keeping years from now. I am documenting every step, mistakes, and obstacles along the way.



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Brazos Hunter 12-18-2019 05:22 PM

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Awesome they resolved the damage in transit issue!



Yessir, they did me right and every day touched base with me. Today, I received no less than a half dozen emails and phone calls from the distributor. I am very impressed with BBC!



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Bowyer 12-20-2019 09:48 AM

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I will say this, on the Salt Boatworks site and Bateau (Boat Builders Central) site they say a skiff this size can be built for $1,200-$1,500. That very well could be true if you do not want things like paint or a motor. I will not post what we already have in it prior to starting but I will say I pasted those amounts some time back.



Michael

Hey I started building a Flats Skiff in September!
You are right about the cost. My boat is a 14' and it appears that when completed it'll cost a little over twice those numbers.
I look forward to seeing your progress.
I plan to post mine when I'm finished, probably this coming spring.

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Brazos Hunter 12-20-2019 09:56 AM

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Hey I started building a Flats Skiff in September!
You are right about the cost. My boat is a 14' and it appears that when completed it'll cost a little over twice those numbers.
I look forward to seeing your progress.
I plan to post mine when I'm finished, probably this coming spring.

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Which one are you building? Would like to hear more about it!



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Briar Friar 12-20-2019 10:06 AM

Good luck on the build Mr BrazosHunter.

You might consider adding a bit more slope to that tile shower shelf.

Bowyer 12-20-2019 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brazos Hunter (Post 14589891)
Which one are you building? Would like to hear more about it!



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I didn't buy the plans, instead I elected to make it up as I go but it will be very similar to the FS14.
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Brazos Hunter 12-20-2019 12:18 PM

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I didn't buy the plans, instead I elected to make it up as I go but it will be very similar to the FS14.
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That will be pretty slick!



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Brazos Hunter 12-20-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Briar Friar (Post 14589926)
Good luck on the build Mr BrazosHunter.

You might consider adding a bit more slope to that tile shower shelf.



There is a couple degree slope and water does drain out. Itís getting closer to completion!

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Brazos Hunter 01-19-2020 09:29 AM

Well, it took MUCH longer than anticipated but the bathroom makeover is complete! Tuesday I will finally start on the boat build!


Michael
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Texas Grown 01-19-2020 10:41 AM

Great job on the bath Michael! :)

Brazos Hunter 01-19-2020 12:01 PM

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Great job on the bath Michael! :)



Thank you! Itís almost hard to remember what I started with after removing everything that needed replaced/addressed.

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Brazos Hunter 01-21-2020 03:44 PM

Well, I FINALLY started!!!

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Brazos Hunter 01-21-2020 04:57 PM

One sheet down, five to go!

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Evananders 01-22-2020 03:51 PM

I’m tuned into this. I bought a square stern canoe and 5hp propane powered engine, and it’s just not wide enough to fish comfortably. Will probably sell the 5hp and keep to canoe to knock around in no-motor zones.

Brazos Hunter 01-24-2020 02:58 PM

I knocked out a couple more pieces day before yesterday and have the last sheet before scarphing laid out yesterday. If all goes as planned I should scarph all the joints a week from today then begin stitching it together shortly thereafter.



Michael

Brazos Hunter 01-27-2020 08:25 AM

I’m back at it this morning. Cutting out more patterns and hopefully will be ready to scarph the joints this afternoon.

Michael

Brazos Hunter 01-28-2020 03:42 PM

All scarph joints have been cut and assembly of the pieces (scarphing) has began!



Michael

Brazos Hunter 01-29-2020 11:29 AM

DIY flats skiff
 
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Making progress!

Brazos Hunter 01-29-2020 11:56 AM

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Everything has been cut

Scarph cuts have been made
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Started putting sharp joints together clamping mirror images together with plastic wrap between.
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Brazos Hunter 01-29-2020 03:34 PM

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Another scarph joint epoxied and drying. Slow and steady forward progress...

Michael

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Brazos Hunter 01-30-2020 09:13 AM

I messed up and left the epoxy in the shop overnight and had to bring it in the house to warm up. After that, I will get back after it. Just three pieces left to scarph together then I can start assembly!!!


Michael

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Brazos Hunter 01-30-2020 02:33 PM

I went ahead and epoxied the last scarph joint. Soon I can start assembly!!!

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