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    Advice on 2wd vs 4wd 65hp tractor w/ loader

    I’m looking to buy another tractor. I’ve been shopping for about a month now. At this moment, I have 2 that I like. One is a newer 2020 JD 4x4 5075E w/256 hours. This is a 75HP tractor with a loader. It’s $38K out the door. The other tractor is a older (but super clean) JD 5303 64HP 2wd w/ a loader. This tractor is $21K. So obviously a pretty significant price difference, considering. The newer tractor has emissions/DEF. The older tractor doesn’t. So what I’m asking is how much do you “need” a 4x4 tractor? Thats what everyone says to get, but do you actually find yourself using it? I’ve never owned a 4x4 tractor and I’ve only been stuck 2 times that I can remember. Now, I didn’t drive into stuff I knew I shouldn’t either. I don’t mind spending the extra money, but I just don’t think I’m going to constantly find myself in “stranded” situations if I don’t have a 4x4. A 64Hp with fluid in the rear tires as plenty of traction.
    I’ll be pulling a 7ft brush hog, a 6ft disc, occasionally an auger.

    Let’s hear some opinions please.
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    #2
    In your situation I wouldn’t hesitate to get the 2wd. Especially since it doesn’t use def.

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      #3
      I was told and have witnessed personally a couple of time that with a 2 wd loading the fe loader can be frustrating.

      with a really big bite, the rear wheels get light and lose traction.

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        #4
        Mowing plowing or pulling implements a 2 wd tractor usually is just fine.Doing any kind of dirt work,lifting,grading or clearing is quite cumbersome.I would definitely look for a low hour tractor without emission system.Or a newer one with a warranty on the emission system.My Kubotas been in the shop 5 times for emission problems the average cost to warranty has been $7,000 each time.

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          #5
          Originally posted by RedBear78 View Post
          Mowing plowing or pulling implements a 2 wd tractor usually is just fine.Doing any kind of dirt work,lifting,grading or clearing is quite cumbersome.I would definitely look for a low hour tractor without emission system.Or a newer one with a warranty on the emission system.My Kubotas been in the shop 5 times for emission problems the average cost to warranty has been $7,000 each time.
          Holy ****!
          Well, so much for buying a new tractor…

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            #6
            Originally posted by RedBear78 View Post
            Mowing plowing or pulling implements a 2 wd tractor usually is just fine.Doing any kind of dirt work,lifting,grading or clearing is quite cumbersome.I would definitely look for a low hour tractor without emission system.Or a newer one with a warranty on the emission system.My Kubotas been in the shop 5 times for emission problems the average cost to warranty has been $7,000 each time.
            I would love a big new tractor, but this right here is what worries me the most. I know on the older stuff I can fix pretty much all of it myself. The new stuff with all the emissions, plus JD and their secret software…..the average wrench turner can’t do much of anything.

            Also….what to y’all consider “low hours” on a tractor? I see them from 100 hrs all the way up to 10,000 hrs on the bigger stuff.

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              #7
              IMO, for farming, you dont need 4x4. For everything else, you still dont need it. As you said, you've been stuck twice in your life. We used 55, 60, 70, 100, and 110hp tractors for everything, and none were 4×4.

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                #8
                If you going to be doing any dirt or Deerlease work at all get the 4x4.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by hpdrifter View Post
                  I was told and have witnessed personally a couple of time that with a 2 wd loading the fe loader can be frustrating.

                  with a really big bite, the rear wheels get light and lose traction.
                  It's not frustrating if you are an operator. If you take a really big bite find someone who knows how to operate a tractor. 4WD won't solve that problem.

                  Here's what a lot of people don't understand. Weight of the machine makes a big difference. Tractors are built lighter than they were in the past. That's why 4WD is almost a necessity in new tractors. Older heavier tractors with ballast in the rear tires along with a set of wheel weights perform just a well as a 4WD. I own both and don't see a big advantage with the 4WD.

                  DEF is the devil. Especially in something that isn't used on an almost daily basis.

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                    #10
                    The OP has a skidsteer.

                    I think he's covered on bucket work

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by M16 View Post
                      In your situation I wouldn’t hesitate to get the 2wd. Especially since it doesn’t use def.
                      agreed

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                        #12
                        If loader work isn't a high priority, go 2wd. If it's too wet/boggy for 2wd, it'll be too wet to plow or mow anyway without making a mess...and post augers don't care whether it's a 2wd or 4wd...And 4 wd gets stuck too..in fact, stucker, if that's a word...

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                          #13
                          I appreciate all the opinions and advice.

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                            #14
                            If you size your tractor for the worse case job you intend to do with it, then a 2-wheel drive is OK. However you can do a lot bigger job with a lot smaller tractor if it is a 4-wheel drive... If you are going to be working in close quarters (in the woods, around buildings, other physical barriers, a 4-wheel drive tractor in a smaller frame size is an advantage... If you're working in the wide open such as plowing mowing in pastures, then that 2-wheel drive in a larger frame will be just fine. The deal is being able to put the horsepower the tractor has the ability to deliver into the work you need done. You can put more horsepower on the ground with all 4 wheels working and you can turn it/maneuver it in closer quarters with smaller frame size/lower horsepower 4-wheel drive tractor...

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                              #15
                              4 wheel drive all the way.... I have all kinds of combinations of tractors from small 2wd to large 2wd. Small 4wd and Large 4wd. Old heavy 2wd etc.

                              Literally the only reason i would consider buying another 2wd tractor is
                              Is one it would have to be a heck of a deal and it was cab and Ac because it would spend it life hooked to a hay cutter and hay rakes thats it..... The hay field is literally the only place i wouldnt really want 4wd. But even then i find myself using 4wd all the time to load hay. We have hills and soft sand.

                              IMO i would keep shopping for a used 5075E that was 4wd. Call Sambo on here he works for noonday tractor and they have several of those tractors all the time.

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