Levi-Bowlife TV big deer Cactus Jack

[PondPopper]

If your sewer main is 90% plugged is it still considered unplugged and free flowing??? I call it greatly restricted and definitely not FREE FLOWING..

It's a game of words... Skullduggery... And it's just silly..

[ForEverlast]

Originally Posted by M16

Isn’t the place you hunt on in Texas high fenced on three sides? Granted there is a low fence ranch to the east but it has a high fence on its east side. You are totally high fenced on your north and west sides. So the only place deer could escape would be y’all’s south side?

No it is open to the south and to the east completely except for about 200 yards on the east but we have at least 10 miles of open fence and in fact the neighbors kill some of the deer we see and vice versa....FACTS brother and they are undisputed! or I would not be hunting there and for dang sure if it was high fence I would not call it low fence and if I wanted to enter into the TBGA or B&C or P&Y i can

[trophy8]

Originally Posted by M16

No. There was no high fence when we bought it.

So y’all knowingly surrounded the entire place with high fence. And you think it’s low fenced. Copy.


Quality entertainment I tell ya!

[Tom]

I recall this ranch when it was on the market and it was a high fenced ranch with two high fence pastures. On 4800 and one 2400 acres. maybe they knocked down one of the fences and left a pile of native deer with the "option" to stay or go. If I recall correctly, I am sure it the listing is still online. Not really sure what the big deal is anyway. He shot a deer on a 4800 acre ranch.

[wellingtontx]

Originally Posted by M16

Actually I have no fence on my west side. My buddy owns the property west of me. Technically I’m low fenced. But I couldn’t in good conscience say my deer are killed on low fenced property. I’m certainly wouldn’t enter one as low fence deer in a contest. I wouldn’t feel right cheating someone out of something they earned or deserved.

This ! Well said.

Generally could care less until a public, marketing figure is intellectually dishonest and misrepresenting matters to promote oneself, gain an unfair advantage or line pockets with more money.

Levi is running from reality and intentionally misleading folks. Based on how he handled the OP, he knows what he is trying to get away with. He should just own it.

[M16]

Originally Posted by ForEverlast

No it is open to the south and to the east completely except for about 200 yards on the east but we have at least 10 miles of open fence and in fact the neighbors kill some of the deer we see and vice versa....FACTS brother and they are undisputed! or I would not be hunting there and for dang sure if it was high fence I would not call it low fence and if I wanted to enter into the TBGA or B&C or P&Y i can

Try reading my post again. Here’s a fact for you. If your south fence between Myfie and John gets high fenced. You will be hunting totally high fenced property.

[M16]

Originally Posted by trophy8

So y’all knowingly surrounded the entire place with high fence. And you think it’s low fenced. Copy.


Quality entertainment I tell ya!

Reading comprehension is important. I never ever claimed any deer killed off my ranch as being low fenced. I probably technically could but don’t and don’t intend too.

[Tom]

I totally understand that a "hunting personality" does not want to get into the debate about pens. Even high-fenced 4800 acres is not small. It is the anti's that will see it as a canned hunt. Leave the dude alone. He has to show that he is a success to keep his brand rolling. Sad that hunters trash hunters, hunting legally by whatever means or methods.

[CarbonFlinger]

Originally Posted by Tom

I totally understand that a "hunting personality" does not want to get into the debate about pens. Even high-fenced 4800 acres is not small. It is the anti's that will see it as a canned hunt. Leave the dude alone. He has to show that he is a success to keep his brand rolling. Sad that hunters trash hunters, hunting legally by whatever means or methods.

This

[Death from Above]

Originally Posted by Tom

I totally understand that a "hunting personality" does not want to get into the debate about pens. Even high-fenced 4800 acres is not small. It is the anti's that will see it as a canned hunt. Leave the dude alone. He has to show that he is a success to keep his brand rolling. Sad that hunters trash hunters, hunting legally by whatever means or methods.

I dont this it is trashing the guy…many do not see what he is doing as hunting but rather shooting.

On all of these paid hunts, the work (hunting) is done by someone else. Not a knock, just way it has to be when you only have a short window on a piece of property.

I love to go shoot at First Point every chance I get lol

[diamond10x]

Originally Posted by Death from Above

I dont this it is trashing the guy…many do not see what he is doing as hunting but rather shooting.

On all of these paid hunts, the work (hunting) is done by someone else. Not a knock, just way it has to be when you only have a short window on a piece of property.

I love to go shoot at First Point every chance I get lol

Spot on. Anywhere you go in this country, even in TX, if you kill a good buck the perception is it was behind a high fence and it was a canned hunt. Heck most people, even a lot of texans, don't even know there is public land or anything other than high fenced pens.

I could care less where he killed the buck, it's a nice buck, but just be genuine about it and everything is all good. Even though I think high fences are absolutely cheating

[Notaguide]

Funny I saw his CJ post a couple of days ago and questioned to myself what many here have expressed with the legitimacy.

Two years ago I made a comment on his IG after someone asked if a TX deer he posted at that time was either low or high fence. It was probably a mid 150's deer but what caught my eye was the hill country oaks and vegetation in the background. I replied that in Texas most would assume its high fence unless otherwise stated given the scenario. Levi blew up on the comment saying he never has or ever will hunt fenced deer. I see he now clarifies low fence with his posts.

Not taking anything away from the guy. He's an incredible hunter, amazing competitive shooter, and has proven his self out West with some amazing kills no doubt. But.... most here know how hard to is to locate, hunt, and then actually accomplish something of this magnitude even on some of the best ranches in the state. Cable or Social media viewers will never know or care I guess.

[slayr]

More publicity for the Cactus Jack.
Mi say keep growing and keep shooting em, I like to see the pics!

[RINCON]

Originally Posted by ForEverlast

So I saw where he came down for the second year in a row and took a really nice buck on the CJ and posted to his instagram about his dream buck and the "lowfence" deer he had always dreamed of and of coarse on his post some guys posted that it is not low fence etc. and he fired back at them and I kinda summed it up that if Boone and Crockett, Pope & Young, and Texas Big game awards don't recognize it then it is likely not high fence...of which he quickly blocked and deleted my comment....the truth seems to hurt some folks and I could care less if you shoot a deer in a high fence or one that has had a tag but just call it what it is period don't try and make up some false claims about it just say it...I know that is most likely critical since most large sponsors wont allow TV shows to be filmed in high fences for obvious reasons as it is asking for trouble from activist groups but since now days we have to label deer as "pasture born" or whatever I am just tired of seeing people try and bend the rules for their narrative and it may just be me... regardless he shot a very nice buck scored 185" and it is a beautiful deer but just call it what it is !! Rant over good luck to everyone out their hunting and any harvest with a bow is a good one and well worth noting that!! Worth also noting he seems like a great guy hunts all over the country and I enjoy watching the show and to his defense he may not truly know the facts of the ranch that it had DMP at one time etc. ...Moving on

Interesting as you are also guilty of blocking and deleting post as well.

[RINCON]

Originally Posted by Tester

Their website sounds like they're Texas Big Game Awards "Low Fence" eligible:

Our track record for producing giant native white-tail is unmatched. The ranch has produced 16 bucks with gross B&C scores over 200" with the largest buck we have ever harvested breaking the 230" mark. And last season our top 18 bucks had an average score of 177" with one typical and one non-typical making the top 10 in the prestigious low fence, state-wide Texas Big Game Award program.

Intentionally lay down a fence just to be able to enter a deer in a low fence division. SMH…either small P or napoleon syndrome.

[Capt.Brown]

Why do y’all care??

[OrangeBlood]

Originally Posted by Capt.Brown

Why do y’all care??

People can't talk about Texas bowhunting on Texas Bowhunter website now? Why are you here?

[LeanMachine]

I understand both sides of the argument. If a deer has the option to vacate the property, I understand them calling it low fence. I think that is what they are defining it as, even though some or even the majority of the property is high fenced. I think full disclosure is the best policy. Most people, myself included, will naturally assume that there is not a high fence present anywhere if someone says a property is low fence. And I do not care either way. People just don't like feeling like they are being fed a load of crap.

[Throwin Darts]

Life is too short to care about what some hunter you don't know personally shoots or where he shoots it.

[Capt.Brown]

Originally Posted by Throwin Darts

Life is too short to care about what some hunter you don't know personally shoots or where he shoots it.

Yup!

[Drycreek3189]

I obviously am not familiar with the ranch y’all are talking about, but I used to hunt a place that was high fenced on the north side, and was broken up into “pastures” that had high fences on some of them. It was 16,000 acres and the deer could go where they wanted to except they couldn’t enter the high fenced leases or leave them. I never considered myself hunting a high fenced area.

I’m in the camp that doesn’t care if it’s high fenced or not, just don’t misrepresent it. I’ve hunted in a high fenced place considerably smaller than 4,800 acres but I considered it a grocery run, only shooting axis does. If I wanted to shoot a big deer really bad I wouldn’t let the fence stop me, but I’m not an antler hunter, I’m a meat hunter. To each his own !

[Big pig]

Originally Posted by flywise

Its Texas
No one in Texas or anywhere else in the country sees a 180+ deer killed in this state and thinks, that’s a hell of a native born and raised off mother natures bounty buck.
Sure there are a hand full of exceptions where a true native buck got old eating what nature provides and got past 170. It’s no surprise and can’t blame anyone for doubting the validity of any buck that big.

I was one of the blessed one many years ago
But now he wouldn't even be interesting in this age of fences and protein.

I liked Levis show. His recent antelope hunt / kill turned me off and not a fan anymore.

BTW that photo with the deer is not flattering to a 185” buck. And he looks mad.

[piercebronkite]

$19k for a 185 class buck.

[redfishted]

Originally Posted by piercebronkite

$19k for a 185 class buck.

That’s what it cost him?

[S-3 Ranch]

Originally Posted by redfishted

That’s what it cost him?

The price schedule

“” After this base fee, the price increases by $300 per inch, up to 160" B&C, based on the size of the deer you kill. These prices would follow as:
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145" B&C Class Buck ---> $4,000
150" B&C Class Buck ---> $5,500
155" B&C Class Buck ---> $7,000
160" B&C Class Buck ---> $8,500
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After 160" B&C, the price increases to $400 per inch based on the B&C score of the deer you kill. The prices would follow as:
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160" B&C Class Buck ---> $8,500
165" B&C Class Buck ---> $10,500
170" B&C Class Buck ---> $12,500
175" B&C Class Buck ---> $14,500
180" B&C Class Buck ---> $16,500
​
After 180" B&C, the price increases to $500 per inch based on the B&C score of the deer you kill. The prices would follow as:
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180" B&C Class Buck ---> $16,500
185" B&C Class Buck ---> $19,000
190" B&C Class Buck ---> $21,500
195" B&C Class Buck ---> $24,000
200" B&C Class Buck ---> $26,500
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*Drop tines will be billed at an extra $200 per inch. This fee will only be added to the total length of drop tine points. For instance, if a deer is a 160" class buck with 10" of drop tines, the total cost would be $10,500. This price would cover the $8,500 cost of a 160" buck (see above) and the extra $200 per inch fee assessed over the total 10" of drop tines creating a fee $2,000 and an overall cost of $10,500.*””

[HighwayHunter]

Originally Posted by dbpredator

Their website states it is a low fence native whitetail deer ranch,is it not?

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Native maybe. Low fence free range no. Not in the typical sense of the word.


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[slayr]

Anyone here can do the same thing….y’all sound like a bunch of junior high school girls arguing about who grew their boobs first.

[HighwayHunter]

I could care less if you hunt hf or not. For the most part deer are deer and a buck like the one Levi shot are hard to kill. That being said the old ranch listing when Wascom bought it advertises the ranch as high fenced into two pastures. It’s a high fence place, and you can’t put the deer into the book for a reason. It’s all a word game and advertising after that


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[bloodstick]

Originally Posted by redfishted

That’s what it cost him?

Not according to what i heard.
Idk how true it is, so take it with a grain if salt.

Spoke with a guy at the archery shop who said he was there last year when Levi killed another giant. Watched it from another blind with bino’s and had pics of them together on his phone.

Supposedly, Cactus Jack is “leased” by 4 or 5 other individuals with much deeper pockets than 99% of us. Owner of Swacker is one of those lease holders and he and Wascom invite Levi out every year. Its more publicity for everyone involved.

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[LeanMachine]

Originally Posted by bloodstick

Not according to what i heard.
Idk how true it is, so take it with a grain if salt.

Spoke with a guy at the archery shop who said he was there last year when Levi killed another giant. Watched it from another blind with bino’s and had pics of them together on his phone.

Supposedly, Cactus Jack is “leased” by 4 or 5 other individuals with much deeper pockets than 99% of us. Owner of Swacker is one of those lease holders and he and Wascom invite Levi out every year. Its more publicity for everyone involved.

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He thanked the owner of swacker for providing this hunt on this years episode. I assumed they just footed the bill but holding a lease would make sense as well.

[piercebronkite]

I doubt a guy like Levi handed over a check for this hunt, or any money at all. It's certainly paid through advertising and publicity for all hands involved.

I actually like Levi and have learned a lot from his Bow life videos. I don't care if its high fence or not. But one things for sure, when you see a price list like the one I posted you can bet your a&S that it's high fence.

[buck_wild]

Originally Posted by piercebronkite

I doubt a guy like Levi handed over a check for this hunt, or any money at all. It's certainly paid through advertising and publicity for all hands involved.

I actually like Levi and have learned a lot from his Bow life videos. I don't care if its high fence or not. But one things for sure, when you see a price list like the one I posted you can bet your a&S that it's high fence.

Actually when you get get deer over 170 on low fence, those deer are "worth more" than same bucks inside a high fence. Scarcity of LF 170+ is a high commodity.

[Hammerdown]

I guess I'm really out of the loop in the cool bow hunting world. I don't know who this Levi guy is and I don't know who CJ is. He!! I hardly ever wear camo.

[Hayek'sPupil]

Not that I care, but wouldn't it depend on who built the high fence? If the owners of Cactus Jack did not build the high fences, would they be correct in calling it a high fence ranch?

[LeanMachine]

Originally Posted by Hammerdown

I guess I'm really out of the loop in the cool bow hunting world. I don't know who this Levi guy is and I don't know who CJ is. He!! I hardly ever wear camo.

Just the greatest tournament archer of our time, or likely ever. 11 time world champ or something like that. Basically a nobody

[Hammerdown]

Originally Posted by LeanMachine

Just the greatest tournament archer of our time, or likely ever. 11 time world champ or something like that. Basically a nobody

Yeah I've Googled him since I posted that earlier. I think me and ole Levi are best friends now.

[Big pig]

On second thought . . .
I’m out of this

[flywise]

Originally Posted by Hammerdown

I guess I'm really out of the loop in the cool bow hunting world. I don't know who this Levi guy is and I don't know who CJ is. He!! I hardly ever wear camo.

I still don’t know who he is. If not for the reply to your post I’d never know who he is. Hope he’s a Good dude in general. Glad he has time to shoot tournaments all year and has wealthy friends. Life is 👍 lll