School me on the 6mm Creedmoor

[JuDGe]

Should I own one? Why?

[RR 314]

Originally Posted by JuDGe

Should I own one? Why?

(E) Not enough information.


Which platform? Application?

May make sense. . .may not.

[jaime1982]

Nah

[JuDGe]

(E) Not enough information.
Which platform? Application?
May make sense. . .may not.

Bolt gun for light hunting and varmints.

[68rustbucket]

.243?

[okrattler]

My buddy has a few of them. It'll get the job done for the application you're gonna use it for. That 87gr. V-Max smacks a coyote pretty good.

Should you own one? Sure, why not? That's the real question.

[JuDGe]

Originally Posted by 68rustbucket

.243?

Is there much difference?

[fish4food]

Originally Posted by JuDGe

Is there much difference?

Faster twist barrels in the 6 creedmore.
Otherwise no.

[Walker]

Verses a .243 the creed is a shorter, fatter case so you can load longer bullets farther out of the neck. If you don't need to do that then you don't need a 6mm creed.

[jaime1982]

Originally Posted by JuDGe

Is there much difference?

again, nah

[brokeno]

Depends what you already have

[JuDGe]

Originally Posted by brokeno

Depends what you already have

Don't have anything between a 223/5.56 and a 308.

[brokeno]

270.

[docmay]

I have one and love it. I wanted a rifle to shoot coyotes and such but also kill a deer if I wanted. It’s been deadly on whitetails and pigs. I don’t own a 243 so it’s a great cartridge for me.

[TX03RUBI]

It’s everything the 243 should’ve been. Ballisticslly it doesn’t offer anything over the 243. However it comes with faster twist barrels accepting heavier projectiles. In short it doesn’t offer anything over a custom 243 with fast twist barrel. However most people asking that question (and obviously answering) don’t have enough of an understanding to actually answer it. No knock on those asking. You’re obviously trying to learn.

[JuDGe]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

You’re obviously trying to learn.

Yes.

[trophy8]

Far superior off the shelf ammo than other 6mm offerings for LR work and speed for varmints. It’s here to stay. Is a great round that’s easy to load for. The 108 ELDM hammers small to medium critters. It’s low recoiling. Suppresses well. And is fairly easy to find. I’ve owned several. My daughter has one. We love it.

[jaime1982]

Originally Posted by trophy8

Far superior off the shelf ammo than other 6mm offerings for LR work and speed for varmints. It’s here to stay. Is a great round that’s easy to load for. The 108 ELDM hammers small to medium critters. It’s low recoiling. Suppresses well. And is fairly easy to find. I’ve owned several. My daughter has one. We love it.

Its not a bad round. Manbuns love it just for the name. fuds will say it wont do anything a .243 wont. Its like the .260/6.5CM battle.

[Jamvo]

I went to bass pro the other day for some 7mm rem mag ammo. They had one small spot with no ammo. The shelves were full of 6.5 creed and 300 black out. They had some 6 mm also. If these newer trendy rounds are going to get all of the shelf space they may be worth it in my opinion.

[PlanoDano]

There were plenty 6mm projectiles available through ammo shortage. It will stabilize 103, 105 gn. projectiles.

[Silentnight]

Originally Posted by trophy8

Far superior off the shelf ammo than other 6mm offerings for LR work and speed for varmints. It’s here to stay. Is a great round that’s easy to load for. The 108 ELDM hammers small to medium critters. It’s low recoiling. Suppresses well. And is fairly easy to find. I’ve owned several. My daughter has one. We love it.

I second this. I had a short 6cm built for my kids to shoot suppressed. It’s pretty much perfect for shooting the heavier bullets.
I used it to shoot a couple doe on Friday. One at 270yds the other at 290yds. There were 2 hits each, the bullet hitting them and them hitting the ground.

[Preacher Man]

Originally Posted by JuDGe

Don't have anything between a 223/5.56 and a 308.

A 25 would fit nicely in between those calibers. Nothing against the 6’s, I’m just a fan of the 25’s. Don’t care if it’s the 25-06, Bob, or Roy.

[Raider4044]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

It’s everything the 243 should’ve been. Ballisticslly it doesn’t offer anything over the 243. However it comes with faster twist barrels accepting heavier projectiles. In short it doesn’t offer anything over a custom 243 with fast twist barrel. However most people asking that question (and obviously answering) don’t have enough of an understanding to actually answer it. No knock on those asking. You’re obviously trying to learn.

^Good explanation of it here.

I’ve got two custom bolt guns chambered in 6 Creed and love them. One 18” and one 26”. The 18” is pretty much my go to hunting rifle and rides around in the pickup most the time. Absolutely hammers deer, pigs, and coyotes. It’s killed a few pigs past 500. Great caliber option for most Texas game and great for younger shooters as well.

Another plus is that 6 Creed was one of the few calibers that factory ammo was still pretty readily available throughout Covid.


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[trophy8]

Originally Posted by jaime1982

Its not a bad round. Manbuns love it just for the name. fuds will say it wont do anything a .243 wont. Its like the .260/6.5CM battle.

I’ve hated the 6.5 creed hype from the start. The 260 is the same. You know this. The marketing department at Hornady is world class lol. And the big boys back them. Hence the 6 creed 6.5 creed PRC line up. I DO like the 6 creed. Do not care for the 6.5 lol

[Big pig]

Originally Posted by trophy8

I’ve hated the 6.5 creed hype from the start. The 260 is the same. You know this. The marketing department at Hornady is world class lol. And the big boys back them. Hence the 6 creed 6.5 creed PRC line up. I DO like the 6 creed. Do not care for the 6.5 lol

.260 IS the same as 6.5. But REM screwed that up with limited offerings of rifles and ammo. Especially ammo. My early model 7 was worst shooting I have ever owned. This old Elmer Fudd loves his two 6.5 creeds for deer and pigs. Especially suppressed.

I own a couple .243’s and ammo already, so I won’t be buying a 6mm creed
But if I was looking to fill that gap (.223/.308) I would have consider one given the ammo is available. Especially for my wife and daughter.

[Ksig512]

Do you carry an ie.. purse or man satchel or wear flippy floppies while sporting a man bun? The last two do not have to be worn together. If you answered yes , you need a 6.5 creed.

[BLACKFINTURKEY]

It’s a 243.. or a 6.5creed necked down to 243.

Typical rifles will be twisted faster to stabilize heavy bullets. Otherwise it’s a slightly less powerful 243.

[Walker]

Originally Posted by Ksig512

Do you carry an ie.. purse or man satchel or wear flippy floppies while sporting a man bun? The last two do not have to be worn together. If you answered yes , you need a 6.5 creed.

I wear floppy floppies 365. Socks when it's cold.

[JuDGe]

Originally Posted by Ksig512

Do you carry an ie.. purse or man satchel or wear flippy floppies while sporting a man bun? The last two do not have to be worn together. If you answered yes , you need a 6.5 creed.

Haha! Looks like I don’t qualify for a 6.5

[Big pig]

Originally Posted by Ksig512

Do you carry an ie.. purse or man satchel or wear flippy floppies while sporting a man bun? The last two do not have to be worn together. If you answered yes , you need a 6.5 creed.

Pretty funny. Working in my bun now. Harder when you are balding.

What’s your favorite “midsize” round? Mine has been .270 with 130’s for past 20 years.

[mkk]

I built a fast twist .243 to shoot the heavier bullets because I already had the brass and dies.

If you reload, the 6mm variants are a great choice for a mid rifle that’s good for target and hunting

I say you deserve one!!!!!


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[TX03RUBI]

Originally Posted by jaime1982

Its not a bad round. Manbuns love it just for the name. fuds will say it wont do anything a .243 wont. Its like the .260/6.5CM battle.

It’s basically a readily available fast twist 243. It won’t do anything an 8 twist 243 won’t, but it’ll do a lot of things better than a 10 twist 243.

[Txarrowhunter]

Off shelf ammo is enough reason to own one. Inherently accurate. 4 out of 6 gun stores I went to this past week had 6mm creed on the shelf. Did I mention it shoots small torpedos and kills deer exceptionally well?

[buckhunter1999]

6mm creed is a great round. Enough power for any native game in Texas and small enough to not blow varmints apart. Not to mention the TONS of shelf availability. Pretty sweet caliber to hunt and plink steel with.

[muzzlebrake]

I had a .244 Rem once. Very good accuracy til the barrel got hot and fun to shoot. Kilt a few yotes and a bunch of p-dog at distance. I would zing a 60gr pill out to 3900 fps from my hand loads and vaporize P-dogs at 400 yds IF I could hit them

[Old Bald Guy]

Funny that most love the 6mm Creed but badmouth the 6.5.
Load both with a good 100 gr hunting bullet and the 6.5 out runs the 6 by 200 fps. Same as the .260 load a 100 gr Partition or TTSX in it and it’s a bad mofo. Good 100 gr bullet will kill anything we have - no need to use 2 lb bullets in cases that don’t hold enough powder to push em.

[TX03RUBI]

Originally Posted by Old Bald Guy

Funny that most love the 6mm Creed but badmouth the 6.5.
Load both with a good 100 gr hunting bullet and the 6.5 out runs the 6 by 200 fps. Same as the .260 load a 100 gr Partition or TTSX in it and it’s a bad mofo. Good 100 gr bullet will kill anything we have - no need to use 2 lb bullets in cases that don’t hold enough powder to push em.

I’d like to see you push that 100 gr 6.5 to 1500+ consistently

[Txarrowhunter]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

I’d like to see you push that 100 gr 6.5 to 1500+ consistently

Whoops!

[Old Bald Guy]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

I’d like to see you push that 100 gr 6.5 to 1500+ consistently

Not everyone is a wannabe sniper. Some of us hunt.

[trophy8]

Originally Posted by Old Bald Guy

Funny that most love the 6mm Creed but badmouth the 6.5.
Load both with a good 100 gr hunting bullet and the 6.5 out runs the 6 by 200 fps. Same as the .260 load a 100 gr Partition or TTSX in it and it’s a bad mofo. Good 100 gr bullet will kill anything we have - no need to use 2 lb bullets in cases that don’t hold enough powder to push em.

We aren’t talking about just shooting deer. Compare the BC on what you are saying. The 6.5 creed is too slow for what it’s pushing. The 6 creed does great. Keep in mind there’s several on this thread that have shot out past a mile. They might know a thing or two. It doesn’t take much to kill a deer at a couple hundred yards.
If we want to compare hunting guns then let’s just slap a 300 win mag launching a 180 accubond and end that discussion lol. It goes on and on. The 6 creed does what it was intended to do very well. It wasn’t marketed as a hunting gun. But I’ve shot plenty with one and it does great.

[TX03RUBI]

Originally Posted by Old Bald Guy

Not everyone is a wannabe sniper. Some of us hunt.

I’ve stacked more bodies in a night with a 6 Creed than you will all season. Try again old bald guy.

[Raider4044]

Originally Posted by Old Bald Guy

Funny that most love the 6mm Creed but badmouth the 6.5.
Load both with a good 100 gr hunting bullet and the 6.5 out runs the 6 by 200 fps. Same as the .260 load a 100 gr Partition or TTSX in it and it’s a bad mofo. Good 100 gr bullet will kill anything we have - no need to use 2 lb bullets in cases that don’t hold enough powder to push em.

You obviously have very little understanding of how Ballistic Coefficients work.


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[Raider4044]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

I’ve stacked more bodies in a night with a 6 Creed than you will all season. Try again old bald guy.

Lmao


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[sierracharlie338]

Sniper = hunter of men

So, samesies


Sierracharlie out....

[trophy8]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

I’ve stacked more bodies in a night with a 6 Creed than you will all season. Try again old bald guy.

Lmao! Pancho for the win!

[Old Bald Guy]

Originally Posted by Raider4044

You obviously have very little understanding of how Ballistic Coefficients work.


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Ok. So show me how-in the 50-400 yd range that 99% of hogs and deer are killed at- how a 6mm 100 gr bullet @ 3,000 fps will out perform a 6.5mm 100 gr bullet @ 3,200 fps.

[Old Bald Guy]

Originally Posted by trophy8

We aren’t talking about just shooting deer. Compare the BC on what you are saying. The 6.5 creed is too slow for what it’s pushing. The 6 creed does great. Keep in mind there’s several on this thread that have shot out past a mile. They might know a thing or two. It doesn’t take much to kill a deer at a couple hundred yards.
If we want to compare hunting guns then let’s just slap a 300 win mag launching a 180 accubond and end that discussion lol. It goes on and on. The 6 creed does what it was intended to do very well. It wasn’t marketed as a hunting gun. But I’ve shot plenty with one and it does great.

I’m sorry. Since there are a whole bunch of posts on this thread about using the 6mm Creed for hunting i assumed some did. Since shooting deer/pigs doesn’t normally happen at 1,500 yards how well a bullet performs at that range is moot.
Not knocking the 6mm Creed at all just pointing out the fact that with the same weight bullet, in normal hunting range the 6.5 Creed out performs it.

[Old Bald Guy]

Originally Posted by TX03RUBI

I’ve stacked more bodies in a night with a 6 Creed than you will all season. Try again old bald guy.

Maybe or maybe not. Been a bunch of deer and hogs killed around here in the last 10 years or so with 6.5 mm 100 gr Partitions.
How many of those “bodies” that you’ve stacked were at 1,000-1,500 yards?

[Old Bald Guy]

Originally Posted by trophy8

The 6.5 creed is too slow for what it’s pushing.

That is exactly what I’ve said from the day the 6.5 Creed came out. That case don’t have enough azz to push those 145+ gr bullets fast enough to shoot flat in normal hunting range. It will push a 100 gr just fine though. For hunters it matters not if the heavier bullets hold up better at 1,000 yards cause shooting deer at that range is a good way to feed the buzzards.

[cva34]

243 win simply because of ammo avability.... if ya roll your own then???