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Old 10-13-2021, 06:57 AM   #1
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Iím looking to buy one of these. Tired doing it by scoop and trickler on a digital scale. Would an auto charge dispenser be quicker or more efficient? Help enlighten me on the pros and cons and what brand and model would be best. I mainly load rifle rounds on a single stage press so being .1 grain accurate is key for me.
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Old 10-13-2021, 07:36 AM   #2
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RCBS Chargemaster is a pretty solid unit and not overly expensive.
A step up would be the RCBS Matchmaster. Weighs to .04gr pretty fast.
Step up from this would be A&D FX120i with Autotrickler setup from Adam. Weighs fast amd consistent to a single grain of powder or .02gr.
If you want the best of the best, you’re looking for a Prometheus but sit down when you look at the cost��
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Old 10-13-2021, 07:38 AM   #3
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I use a cheap lee precision perfect powder dispenser and a very small scoop on my setup. I pull the handle to throw the charge +/- 0.2 gn into a powder dish, onto the digital scale and quickly adjust the couple sticks of powder from a separate powder dish to get it exact. I load to the stick (~0.04 gn). It is usually close enough that I can quickly calculate, for example, that I need to add 2 sticks or remove 3 sticks.

I personally do not like the trickler for +/- 0.1 or less. I have one, but it is not used for my rifle rounds. I find it time consuming.

I think this method is quite a bit faster than scooping and measuring, scooping and measuring.... and it only costs like $25.
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:02 AM   #4
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RCBS Chargemaster is a good product. It can also be programmed to throw a lot faster than default settings. Works best when set on a solid perfectly level surface and calibrated before each use. Also turn it on and let it warm up a few minutes before throwing a charge. Adding the dairy queen straw bushing inside the outlet of the throw tube keeps it from overthrowing at the last tenth of a grain. Plenty of info on re programming and adding the bushing on youtube.
I'm not sure how old mine is but I'm pretty sure I've had it more than 20 years.
Thousands of rounds and still accurate to the exact charge I input.
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:07 AM   #5
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I have used the RCBS Chargemaster for about 15 years. It took the tedium out of loading for me. Puttingt a drinking straw in the dispenser tube stopped the few overcharges I was getting initially. The scale goes down to .1 grain. This is good enough for me. one granule of stick powder will usually change the scale by .1 grain. Unless I start dissenting powder grains that's about as close as I need.
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:07 AM   #6
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RCBS chargemaster mods and programming

https://youtu.be/p-DRJCL0D3A
https://youtu.be/L25ztwRyyRo?t=476
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:08 AM   #7
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That all depends on your budget, what is your budget? I have 2 V3 Autotricklers and their flawless and fast but if you can’t swing those and don’t want to wait months to receive one the RCBS Match is the second best option and readily available but it all depends on your budget, I have an older RCBS powder dispenser and it works ok as well but thr slow, not as accurate and if you don’t do an initial powder drop take forever to load 100 rounds.

As is everything in life it depends on your budget and the time you want to spend doing it,

I have 2 new V4’s on order and I’ll be selling my V3’s with the 419 kits once I receive them if your interested shoot me a pm.
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Old 10-13-2021, 07:09 PM   #8
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Iíve heard a lot of really good things about the new Hornady auto trickler. Price looks good might be worth a look


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Old 10-13-2021, 07:20 PM   #9
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Normally use a Lyman, works great. Just used the new to me RCBS Chargemaster 1500 this morning; very nice. I like it better than the Lyman.
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Old 10-13-2021, 07:50 PM   #10
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I have an RCBS charge master. I didn't like it at first because it was too slow. I did the hack on it and made a insert on my lathe. It finishes before I can seat a bullet so no waiting. I'm not so sure my shooting ability can tell the difference in a load with less than one tenth more or less grains of powder. For those gifted enough to make a difference nothing wrong with spending the money for a unit that will do the job.
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:07 PM   #11
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Great information gentlemen. I am no match shooter but would like to be .1 grain precise in loading. Main reason is to take the tedious scoop, weigh out of the charge throwing.
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:25 PM   #12
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Great information gentlemen. I am no match shooter but would like to be .1 grain precise in loading. Main reason is to take the tedious scoop, weigh out of the charge throwing.

Chargemaster 1500 will do what you want.


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Old 10-14-2021, 06:37 AM   #13
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I use the Chargemaster lite for my rifle loads. Most pistol loads are done on the progressive, so no need there. I do load the defense pistol (147 Gold Dots over Bullseye) singly to be sure. That sucks on the dispenser, given the low weight of powder. It basically trickles the entire load.
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Old 10-14-2021, 09:35 AM   #14
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My RCBS Chargemaster 1500 has been good to me thus far.


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i'll throw my 2c ... i have a lyman i've had for years , so much so you can't even read what the buttons are .. lucky i know how to operate it well . if i was to buy another one now i'd be looking at one that has 2 tubes ... one for course speed throw , the other for precise trickling. my existing scale has a single tube and sometimes it overshoots the target, so i put in just under and trickle up to my desired load ... with 2 tubes it mitigates those types of issues ... i put a restrictor in mine , but that has slowed down the overall process ...

so aside from precision (which is still the most important factor to me), the design of a second trickle tube is the most appealing feature i'll be looking for in my next purchase.
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I use the RCBS Chargemaster as well. It is slow particularly if you are trying to get precise loads. I loaded 40 or so rounds a few weeks ago and I bet it dispensed 80 times. I am constantly having to pour the powder back in and re dispense as it would go a grain or two over.
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I use the RCBS Chargemaster as well. It is slow particularly if you are trying to get precise loads. I loaded 40 or so rounds a few weeks ago and I bet it dispensed 80 times. I am constantly having to pour the powder back in and re dispense as it would go a grain or two over.
Just do the hack and re programming I posted links to. Post #6. Add the plastic straw bushing too. Google it! The mods will cut the throw time in half or faster and be much more precise.
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RCBS Chargemaster is a good product. It can also be programmed to throw a lot faster than default settings. Works best when set on a solid perfectly level surface and calibrated before each use. Also turn it on and let it warm up a few minutes before throwing a charge. Adding the dairy queen straw bushing inside the outlet of the throw tube keeps it from overthrowing at the last tenth of a grain. Plenty of info on re programming and adding the bushing on youtube.
I'm not sure how old mine is but I'm pretty sure I've had it more than 20 years.
Thousands of rounds and still accurate to the exact charge I input.
This ! Thereís a guy on the THF who turns out brass bushings to take the place of the soda straw. It makes a good machine even better. I almost always weigh each charge after the Chargemaster throws them, but Iím OCD that way for rifle rounds. My plinking stuff for revolvers I might weigh every tenth charge. Itís always on.
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Just do the hack and re programming I posted links to. Post #6. Add the plastic straw bushing too. Google it! The mods will cut the throw time in half or faster and be much more precise.
Good stuff, appreciate the info muzzlebrake!
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