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Old 10-26-2020, 07:24 PM   #1
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I have one. Use it sparingly. Yesterday it worked fine. Today the pilot started blowing out when I fired it up on low. Now the pilotvwont even stay lit. Had to replace a part a couple years ago. I guess I'll have to replace something else. Dang thing.

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Old 10-26-2020, 07:26 PM   #2
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Start it on high and give it a minute. also clean the tip of the thermacouple.
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Now the pilot will work alone but when it turns on it like it is blowing out gas out the pilot hole too fast to stay lit.

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Old 10-26-2020, 08:39 PM   #4
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Now the pilot will work alone but when it turns on it like it is blowing out gas out the pilot hole too fast to stay lit.

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So pilot will stay lit without depressing the knob? If it will take a piece of finishing line and feed it all through the gas system and or keep a jet lighter on the thermocouple and pilot to keep it going


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Old 10-26-2020, 08:54 PM   #5
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Full tank? Mine if tank gets low will be finicky like that.


Sure miss those days of being able to hunt a lease for a nominal cost that didnít create greed and a feeling of despair if you didnít kill something!
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Old 10-26-2020, 08:56 PM   #6
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Ask Smart about rebuilding/cleaning them.
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Old 10-26-2020, 08:59 PM   #7
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I was looking into getting one of those heaters
have you had trouble with them before?
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Old 10-26-2020, 09:06 PM   #8
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I have the “hunting” version. My wife doesn’t like to get cold, so it’s on high 99% of the time; it doesn’t make noise. It does make that noise when the bottle gets low on the low setting.
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Old 10-26-2020, 09:07 PM   #9
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I was looking into getting one of those heaters
have you had trouble with them before?

Bout the worst is a spider crawling into the tubes if you leave it in your stand. Maybe the occasional igniter after 7-8 years but nothing hard or expensive to fix


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Old 10-26-2020, 09:10 PM   #10
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Thereís a new model out that I gonna look at. Puts out heat in 180į instead of just straight forward.


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Old 10-26-2020, 09:22 PM   #11
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Thereís a new model out that I gonna look at. Puts out heat in 180į instead of just straight forward.


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Interested... not crazy about the depth, but I may go ahead and order that momma bear.


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The pilot was finicky when I finally quit jacking with it. Full bottle. Smart helped me last time. POC product.

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Old 10-26-2020, 10:46 PM   #13
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I just chunkem in the dumpster and go to tsc and grap another. If they last me 4-5 years I’m happy.
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Old 10-26-2020, 10:49 PM   #14
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Ask Smart about rebuilding/cleaning them.

This^^^
I sent him the thread
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Old 10-26-2020, 10:53 PM   #15
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It's been stored in a sealed container. Bugs/spiders shouldn't be an issue.

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Clean the thermocouple, and hit the entire pilot assembly with the air compressor.


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Old 10-26-2020, 11:04 PM   #17
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Clean the thermocouple, and hit the entire pilot assembly with the air compressor.


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I would start out with this...^ Have you ran a pipe cleaner in the pilot hole and turned upside down yet? Dang spiders block those gas way and what you described happens a lot.



Remind me DRT....is this on a big tank or the standard small green tanks?
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Old 10-26-2020, 11:46 PM   #18
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Standard small green.
It worked fine yesterday. Today pita

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Old 10-26-2020, 11:47 PM   #19
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A blocked line I doubt. It's like the pilot is pushing so much gas it can't stay lit.

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Old 10-27-2020, 12:27 AM   #20
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A blocked line I doubt. It's like the pilot is pushing so much gas it can't stay lit.

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How strong is the pilot light? Is it nice and long and touching the thermocouple?

Will it stay out without pushing the dial down?

Sometimes something obstructs the line and makes the gas shoot out like a water hose nozzle does to a warehouse. You got to start eliminating the cheap stuff before you start diving off into buying parts ...
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:28 AM   #21
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I can run a fine wire down in it tomorrow. But it's been in a sealed up blind. No bugs or spiders.

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Old 10-27-2020, 12:39 AM   #22
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I can run a fine wire down in it tomorrow. But it's been in a sealed up blind. No bugs or spiders.

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Well then you jump into thermocouple replacement/cleaning, valve assemblies, defective top switch, or the possibility of your tank contaminating the line. With a green tank itís much less infrequent than the big tanks but it happens. Itís a real simple mechanism so that pretty much covers it

Is you pilot light strong and does it stay on after you let go out the knob?
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Old 10-27-2020, 12:40 AM   #23
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Thanx Jason. I'll have to bring it inside the house here and mess with it.

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Old 10-27-2020, 12:45 AM   #24
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Strong pilot light

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Old 10-27-2020, 12:46 AM   #25
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Breakdown of these heaters in pics at end.


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Old 10-27-2020, 12:49 AM   #26
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I canít imagine anything sending too much pressure to the pilot, other than a faulty regulator. In the rare case a regulator fails, they generally donít let enough pressure to work....

It sounds like a lean condition to me...which can really only occur in those things if itís got air in the lines, and that shouldnít last over a few seconds.

Is the flame blue, or yellow?


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Old 10-27-2020, 07:47 AM   #27
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I have had to blow out spiderweb inside of pilot tip.


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Old 10-27-2020, 04:51 PM   #28
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Well then you jump into thermocouple replacement/cleaning, valve assemblies, defective top switch, or the possibility of your tank contaminating the line. With a green tank itís much less infrequent than the big tanks but it happens. Itís a real simple mechanism so that pretty much covers it

Is you pilot light strong and does it stay on after you let go out the knob?
This is why they call him Smart.

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Pretty sure I need that in my life... i mean stand.
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Hahahhahaha what was the culprit?
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Hahahhahaha what was the culprit?
Well I ran a thin wire up it. Started up fine. Now doing the same thing.

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Well I ran a thin wire up it. Started up fine. Now doing the same thing.

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Same thing as in not working? When you ran the wire, did you turn it upside down and shake it to see if anything would fall out??
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Try to get some compressed air to that hole right there!


Thatís essentially the ODS, and anything over that hole or inside the assembly in that area can cause it to behave erratically.


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Old 10-27-2020, 05:37 PM   #34
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I was looking into getting one of those heaters
have you had trouble with them before?
I've had one for about 6 years and no problems.
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Old 10-27-2020, 05:39 PM   #35
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No but I left the pilot on to go get the turkey I just shot and put it with the pig I shot earlier. When I got back I flipped it to high, because I'm cold, and it fired right up.
Maybe it's possessed.

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Old 10-27-2020, 05:43 PM   #36
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Try to get some compressed air to that hole right there!


Thatís essentially the ODS, and anything over that hole or inside the assembly in that area can cause it to behave erratically.


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That's what you had me replace two years ago.

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Old 10-27-2020, 05:52 PM   #37
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Anyone fix an ignitor that won't spark? Mine pushes down and returns but doesn't make the clunk to produce a spark. It used to do it every now & then now doesn't at all just feels mushy.
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And now it shut itself off again.
Gremlins

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Old 10-27-2020, 06:10 PM   #39
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I would get another bottle of propane. That one you have may be dirty......
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Old 10-27-2020, 06:14 PM   #40
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New canister, same results.

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Old 10-27-2020, 06:32 PM   #41
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I'd have to have it in front of me....If its not a clog and if it shut off while rolling it could be a faulty thermocouple, a faulty tip switch or and faulty O2 sensor.



They all shut off the propane flow if the don't detect what they are there for.......ie. detect heat right (thermocouple), not sitting level (tip switch) or not enough oxygen in the air (02 sensor). I'm leaning towards the thermocouple because they are usually the most troublesome and most replaced. It is not uncommon for it to light and shut down because the heat screws with the connection. But that's just a guess not looking at it.



Is it sitting level?
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Old 10-27-2020, 07:21 PM   #42
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I 'm sure there are problems ..Had a couple over years.Been dependable
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Anyone fix an ignitor that won't spark? Mine pushes down and returns but doesn't make the clunk to produce a spark. It used to do it every now & then now doesn't at all just feels mushy.

I e never looked at one on a heater, but others Iíve seen in the past can get that way because the plastic nut on the back of it was not tight.


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I'd have to have it in front of me....If its not a clog and if it shut off while rolling it could be a faulty thermocouple, a faulty tip switch or and faulty O2 sensor.



They all shut off the propane flow if the don't detect what they are there for.......ie. detect heat right (thermocouple), not sitting level (tip switch) or not enough oxygen in the air (02 sensor). I'm leaning towards the thermocouple because they are usually the most troublesome and most replaced. It is not uncommon for it to light and shut down because the heat screws with the connection. But that's just a guess not looking at it.



Is it sitting level?
Yes it is level. If I let it set and cool completely off I can start the pilot, turn it to high and it will run 3 or 4 minutes the shut off and not want to reignite.

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Old 10-27-2020, 07:29 PM   #45
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I can order one.

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Old 10-27-2020, 09:55 PM   #46
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Hey I left it running on high with a window open when I went to get my cart. 300 yard walk and drive back and it was still running fine. Maybe the oxygen sensor is really sensitive.

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Hey I left it running on high with a window open when I went to get my cart. 300 yard walk and drive back and it was still running fine. Maybe the oxygen sensor is really sensitive.

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They can be....Folks talk about them going out in their ice shantys because of it. Did you have any windows open when you were running it earlier?
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Old 10-27-2020, 10:02 PM   #48
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No. I never run it long as a Krivoman heats up quickly. I will mess with it again tomorrow.

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Old 10-27-2020, 10:35 PM   #49
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I've had better luck with the Academy version of the Buddy heaters. I always try to have an Academy heater in the truck for back-up, and switch them out as need be. I do like everyone else has mentioned - fresh propane can, Q-tips/fine wire as well as compressed air to try and clear any possible path through the hoses.

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Old 10-27-2020, 10:39 PM   #50
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Sounds like it is an oxygen issue. I have one that will only run a couple minutes if I do not open the windows. The sensor is very sensitive
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