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Originally posted by Barrett View PostIm sure this is how you felt about Obama at this point in his presidency right???
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Originally posted by BrianL View PostThere are two sides. Ours dropped 300% because we had one person that was really sick.
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Originally posted by PlanoDano View PostHow many times have we covered this. There are some exceptions, such as a couple of things Nixon pulled, but for the most part economic cycles are not controlled by presidential politics. It doesn't stop them from taking credit or shedding blame. BTW Stock market charts above seem accurate.
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Originally posted by mwk128 View PostCan you define tanked? The stock market went up almost 150% while Obama was in office. I mean come on dude.
Well when it is in the tank like it was it had nowhere to go but up. It shows the resolve of the American economy in spite of his best efforts to cripple or at least stifle its growth.
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Originally posted by PlanoDano View PostHow many times have we covered this. There are some exceptions, such as a couple of things Nixon pulled, but for the most part economic cycles are not controlled by presidential politics. It doesn't stop them from taking credit or shedding blame. BTW Stock market charts above seem accurate.
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Originally posted by mwk128 View PostI pretty much agree with you. It’s frustrating when so many on this site (and our President himself) tout the stock market and employment gains as a rallying cry as to why he is so great when by most measures the economy under Obama was at least as good if not better. And yes, The Obama economy started in the crapper so there was pretty much nowhere to go but up, but using that line of thinking shouldn’t we blame Bush for driving it into the dirt? For the record, I believe fault for the 2008 crash goes at least back to the Clinton administration and possibly as far back as Reagan, so no I don’t blame Bush, at least not totally.
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Originally posted by mwk128 View PostI pretty much agree with you. It’s frustrating when so many on this site (and our President himself) tout the stock market and employment gains as a rallying cry as to why he is so great when by most measures the economy under Obama was at least as good if not better. And yes, The Obama economy started in the crapper so there was pretty much nowhere to go but up, but using that line of thinking shouldn’t we blame Bush for driving it into the dirt? For the record, I believe fault for the 2008 crash goes at least back to the Clinton administration and possibly as far back as Reagan, so no I don’t blame Bush, at least not totally.
I think the entire stance goes back to when Obama claimed Trump couldn't do any of this unless "he waved a magic wand." That was a jab, and I blame Trump 0% for wanting to bash the opposition over the top of their heads with the success. They all deserve every bit of it. So many dump on Trump for his rhetoric. But, after all the things that were said about him, continue to get said about him, and he proves the opposite, my rhetoric would be pretty dang salty too.
I don't worry about what the guy says, I worry about his actions. The quicker everyone gets out of their feelings and starts looking at the results, the better off we will all be for it. The guy isn't a politician and he never will be. Which is a lot of the reason he was elected. I'd much prefer the guy that is direct and tells me exactly how he feels vs. the guy that is nice to my face then stabs me in the back the moment I turn around. We've had wayyyy too much promising to do this, promising to do that, then doing absolutely nothing at all when they gain the ability to create change. People have had enough. They'll happily sacrifice some mean tweets and name calling to accomplish the goal. Even if they don't agree with the way the President talks sometimes, or a lot of the time.
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