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Old 08-14-2013, 08:29 AM   #1
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This is my first attempt at a fall food plot. I have planted pastures many times for my cows, but never really made a dedicated plot for deer. Finding a spot to put it was kind of a challenge becuase everything we have is accesible to cows. The only place that the cows cant get to, is the hay field. There is a little spot on the backside that we have never messed with. It's about an acre or so in size, maybe a little bigger, but is really unusable as far as hay goes. Sooo......

Sprayed with Gly 16 days ago. Disced yesterday. Gonna let it sit, and hopefully get a rain on it, and the drag the larger clumps down. Spray again if I have to. Plan to plant oats in early Oct, ahead of rain.

I dont have any pre-gly pics, but it was pretty useless looking. Full of johnson grass & thorn bushes. All that stood prior to discing was a few unruly palmettos..............all that stood after discing, was a few unruly palmettos..

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1. "Big 'Chevon"
2. Prior to discing. That is a new pipeline ROW in the foreground. Im going to include it too, if they ever get done. they are slooooowwwwwww.
3. Done. 2 passes. one at full offeset, one at min. offset. (pic taken fron the top of dirt pile in first pic)

will update as it progresses......
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:13 PM   #2
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Looks goods What are you going to plant?
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Old 08-14-2013, 02:54 PM   #3
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Oats. I might top it with some white clover, as some here have suggested.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:33 PM   #4
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I did oats last year and it turned out great.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:57 PM   #5
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Tear it up Phillip!
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:18 PM   #6
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Drug the plot yesterday to knock down the big clods. Ran over it a few times.....looks like its ready for seed now. We've been getting some good little showers lately. Hopefully they keep coming.

The boy helped a little, until he fell asleep.
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:27 PM   #7
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1. The finally finished the pipeline. First pic is crossing it.....dirt is pretty flat here.
2. My helper
3. My helper asleep & a little fun with tapatalk photo editor...

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Old 09-14-2013, 12:51 PM   #8
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Decided to fence my plot off to keep the pigs out, and the horses that sometimes graze the hay field in the winter.

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Also got the boy a load of sand to play in. He is pumped!
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Old 09-14-2013, 12:53 PM   #9
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:25 PM   #10
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good luck with it man, great pics of the little man, hope that rain comes and dont stop.
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Old 09-14-2013, 06:30 PM   #11
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I could a a actually use a little reprieve........need to cut some hay! But after that it can rain all it wants.
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:07 AM   #12
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Need some advise....

plot is 1 acre
I want to plant oats/turnips/clover

The dirt is black gumbo. When I get ready to plant, the seed bed will be drug smooth. I plan to broadcast 50lbs of Bob oats, then drag. Next I plant 5 lbs of turnips, then 5 lbs of clover, then Roll. My roller is 24" tinhorn filled with concrete, so its kinda acts like a cultipacker. Once the seeds germinate, and get a little green, I will fertilize.

What I am wondering is, are my ratios right? I dont want to plant too much seed....or is there such a thing?
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:30 AM   #13
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I think you might want to rethink your turnip ratio....I'm pretty sure if you plant 5 lb of turnips to 1 acre it will choke everything else out. I normally mix 1 lb to my oats when i plant about 5 ac. I usually just mix in the turnip seeds with my oats and broadcast everything at one time.
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Old 09-17-2013, 11:10 AM   #14
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Thats what I wanted to hear! Take me to school...
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:15 AM   #15
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Finally got the fence up last weekend. I should have planted it too, but I forgot to buy my oats when I was in town. Then Tuesday we get 3.5"!!! Oh well.....

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So yesterday evening it was dry enough to disc, so I decided to plant. Lightly disced, planted, drag, and then rolled.

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Old 10-05-2013, 08:26 AM   #17
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Today I'm going to sling my clover & turnips, roll, and call it good. The dirt has some moisture in it still, so hopefully that will help if we don't get rain right away. You can see it pickng up on the roller a little. I'm hoping we get a little with this front tonight though.

It's kinda frustrating dealing with this black gumbo, and then watching all you guys with nice sandy soil work your ground with an atv! That just ain't happenin' with the BG.
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:43 AM   #18
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Where are you at? You have the EXACT same soil and field growth as I do. Thorns and palmettos and black gumbo. I'm in magnolia on lake Creek. I was trying to finish tilling yesterday but that dang gumbo gummed me up. Gotta take a power washer an a crow bar or something to it today. Keep these pics and updates coming. I just picked up all my seeds yesterday. All the same as you except I've got some rye too. Would love to compare after they sprout up just to see what all works. Sorry to be long winded. Lookin good.
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:48 AM   #19
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Brazoria county......south west of Houston

If I woulda used the big disc, the I would be in the same boat as you !
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Just got clover & turnips out, rolling one last time
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This should help.

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I want a food plot bad next year.. But y'all are speaking Greek. Simple steps to turning grass field into plot?
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:46 AM   #23
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I want a food plot bad next year.. But y'all are speaking Greek. Simple steps to turning grass field into plot?
Depends on the tools you have available to you. There are many different ways to do it, and lots of threads here on different methods used in different parts of the state.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:58 AM   #24
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We pretty well frill in 100 lbs of oats per acre and fertilize if we get good germ. You get more rain than we do. I plant about 30 acres of food plots per year, and haven't gotten much bang for buck on turnips. They come up, but deer eat evrything else (even after frost) first. Oats far superior to wheat. I have planted in marked plots side by side. Clover is good in small plots without oats. I've gotten limited growth in oat plots. Also, I turn winter plots to spring before clover can seed out. I'm no expert but do feed a lot of deer.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:17 PM   #25
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Good luck, I hope every thing grows for you
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:22 PM   #26
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I got about 1/8" last Sunday . Checked it yest, and clover is only thing I could see sprouting. I'll be down there tomorrow baling hay, so I'll check it again , and take a few pics.
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good deal, looks great
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:39 AM   #28
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Cant wait to see how it turns out
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:25 PM   #29
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We have liftoff!!!

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Old 10-11-2013, 04:28 PM   #30
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:36 PM   #31
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Looks like you will get a stand. Nice thread.
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Looks good, congrats on the success... It's good to see good people working and having it pay of for them!!!
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:24 AM   #33
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View of hay field looking across a dry creek , from plot side. Ended up with 216 rolls.

You can see the matting that the pipeline "tree huggers" put in last week. They rutted up the easement just getting to it. They drove trucks down there instead of UTV's. It's gonna cost them more to repair the ruts, than they thought they where gonna save with this matting....lol



Another pic of the oats. I hope the deer will jump into the pen. I haven't had good luck with that so far. Maybe the greenery will do draw them in!

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Old 10-12-2013, 10:40 AM   #34
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Looks good!

The first year I planted oats when I bought my place they didn't eat it well and were not used to coming in to that plot to eat. They ate at night some but not much during the day. The next couple of years were better and better. Now they have had four years to get accustomed to feeding in that spot knowing there will be food in there and they hammer it pretty dang good.

One thing that has helped is I let everything grow up around it to give it privacy to make them feel secure coming in during daylight hours.

Keep up the good work and keep the updates coming!
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Old 10-12-2013, 01:43 PM   #35
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Thanks everyone.

I've been wanting to do this for several years, and really got inspired this year when I found Uncle's thread.

I plan to keep this thread rolling year after year.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:46 AM   #36
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Did a little plot protection last night.

We got 2" of rain yesterday. We got all the hay moved out of thee pasture, but I hauled the last load in the pouring rain! Glad we got it done too, cuz the ground is awfull spongy now.

It finally quit raining around 4 yesterday. I decided to go on a walk with my bow to see what was moving. This was around 6 pm. The plan was to walk from my plot to a feeder, which is down a ROW, with woods on both sides. BTW, the oats are twice what the last pic shows!!!

Anyway, I take off, and right away I hear pigs in the woods. I take a knee behind some tall palmettos. I go ahead and draw, becuase they are close! A nice sow steps out 5 yds from me, and stops briefely. She doesnt see me, but knew something wasnt right. She trots to 20 yds & thwack!!! Grimm Reaper buried to the fletch! She bolts & I knock another arrow as more pigs run out.

I come to full draw again just as another one stops. I quickly judge 30 yds, find the yellow pin, and send the arrow. Just as I release, she steps forward!! Elevation was perfect.....but too far back = Guts. Easy pass thru though. Arrow is nasty with a little blood.

As I am cleaning the dirty arrow off in a water puddle, I notice a big boar at the end of the ROW. He is easing over to the feeder. I snuck down to the feeder hoping for another shot, but he wasnt there. I think he was hiding out with plans to hit the feeder after dark.

I went home and ate a little dinner, and returned with my dog. Moose is 2 years old, and never been on a blood trail. I showed him the first bit of blood, and he seemed interested. I had a visual of blood the whole time, but I let him lead me. He slowly followed the trail all the way to the pig. I'm not real sure how far the pig ran, maybe 50 yds. The brush was thick, and there was no light, so what seemed like a long walk might not have been

One of my favorite parts of the whole experience was the reflective tape I had on my arrow. I picked up some DOT trailer reflective stickers from walmartz last year, and put some on an arrow. Let me tell you...that stuff picks up the light! I highly recommend the stuff for a low cost, easy way to find your arrows at night. I doubt I would have found it without the tape.

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The grimm reaper hit ribs dead on, on both sides! Busted thru them both, but didnt pass completely thru. Shot was a tad high, catching lungs, and most of the blood was sitting low in the chest cavity. When I got to the pig, lungs where sticking out the entrance hole! You can see it in the pics.....

Sorry if this was too long....It's my first recovered pig-bow kill. I was pretty exited last night!
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:02 AM   #37
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That is awesome. I remember several years ago finally recovering a pig a shot with my bow. Now that I aim lower on them, I find most of them.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:35 PM   #38
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very good... I put my oats in about 10 days ago... willl check on them later this week... I hope they look as good as yours do..... BTW the deer will jump that pen no problem...
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:46 AM   #39
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Caught some more piggys with their hands in the cookie jar last night.

Lit a burn pile off too
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Nice. Doing some good work!
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:47 PM   #41
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Did a quick drive by this evening .....feels awesome outside!









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Old 10-16-2013, 09:21 PM   #42
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Out of curiosity is it possible to kill all of those palmettos growing in your food plot? I don't know anything about them.
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:35 PM   #43
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Yes sir there is....
Back in the day about the only thing you could do was pour some diesel at the base of the plant. But about 5 years ago DuPont came out with a chemical called Cimmaron Max. This stuff works great. It's pricey though.

Also, you can't mow for a couple years once u start spraying. You have to give it time to work into the roots. Haven't mowed my place in 2 years, some parts 3.
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looking good!
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:31 PM   #45
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Looking good Phillip
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:12 AM   #46
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Maybe when everything freezes off they will want to jump in.

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Old 10-26-2013, 08:56 AM   #47
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Picked up 300# of triple 13 yesterday. Gonna get it out today, hopefully get a little wetness on it tomorrow.

Sittin in the blind right now, nice young 8 just came thru.

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Old 10-26-2013, 08:57 AM   #48
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Dang feeder didn't go off.......always something!!!
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Lol...you got that right!! Always something.

Good luck!!
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:34 PM   #50
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Wood hoooo!!! First deer I've seen in the patch! 1200 today.

Can u see her?

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