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Old 10-17-2019, 08:12 PM   #1
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Default Suggestions for arrow build for my setup

Been shooting for speed for years

Ready to change gears and add mass for increased penetration and quieter bow

Currently shooting 65#, 400 GT XT hunters cut to 25 3/8Ē with standard insert and 100gr head

Prefer to stay with 100gr head for now since I have a box full
Not opposed to adding a little length and adding either brass inserts or weights

May possibly increase draw to 70#

Letís hear some suggestions from the arrow gurus


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Old 10-17-2019, 08:36 PM   #2
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Love the Easton FMJ's for their penetration abilities. Not the heaviest arrow but very strong and great at transferring energy to the target or animal.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:51 PM   #3
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yep easton FMJs 340s and I have tired them all. the smaller diameter has less cross wind, and penetration thru bone, resistance.
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Old 10-17-2019, 08:57 PM   #4
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I shot the fmj and didnt like em. They flew straight and hit hard, but bent easily.

I've gone to beman whiteouts.. they are heavy-ish. Put 100g top hat inserts in, along with a 125g head.. foc monster.. hits hard and very accurate. Not to mention they look cool..

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Old 10-17-2019, 10:03 PM   #5
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I shoot gold tip velocity 300s I like the fact weights . If you buy the long allen wrench that goes with them you can add weight to see what shoots best..
I shot the fmjs but like mentioned I bent several so I gave the rest away . With the velosity you can get your foc up
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:10 AM   #6
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Would prefer to stay away from aluminum or micro diameter

Keep the suggestions coming, not changing until after season


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Old 10-18-2019, 09:16 AM   #7
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I shoot gold tip velocity 300s I like the fact weights . If you buy the long allen wrench that goes with them you can add weight to see what shoots best..
I shot the fmjs but like mentioned I bent several so I gave the rest away . With the velosity you can get your foc up
The ones bending the fmj's how are they bending? missing target? pulling arrows?
I was thinking about making the switch after season.
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:39 PM   #8
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The ones bending the fmj's how are they bending? missing target? pulling arrows?
I was thinking about making the switch after season.
I bent a couple pulling them . I've bent them by shooting too close and hitting them . Ive shot through the target and had 1 bend.. I had a pass through on a doe and hit the brush behind her thr arrow bent.. imo I want to be able to practice without worrying about bending arrows ..

Some of the bends or dings might not have made a difference but if I spin an arrow and it wobbles I dont shoot it.. I'm kinda ocd
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Old 10-18-2019, 01:49 PM   #9
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Shoot carbon express maximas myself and have for the past 10 years. Right now I have the blu rz’s. Middle of the road arrow as far as speed and weight. I love them and don’t ever plan on straying away from the maxima series or CE for that matter unless they some how went out of business.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:35 PM   #10
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I use to shoot FMJ's and then went to micro's. Both were good but didn't really fit what I was looking for. Then went to C/E Maximas and they were good as well but I wanted something a little heavier. Switched to C/E Mayhems and they are great. They are a little heavier than the Maximas and perform just as well for my set up. And they're less expensive.
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:39 PM   #11
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Gold tip velocity xt 300s and add insert up front 100gr plus broadhead 100gr
That's my setup and it shoots great
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:46 PM   #12
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Gt 300s with 125 heads weigh ~450grains. Seems a good balance. You could always put a 20 or 25 weight to stay with your 100 grain heads
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:45 AM   #13
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currently shooting 300 spine Black Eagle spartan with a total of 200 up front, comes out to 503 gr. or get the Easton axis 300’s with the 100 gr iron will inserts or ethics archery inserts. Gold tip makes a good arrow as well, they have a new arrow “airstrike” I believe that’s meant to put weight up front


I’d stay away from fmj, as stated above. Good Hard hitting arrows until they bend. Shot a little ol hill country doe and it blew through and stuck in ground and it almost made a 90 when I pulled it out
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:25 AM   #14
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currently shooting 300 spine Black Eagle spartan with a total of 200 up front, comes out to 503 gr. or get the Easton axis 300ís with the 100 gr iron will inserts or ethics archery inserts. Gold tip makes a good arrow as well, they have a new arrow ďairstrikeĒ I believe thatís meant to put weight up front


Iíd stay away from fmj, as stated above. Good Hard hitting arrows until they bend. Shot a little ol hill country doe and it blew through and stuck in ground and it almost made a 90 when I pulled it out
X2 for Black Eagle. I've spent stupid money on trying to find the right arrow. I love Black Eagle Arrows. Currently I'm shooting the deep impacts. FMJ's aren't terrible but I think they are over hyped.
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Old 10-20-2019, 07:31 AM   #15
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Is Carbon Express bassackwards or what?

I found the piledriver DS and was looking at their chart to see which spine I needed

The ones labeled as .250 are 400 spine and the ones labeled .450 are 300 spine
Seems like all the other arrows I have had the size marked (ie GT XT Hunter 400) is the spine also?

I would be highly perturbed if I bought some arrows and they were weaker or stiffer than what the industry standard seems to be

All of that said, any thoughts on the piledrivers?


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Old 10-22-2019, 09:12 PM   #16
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I just went to a heavier arrow as well. I got the pile drivers on sale at Cabela’s. Shot them and they fly great. I’ve got the 350. I noticed that too as well with the spine. Thought that was weird. I put a 100 gr insert in. I don’t have a scale, but they are 11.4 gpi at 28.5 inches. Just rough estimate on a calculator weight is about 552 with 100 gr head at about 14 FOC. Hopefully arrow something soon with them!
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:15 PM   #17
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I shot the fmj and didnt like em. They flew straight and hit hard, but bent easily.

I've gone to beman whiteouts.. they are heavy-ish. Put 100g top hat inserts in, along with a 125g head.. foc monster.. hits hard and very accurate. Not to mention they look cool..

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Iíve shot over 60 large animals with fmjs and maybe have had 2 bend. However Iím shooting 300s.
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:19 PM   #18
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Iíve shot over 60 large animals with fmjs and maybe have had 2 bend. However Iím shooting 300s.
I was shooting 340s... I would give the 300s a shot though

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Old 10-22-2019, 09:42 PM   #19
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I shoot Easton Aftermath 300's. 434 grains at 27 1/4, with a 100 grain head. Reasonably priced, and shoot good. I have some arrows that are much heavier, at 790 grains, but I don't care for the trajectory...
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:36 AM   #20
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Gold tip 340s with the fact weight system or FMJs
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:01 AM   #21
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I just switched from a Hexx 400 at 26" 340gr TAW to GT Velocity XT 340 at 28" 382gr TAW and bumped up to ~71# and the flight and overall improvement is insane. Couldn't believe how much more quiet and smooth my Insanity is with just 40gr. Plus saving $5 per arrow helps too. After season I'll be going to 80# limbs and probably around 430-450gr TAW for next season
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Old 10-25-2019, 10:11 AM   #22
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I had muddyfuzzy make me up some arrows a couple years ago and I've been extremely happy with them. I'm shooting around 62lbs or so and he made me some 300 spine black eagle carnivores with I wanna say a 75grain insert. With my 100 grain heads and nocturnal I'm right at 500 grains total. Multiple pass throughs into some rocky terrain and not one damaged arrow(yet anyway).

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Old 11-06-2019, 04:07 PM   #23
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pm muddyfuzzy.

He built me some black eagle carnivores that upped my FOC from 9% to about 17% while adding only a few grains (less than 10) of total weight. They have blown through some big pigs and everything else I have shot.

Great guy to deal with. I just told him what I was looking for (better penetration without really increasing weight as I have some shoulder issues and shoot a relatively low poundage) and he came up with a plan.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:50 AM   #24
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It all depends on your bow specs and draw length and draw weight if you want it pained out correctly. It’s a deep rabbit hole to go down with all the research if you want to build your own. I agree with PMing muddyfuzzy if you want it done right without any thinking. I’ve been build my own recently, if you want to bounce some ideas off me feel free to PM me
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:16 AM   #25
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Easton hexx with 75grain inserts. Good weight and good FOC. They’re neither micro or aluminum wrapped, but they ain’t cheap.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:30 AM   #26
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Is Carbon Express bassackwards or what?

I found the piledriver DS and was looking at their chart to see which spine I needed

The ones labeled as .250 are 400 spine and the ones labeled .450 are 300 spine
Seems like all the other arrows I have had the size marked (ie GT XT Hunter 400) is the spine also?

I would be highly perturbed if I bought some arrows and they were weaker or stiffer than what the industry standard seems to be

All of that said, any thoughts on the piledrivers?


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Look at the carbon express meyhem hunter ds. I shoot these amd love them. I shoot the 350's and they 10.02 gpi. The 350's are a 350 spine and the 250's are a 400 spine.
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Old 11-12-2019, 04:38 PM   #27
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Go to arrowuniversity.com
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:57 PM   #28
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Go to arrowuniversity.com
exterminator training?

That is where arrowuniversity.com takes you
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