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Old 10-29-2018, 06:49 PM   #1
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I just picked this bow up on Saturday! Shoots awesome! However I think the fletching are hitting my QAD rest based on the felt that is getting a little messed up that is on the rest.
Are the QADs quick enough for fasts bows?


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Old 10-29-2018, 08:22 PM   #2
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:12 PM   #3
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Have not had any fletching contact on my Reign 6 shooting a QAD. Mine shows wear in the in the V part where the arrow shaft makes contact. I am shooting 60lbs though. Specs say the Bowtech Ultrarest QAD was tested to 400fps with total fletching clearance.

Have you noticed any erratic arrow flight?
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:16 PM   #4
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Yep. They are plenty fast enough. You may have a timing issue. I would ask the nearest pro shop to take a look.


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Old 10-29-2018, 09:48 PM   #5
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Have an insanity with same rest, no issues. I do turn my around a certify way just to make sure they don’t make contact with the top part of the rest. Sounds like you make need to time your rest better.
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:34 PM   #6
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Only thing I have seen is some arrows have a slight fish tail to the left and come back. I have a relaxed neutral grip with an emphasis to not torque the bow to allow contact with the cables.
I may just need to look at the straight shooting arrows and see how I have the fletchings set with the string.


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Old 10-29-2018, 10:35 PM   #7
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How do you time them to drop faster? Tighten the cord?


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Old 10-29-2018, 10:40 PM   #8
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Only thing I have seen is some arrows have a slight fish tail to the left and come back. I have a relaxed neutral grip with an emphasis to not torque the bow to allow contact with the cables.
I may just need to look at the straight shooting arrows and see how I have the fletchings set with the string.


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If the bow is harness tuned properly, and centershot properly, and rest is timed properly, you will have zero rest contact. If you are tearing the felt, one or more of these issues needs to be addressed. That bow is not really considered a “speed bow”.
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How do you time them to drop faster? Tighten the cord?


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Which QAD rest?
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:42 PM   #10
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:46 PM   #11
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How do you time them to drop faster? Tighten the cord?


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Tie it in low on the downward cable and get it coming up into the launch position in the last 1” of draw.


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Old 10-29-2018, 11:57 PM   #12
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If the bow is harness tuned properly, and centershot properly, and rest is timed properly, you will have zero rest contact. If you are tearing the felt, one or more of these issues needs to be addressed. That bow is not really considered a “speed bow”.


Not that I’m upset or anything but what makes a speed bow?


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Old 10-29-2018, 11:58 PM   #13
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Which QAD rest?


Not sure if exact rest but it’s from a few years ago.


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Not sure if exact rest but it’s from a few years ago.


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If it is the QAD hunter, it doesn’t have the lockdown feature, and you could be getting bounce back contact. The Reign 7 IBO speed is 340, but it doesn’t get there. I would call anything that truly hits 350, a speed bow. I really like the Reign 7, and the 6. I think they’re the best overdrive binary bows that Bowtech built. What speed is your bow actually shooting?
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Old 10-30-2018, 08:49 AM   #15
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If it is the QAD hunter, it doesn’t have the lockdown feature, and you could be getting bounce back contact. The Reign 7 IBO speed is 340, but it doesn’t get there. I would call anything that truly hits 350, a speed bow. I really like the Reign 7, and the 6. I think they’re the best overdrive binary bows that Bowtech built. What speed is your bow actually shooting?


Here is a photo of the rest on my old bow. I’m not sure what speed it is Shooting. Using 340 gold tip hunter arrows.



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Old 10-30-2018, 08:59 AM   #16
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QAD’s are plenty fast enough. I had one on my 70lb MR5 and it shot great.

Are you shooting with the cock vane up?

To verify vane contact, you can shoot an arrow with lipstick on the vanes. Then check for lipstick residue on the rest.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:02 AM   #17
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Paper tune the bow yet? Fish tail shouldnt be from hitting the rest.

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Only thing I have seen is some arrows have a slight fish tail to the left and come back. I have a relaxed neutral grip with an emphasis to not torque the bow to allow contact with the cables.
I may just need to look at the straight shooting arrows and see how I have the fletchings set with the string.


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Old 10-30-2018, 09:04 AM   #18
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Paper tune the bow yet? Fish tail shouldnt be from hitting the rest.


No I haven’t. What’s weird is that not every shot fishtails.


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Paper tune will tell all, I'd bet your arrow is tearing either left or right if your shot is consistent.

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No I haven’t. What’s weird is that not every shot fishtails.


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Old 10-30-2018, 09:45 AM   #20
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Paper tune will tell all, I'd bet your arrow is tearing either left or right if your shot is consistent.


If that’s the case what does that mean I need to do to my bow? Never paper tuned before.


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https://shootingtime.com/archery/paper-tuning-a-bow/

Here is a great explanation.
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Old 10-30-2018, 10:14 AM   #22
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I was using a QAD on an RPM360. It's not that your rest isn't dropping fast enough, it's not setup properly.

When you draw your bow, when is the rest coming fully back? Knowing this will help diagnose your issue.
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If that’s the case what does that mean I need to do to my bow? Never paper tuned before.


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In this case, you probably need to get it to a good shop and start from scratch. Cam timing, harness tuning, centershot, and rest timing. The QAD LD, has the lockdown feature, so you shouldn’t be getting bounce back unless it is positioned too low, and launcher is hitting shelf before locking down. A press is needed to do all this.
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Old 10-30-2018, 10:44 AM   #24
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Only thing I have seen is some arrows have a slight fish tail to the left and come back. I have a relaxed neutral grip with an emphasis to not torque the bow to allow contact with the cables.
I may just need to look at the straight shooting arrows and see how I have the fletchings set with the string.


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you prolly have a good relaxed grip,but, how deep into your hand does the grip sit? its not sitting on the lifeline is it?
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Old 10-30-2018, 11:37 AM   #25
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you prolly have a good relaxed grip,but, how deep into your hand does the grip sit? its not sitting on the lifeline is it?


Without my bow at the moment I’m not sure but I think it is on the lifeline.


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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...F&&FORM=VRDGAR

skip down to 3:00 minute mark................i personally stay on the meaty part of my thumb, if that makes sense.....i tried to find one that levi morgan did on the subject.
unlike other things in life, with your archery grip, deeper is not better...
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:53 PM   #27
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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...F&&FORM=VRDGAR

skip down to 3:00 minute mark................i personally stay on the meaty part of my thumb, if that makes sense.....i tried to find one that levi morgan did on the subject.
unlike other things in life, with your archery grip, deeper is not better...


Thanks for the tip man. That might have cleared things up. I came home and shot 5 quick shots utilizing this technique at 20yards without any arrows fish tailing.



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Looks real good!


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