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Old 02-12-2019, 10:06 AM   #1
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Default ATN Thor lt vs atn xsight 4K pro

Iíve been real interested in these two lately as a entry into night hunting hogs. the atn xsight 4K pro 5x20 vs ATN ThOR lt 4x8. Both are budget optics in their own respect 799$ for the xsight and 1300$ for the Thor. Was just wondering does a 8 power thermal trump a 20 power night vision scope in yalls opinion or am I comparing apples to oranges?
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:00 AM   #2
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:04 AM   #3
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Iíve been real interested in these two lately as a entry into night hunting hogs. the atn xsight 4K pro 5x20 vs ATN ThOR lt 4x8. Both are budget optics in their own respect 799$ for the xsight and 1300$ for the Thor. Was just wondering does a 8 power thermal trump a 20 power night vision scope in yalls opinion or am I comparing apples to oranges?
You're comparing last Sunday's sloppy joes to burnt friend chicken. Friends don't let friends waste money on ATN.

If you want a digital NV scope: get the Sightmark Photon RT today, or wait a few months and get the Sightmark Wraith that was just announced.

If you want thermal, and you have the money, this is absolutely a better choice. The Pulsar Core RXQ30V is the best entry level scope on the market. It will stack bodies all night long.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:21 AM   #4
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There is an RXQ30V in the classifieds that is a good buy. $1400. Awesome thermal for the money. I’ve killed a bunch of critters with mine. Pass on the ATN and go with a Pulsar.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:28 AM   #5
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Wolf creek I’ll check it out and 35rem what make atn such a bad company?
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:50 AM   #6
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The atm x sight 4k pro is on sportsmans guide for less than 600 rightnow.. I have one and it works well for hunting hogs around my feeder. I dont use it enough to justify 1500 to 2k for a night vision.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:54 AM   #7
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Wolf creek I’ll check it out and 35rem what make atn such a bad company?
I think there were some firmware bugs that took a while to work the kinks out of that upset people early on. I have the x-sight II hd or whatever that one is, wife got it for my birthday a while back. We sit by the fire at fish camp with the lights off and drink beer and scan the mud flats behind us every beer or so. Many hogs of died because of that cheap night vision sight, furthest being about 240ish yards. I bought an upgraded IR light for it, doesn't seem to do any better than the stock light. Only problem I've had with mine is it won't do the recoil activated video for some reason, so I have to hit the record button manually if I want video. Some guys are getting the Photon sights on clearance at Academy stores right now.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:12 PM   #8
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Call Jason at Outdoor Legacy and talk to him---worth your time.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:37 PM   #9
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Will do after work dustoff. but another question I have. I always hear about the sightmark photon, to my understanding I thought sightmark as a company made lower quality scopes and such kind of like bsa?
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:23 PM   #10
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Like others have said it’s probably best to stay away from ATN. Hit Jason up about the photons
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:37 PM   #11
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I had an ATN NV for about 6 months. It will work as long as you understand its limitations. I could only get one or two hogs down consistently. If you are shooting at groups of hogs thermal is the ticket. Way easier to move from target to target. Pulsar just to me was all around a better image and the customer service seems better. The Core fit my budget and is leaps and bounds better than the ATNs a few friends have. I have not had issues with mine over the last year and a half but have buddies that have dealt with them and it has all been smooth. If you are wanting NV then go with the Photon. They are the better buy in my opinion.
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:46 PM   #12
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Wolf creek Iíll check it out and 35rem what make atn such a bad company?
The company is fine. Their products are just half-baked. I have had too many ATN scopes turn into paperweights to recommend them to anyone.

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Will do after work dustoff. but another question I have. I always hear about the sightmark photon, to my understanding I thought sightmark as a company made lower quality scopes and such kind of like bsa?
The Photon, while sold in USA as a Sightmark product, is actually made by the Lithuanian company that makes Pulsar scopes. It is a rock-solid performer. I have one and love it for the money.
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Old 02-12-2019, 05:54 PM   #13
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I have the ATN 4K 5x20 so far it does what I need done !
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:40 PM   #14
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I have never met anyone that in the end has happy with Atn. Pulsar or sightmark
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:05 AM   #15
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Anyone with an Atn. What size micro card is good?
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:25 AM   #16
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neither. Save for 2500+ thermal
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:44 AM   #17
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I have zero experience with thermal or digital, but I've had an ATN Night Arrow 4X NV scope for 5 years now. I bought a good IR light, mounted it on a short rail on my handguard, and commenced to killing hogs. I have no trouble killing hogs to 200 yards. Multiple kills are limited to how long it takes them to make it to the woods. I've only killed two on a few occasions but it wasn't the scopes fault that they got into the woods. Sometimes only a big boar was there, in which case you can't kill what doesn't show.

If I had big bucks to drop on a thermal, and wide open spaces to hunt, it would be great, but I don't. As far as ATN is concerned, I haven't had any problems with my scope, but they did cheerfully and quickly replace two of the IR lights before I bought my own. My buddy had to send his back and they fixed it no problem. I hear of poor customer service, but we have experienced the opposite.

In the end, I think that technology has screwed us with a product that is fast falling behind, but 100 or so dead hogs ain't ever gonna know or care that they were killed with yesterday's tech. The ones we kill this year ain't gonna care either.

OP, the advice to PM Jason is probably good.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:48 AM   #18
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Will do after work dustoff. but another question I have. I always hear about the sightmark photon, to my understanding I thought sightmark as a company made lower quality scopes and such kind of like bsa?
Sightmark does make cheaper items. But, Sightmark and Pulsar are one in the same.
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Old 02-13-2019, 10:58 AM   #20
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Wolf creek Iíll check it out and 35rem what make atn such a bad company?
Their customer service is what I have heard that is really poor.
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Old 02-13-2019, 11:23 AM   #21
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I have zero experience with thermal or digital, but I've had an ATN Night Arrow 4X NV scope for 5 years now. I bought a good IR light, mounted it on a short rail on my handguard, and commenced to killing hogs. I have no trouble killing hogs to 200 yards. Multiple kills are limited to how long it takes them to make it to the woods. I've only killed two on a few occasions but it wasn't the scopes fault that they got into the woods. Sometimes only a big boar was there, in which case you can't kill what doesn't show.

If I had big bucks to drop on a thermal, and wide open spaces to hunt, it would be great, but I don't. As far as ATN is concerned, I haven't had any problems with my scope, but they did cheerfully and quickly replace two of the IR lights before I bought my own. My buddy had to send his back and they fixed it no problem. I hear of poor customer service, but we have experienced the opposite.

In the end, I think that technology has screwed us with a product that is fast falling behind, but 100 or so dead hogs ain't ever gonna know or care that they were killed with yesterday's tech. The ones we kill this year ain't gonna care either.

OP, the advice to PM Jason is probably good.
Agreed, definitely yesterday's tech but I can see in the dark with it and hogs are just as dead either way. Works for me. I don't have my truck lifted 8" with 40" tires either and rolling coal either.
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Old 02-13-2019, 11:59 AM   #22
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I have never met anyone that in the end has happy with Pulsar or sightmark
Lol no. Just no.
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:34 PM   #23
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Lol no. Just no.

Why edit my quote? I clearly stated I have never known anyone (6 guys) that ended up happy with ATN
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:38 PM   #25
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I have the ATN X Sight II. No complaints from me. Works day or night. Sure i would love a thermal and may get there one day but it has not kept me from killing hogs. will try it on axis deer next month and don't expect any issues. 200 yards is probably my limit.

i have no experience with the ATN 4k.

as others mentioned - talk to Jason at Outdoor Legacy.
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Why edit my quote? I clearly stated I have never known anyone (6 guys) that ended up happy with ATN
Oh man I'm really sorry. I misread what you were saying. I thought you were saying all 3 were junk. Totally my bad. I re-read it and I get it now.
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Oh man I'm really sorry. I misread what you were saying. I thought you were saying all 3 were junk. Totally my bad. I re-read it and I get it now.
Ha! No worries. Poor sentence structure on my part.
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:58 PM   #28
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I shot a pm to Jason just waiting on a reply. And I appreciate all the feed back just got caught up the the whole Bluetooth capability of the 4K thought it would be handy if someone is sitting in a blind with me
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I shot a pm to Jason just waiting on a reply. And I appreciate all the feed back just got caught up the the whole Bluetooth capability of the 4K thought it would be handy if someone is sitting in a blind with me
One thing I like about the ATN I have is I can watch the kids on my tablet or phone when they're aiming. Seeing what they see live is pretty awesome and I can tell them which pig to shoot, or no that's not a pig that's a cow (lmao j/k). Do any of the other sights do that?
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Old 02-13-2019, 09:34 PM   #30
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One thing I like about the ATN I have is I can watch the kids on my tablet or phone when they're aiming. Seeing what they see live is pretty awesome and I can tell them which pig to shoot, or no that's not a pig that's a cow (lmao j/k). Do any of the other sights do that?


The photons will do that also.
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:13 PM   #31
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A bunch of my buddies and I have been using ATN ThOR's for 5+ years with zero issues. I bet we use them 50 nights a year and I have loaned mine to others to use as well. I just bought the ThOR 4 384 and love it. 30mm rings and lightweight. Easy to use and the recording functions are easy to set up and use. If you check around at online sellers you can save some $/tax and shipping. A thermal scope is one thing I would not buy used, just my opinion. A buddy checked out the new ThOR LTE at SHOT Show and is considering one. He's not really interested in all the bells and whistles, he just wants to be able to shoot critters at night on Long Island, NY. A lot of garbage panda's I guess. Here's a fawn eater a buddy and I rolled up 2 weeks ago with a syncronized shot. We whacked 4 150 pound hogs too. My 6.5 cm and my buddies Wilson 6.8 don't leave impacts in doubt.

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Oh yeah I almost forgot my cheapo atn also works on the daytime....
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