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Old 11-13-2018, 08:00 AM   #1
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Prosecutors and defense lawyers are set to deliver opening statements today. prayers up for the jury!
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:14 AM   #2
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Been following this for 10 years. Read numerous books.

He should be slowly skinned alive and then dunked in salt water every 30 minutes. Truly a piece of garbage...................
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They just need to put him out in general population for a few days. Save the tax payers some $$$ on a trial and such.
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Been following this for 10 years. Read numerous books.

He should be slowly skinned alive and then dunked in salt water every 30 minutes. Truly a piece of garbage...................

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They just need to put him out in general population for a few days. Save the tax payers some $$$ on a trial and such.

Why?
You don't think the Mexican or Black gangs will protect him?
He's like a real life Scarface. All the criminals admire and look up to him. Think of him as a God.
He El Chapo, not Sandusky.
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He's an idiot anyway, he could have disappeared many times over in the depths of Mexico's Sierra Madres or in another country but he kept going back to not only his home state but his own house..
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:26 AM   #6
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You don't think the Mexican or Black gangs will protect him?
He's like a real life Scarface. All the criminals admire and look up to him. Think of him as a God.
He El Chapo, not Sandusky.
I figured someone would defend this piece of chit. It doesn't surprise me at all it is you. I guess in your mind Hitler was justified in his actions also.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:30 AM   #7
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I figured someone would defend this piece of chit. It doesn't surprise me at all it is you. I guess in your mind Hitler was justified in his actions also.
I didnt see where he defended him anywhere ???

If you put him in Gen Pop, he would run it.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:32 AM   #8
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I figured someone would defend this piece of chit. It doesn't surprise me at all it is you. I guess in your mind Hitler was justified in his actions also.
I'm not defending el chapo
I just know there is no way some farmers kid from Mexico with zero education could move metric kilo tons of narcotic from Colombia to Kansas City without the help of some govt organizations

Enough of my soapbox
If the govt wanted to stop illegal immigrants they could
If the govt wanted to stop drugs coming from Colombia via Mexico they could

Hitler and El Chapo arent even in the same ballpark
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:37 AM   #9
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He's an idiot anyway, he could have disappeared many times over in the depths of Mexico's Sierra Madres or in another country but he kept going back to not only his home state but his own house..
he was way too greedy; it was his undoing.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:37 AM   #10
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I'm not defending el chapo
I just know there is no way some farmers kid from Mexico with zero education could move metric kilo tons of narcotic from Colombia to Kansas City without the help of some govt organizations

Enough of my soapbox
If the govt wanted to stop illegal immigrants they could
If the govt wanted to stop drugs coming from Colombia via Mexico they could

Hitler and El Chapo arent even in the same ballpark
What else would politicians use as talking points to get elected if immigration, education, healthcare, etc. were not tangible threats.

Chapo is sick, and yes he had help.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:38 AM   #11
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he was way too greedy; it was his undoing.
Yes sir...

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Old 11-13-2018, 09:44 AM   #12
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I'm not defending el chapo
I just know there is no way some farmers kid from Mexico with zero education could move metric kilo tons of narcotic from Colombia to Kansas City without the help of some govt organizations

Enough of my soapbox
If the govt wanted to stop illegal immigrants they could
If the govt wanted to stop drugs coming from Colombia via Mexico they could

Hitler and El Chapo arent even in the same ballpark
Maybe you should take that tin foil hat off once in a while.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:45 AM   #13
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In the criminal world there are always a few itching to make a name for themselves or leave a legacy behind. Would be the only opportunity they would ever have and the only thing they got left. What better way to fame than to be the lifer who whacks the Chapo. That person would be famous throughout the system and get free commissary gifts from everyone.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:49 AM   #14
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I would hate to be on the opposite side of this guy right now, lawyers and jury. Heck even his own lawyers if he loses. There cannot be enough protection for those people.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:51 AM   #15
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In the criminal world there are always a few itching to make a name for themselves or leave a legacy behind. Would be the only opportunity they would ever have and the only thing they got left. What better way to fame than to be the lifer who whacks the Chapo. That person would be famous throughout the system and get free commissary gifts from everyone.
good point
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:06 AM   #16
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In the criminal world there are always a few itching to make a name for themselves or leave a legacy behind. Would be the only opportunity they would ever have and the only thing they got left. What better way to fame than to be the lifer who whacks the Chapo. That person would be famous throughout the system and get free commissary gifts from everyone.
He would be dead at the hands of MS-13.........quick!
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:13 AM   #17
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he was way too greedy; it was his undoing.
Wasnt there a beauty pageant winner also involved in his downfall ?

Another powerful man, that risked it for the whisker biscuit.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:16 AM   #18
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Hes in NY.....figured he'd be running for mayor
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:30 PM   #19
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I'm not defending el chapo
I just know there is no way some farmers kid from Mexico with zero education could move metric kilo tons of narcotic from Colombia to Kansas City without the help of some govt organizations

Enough of my soapbox
If the govt wanted to stop illegal immigrants they could
If the govt wanted to stop drugs coming from Colombia via Mexico they could

Hitler and El Chapo arent even in the same ballpark
You ain't been around enough Mexicans.
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Old 11-17-2018, 01:55 PM   #20
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I didnt see where he defended him anywhere ???

If you put him in Gen Pop, he would run it.
Agreed on both counts! If I was within a block of that courthouse I would be wary!!
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Pretty much!!!
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I would hate to be on the opposite side of this guy right now, lawyers and jury. Heck even his own lawyers if he loses. There cannot be enough protection for those people.
u beat me to it. Could get very messy, very quickly!!!
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Old 11-18-2018, 02:30 PM   #21
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What????
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Old 11-18-2018, 02:57 PM   #22
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I wouldn't be surprised if there is an escape attempt here pretty soon.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:54 PM   #23
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found guilty on all 10 charges
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Death would be an easy way out for him.....I think he should sit and rot away in prison the rest of his life.
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Old 02-12-2019, 03:04 PM   #25
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Death would be an easy way out for him.....I think he should sit and rot away in prison the rest of his life.
I dont agree - too many opportunities to get this guy off the map, that have been wasted.

Get rid of him as soon as possible.
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I'm not defending el chapo
I just know there is no way some farmers kid from Mexico with zero education could move metric kilo tons of narcotic from Colombia to Kansas City without the help of some govt organizations

Enough of my soapbox
If the govt wanted to stop illegal immigrants they could
If the govt wanted to stop drugs coming from Colombia via Mexico they could

Hitler and El Chapo arent even in the same ballpark
Welcome to the tinfoil nation....
It's on very rare ocassions we agree... This is one of those..
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The government used him to grow and expand government. On to the next slug.


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What are the chances El Chapo ends up in Prison with one of his cartel members that is butt hurt they got locked up because they worked for him?
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he was way too greedy; it was his undoing.
No your wrong.. Being born a Evil, POS, low life, scum sucking, bottom feeding parasite was his undoing...
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I figured someone would defend this piece of chit. It doesn't surprise me at all it is you. I guess in your mind Hitler was justified in his actions also.

you might learn to read better, because he said nothing of the sort,, he made a factual statement he did not defend him
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Has anyone heard or read this yet ??
I'm going to do some digging.


"During the trial it was brought up that Adam Schiff, Pelosi and Hillary accepted El Chapo bribes and they slammed the courtroom door shut. It makes perfect sense now why they want open borders for trafficking."


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Back in 2011, attorneys representing El Chapo lieutenant Jesus Vincente Zamada-Niebla attempted to do the same. In a motion to the court, his attorneys said…

“Weapons received by Sinaloa Cartel members and its leaders in Operation Fast and Furious were provided under the agreement entered into between the United States government… and the Sinaloa Cartel… providing benefits, including immunity, to cartel leaders… who are willing to provide information against rival drug cartels.”


Yea. Like 8 years ago. I thought that this was pretty much accepted as facts by most

The House has voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress over his failure to turn over documents related to the Fast and Furious scandal, the first time Congress has taken such a dramatic move against a sitting Cabinet official.

The vote was 255-67, with 17 Democrats voting in support of a criminal contempt resolution, which authorizes Republicans leaders to seek criminal charges against Holder. This Democratic support came despite a round of behind-the-scenes lobbying by senior White House and Justice officials - as well as pressure from party leaders - to support Holder.
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Back in 2011, attorneys representing El Chapo lieutenant Jesus Vincente Zamada-Niebla attempted to do the same. In a motion to the court, his attorneys said…

“Weapons received by Sinaloa Cartel members and its leaders in Operation Fast and Furious were provided under the agreement entered into between the United States government… and the Sinaloa Cartel… providing benefits, including immunity, to cartel leaders… who are willing to provide information against rival drug cartels.”


Yea. Like 8 years ago. I thought that this was pretty much accepted as facts by most

The House has voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress over his failure to turn over documents related to the Fast and Furious scandal, the first time Congress has taken such a dramatic move against a sitting Cabinet official.

The vote was 255-67, with 17 Democrats voting in support of a criminal contempt resolution, which authorizes Republicans leaders to seek criminal charges against Holder. This Democratic support came despite a round of behind-the-scenes lobbying by senior White House and Justice officials - as well as pressure from party leaders - to support Holder.
So Holder just skates????? He Never did a day in prison and it all just "went away"....
I hope Trump opens new investigations on all of these in the near future.. People need to be prosecuted and sent to prison..
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I worry about yall some days ...
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I worry about yall some days ...
I worry about our country(all of us)everyday!!!!!

Our country is being led by a bunch of America hating, corrupt to the core, criminals for the most part... And they seem to be above the law...
Very irretating and frustrating to watch.
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So who was helping him build his empire? CIA?
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I don’t think the average Joe understands and/or wants to accept the power and reach that individuals like Chapo and similar have.
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I worry about yall some days ...
Too many conspiracies in this thread.

But Trump is a Russian agent, right?
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I worry about yall some days ...
Well that and a dollar will get me a can of coke.

Now, Fast and Furious is back in the news. Earlier this month, a raid on the hidey-hole of drug kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman recovered not only the notorious drug lord, but a (“massive”) .50-caliber rifle, capable of stopping a car or shooting down a helicopter, that originated with the ATF program. Rest easy, though: Only 34 such rifles were sold through the program.

The news comes just days after a federal judge rejected President Obama’s assertion of executive privilege to deny Congress access to Fast and Furious–related records it requested back in 2012 as part of an investigation into the gun-walking operation. Despite the IRS scandal, Benghazi, and a host of other accusations of malfeasance against this White House, it remains this president’s sole assertion of executive privilege.


I remember reading about this when it happened. They found a .50 cal from Fast and Furious, when they caught Chapo. I mean, could it get any more obvious?
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Has anyone heard or read this yet ??
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"During the trial it was brought up that Adam Schiff, Pelosi and Hillary accepted El Chapo bribes and they slammed the courtroom door shut. It makes perfect sense now why they want open borders for trafficking."


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Too many conspiracies in this thread.

But Trump is a Russian agent, right?
Trump the Russian, Obama the Muslim ...

It never stops
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"During the trial it was brought up that Adam Schiff, Pelosi and Hillary accepted El Chapo bribes and they slammed the courtroom door shut. It makes perfect sense now why they want open borders for trafficking."


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I'm sure there were bribes with both parties, and other countries as well. The fact that anyone is surprised by this is kinda unnerving. As mentioned, he was allowed to be who he is, simply because he was extremely profitable. He's probably drank a few glasses of whiskey with Bush, smoked some cigars with Obama, and had a few nice dinners with Hillary. El Chapo isn't any more crooked or corrupt than our own politicians, and probably has twice as much honor. I don't think some of you truly understand who he is.
He never kept a low profile, because he didn't need to. He wasn't worried about a thing, probably still isn't. With his money, an El Chapo clone will probably do the time, while he jet sets around the world.
There's another El Chapo in waiting anyway, who will evolve, and be bigger.
End the war on drugs if you want to get rid of these kingpins.
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Trump the Russian, Obama the Muslim ...

It never stops
Don't forget Hillary. She's the leader of the most powerful crime family in modern times.
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End the war on drugs if you want to get rid of these kingpins.
Bingo. If the U.S. didn't buy Mexican drugs, nobody would know who el Chapo is.
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Trump the Russian, Obama the Muslim ...

It never stops
Except Hussein Obama is a muslim... That's no secret..
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I'm sure there were bribes with both parties, and other countries as well. The fact that anyone is surprised by this is kinda unnerving. As mentioned, he was allowed to be who he is, simply because he was extremely profitable. He's probably drank a few glasses of whiskey with Bush, smoked some cigars with Obama, and had a few nice dinners with Hillary. El Chapo isn't any more crooked or corrupt than our own politicians, and probably has twice as much honor. I don't think some of you truly understand who he is.
He never kept a low profile, because he didn't need to. He wasn't worried about a thing, probably still isn't. With his money, an El Chapo clone will probably do the time, while he jet sets around the world.
There's another El Chapo in waiting anyway, who will evolve, and be bigger.
End the war on drugs if you want to get rid of these kingpins.

Preaching to the choir here captain..
If you think I'm one of those that is in the dark about how crooked and corrupt our politicians are you obviously havent read many of my political posts.... A barrel of snakes has nothing on the bottom feeders in DC..
Politicians at many levels are getting rich with "dirty money" and have been for years.. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain..
I was just hoping that now we have something concrete enough to lock a few of them up and no I don't care what political party they come. Some from both sides would be fine..
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