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Old 02-11-2019, 01:00 PM   #1
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Default Which 300 Win Mag Factory Ammo for Elk?

I am trying to decide between the following three factory ammo for an Elk hunt this fall. Shots will be 500 yds or closer at an elevation of around 8000 ft. I know the correct answer is whichever one shoots best out of my rifle, but let's say everything shoots well. I am more interested in terminal performance than shooting 1" groups.

1. Nosler Trophy Grade 200 gr partition
2. Nosler Trophy Grade 180 gr Accubond
3. Federal Premium Vital-Shok with 180 gr Partitions

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Old 02-11-2019, 01:02 PM   #2
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I've not killed an elk, but my rifle likes the 180 partitions. The Aoudad I shot at 200 yards did not like them at all. He was DRT.
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:20 PM   #3
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Nothing wrong with a partition! That being said I have been really impressed with accubonds out of my stepsons 7mm-08. I know it’s not on the list but 180 grain ttsx has been bad medicine out of my 300 wsm for elk, red deer, bison and lots of others. It flies nice as well.
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:41 PM   #4
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I've not killed an elk, but my rifle likes the 180 partitions. The Aoudad I shot at 200 yards did not like them at all. He was DRT.


Killed elk with 180 partitions
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:42 PM   #5
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:48 PM   #6
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All 3 are more than plenty to bring an elk down no problem. I would go with the 180 partitions if I was choosing of the 3.
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I know itís not on the list but 180 grain ttsx has been bad medicine out of my 300 wsm for elk, red deer, bison and lots of others. It flies nice as well.

This is exactly where I'd be looking. We have tested in a bunch of rifles, and seen it used on a lot of critters with great results. It flat out works and is also seems to shoot well consistently out of more rifles than any other factory 300 load we test with.

Funny story about how we stumbled on to the Barnes factory 300WM stuff. We took a hunting weight 300WM to a gunwriter press/demo day a few years ago. The only ammo we had on the shelf for it was a case of barnes 180 TTSX. I didn't worry too much since I figured those guys would be shooting at normal distances, and none would want to spend much time with a light weight 300WM anyway. I honestly didn't think anyone would actually shoot it given all of the other "fun" rifles that were there at their disposal for the day. Those guys ended up fighting over that thing until the ammo ran out. They were consistently banging steel at 1,140 yards with it! Haha
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:15 PM   #8
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There is no wrong answer in that list!
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:41 PM   #9
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This is exactly where I'd be looking. We have tested in a bunch of rifles, and seen it used on a lot of critters with great results. It flat out works and is also seems to shoot well consistently out of more rifles than any other factory 300 load we test with.

Funny story about how we stumbled on to the Barnes factory 300WM stuff. We took a hunting weight 300WM to a gunwriter press/demo day a few years ago. The only ammo we had on the shelf for it was a case of barnes 180 TTSX. I didn't worry too much since I figured those guys would be shooting at normal distances, and none would want to spend much time with a light weight 300WM anyway. I honestly didn't think anyone would actually shoot it given all of the other "fun" rifles that were there at their disposal for the day. Those guys ended up fighting over that thing until the ammo ran out. They were consistently banging steel at 1,140 yards with it! Haha
These are the solid copper bullets correct? Man, the old school in me just has a hard time with no lead! I will research them. Thanks!
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:50 PM   #10
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Another vote for the Barnes TTSX. Not only does my rifle love the 180gr Barnes bullets, several of us that hunt together have had great results with them. I haven't shot an elk, but that's what I took to hunt Nilgai with.
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Old 02-11-2019, 03:32 PM   #11
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These are the solid copper bullets correct? Man, the old school in me just has a hard time with no lead! I will research them. Thanks!
I know there are several schools of thought about the best way a bullet should transfer it's energy to the target(lead vs.mono). I think there are merits to both, depending on the critter. I will say those TTSX's have no respect for bone whatsoever, and will plow through a bunch of it before calling it quits!
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:21 PM   #12
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I know it's not on your list but I shot a Arizona bull with a Nosler 210 accubond longrange, dropped him in his tracks at 500 yards with my 300 WM. Got a pass through too.
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:34 PM   #13
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#3. 180 grains is plenty.
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:55 PM   #14
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Accubonds takes my vote.
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:18 PM   #15
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The ones it shoots best
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:44 PM   #16
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I would go with the 180 gr partition.
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:12 AM   #17
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I am a huge barnes fan They just work , My only complaint is that I have some guns that where not as accurate with it as it was with other brands.. With that said see how they group and if they group well enough for your range I would use them over any thing else ..

I have shot moose and Elk with them and even at long ranges it did the job . My longest on large game 735 on a maine Moose . from my 300 RUM . It step forward and went down . Elk I did recover one bullet as I pulled the shot and he was just over 600 on a hill side . I mess up and the Elk was angling more than I thought bullet went in in front of shoulder smashing its way through caught in hide opposite side. Picture perfect 97% weight retention .

I have shot others as well but always like the fact that the barnes opens up and does great job .

Good luck on your choice
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:30 PM   #18
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I tried the Barnes solid copper bullet and the Nosler partitions were far more accurate. I guess it depends on what your rifle likes.

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Old 02-12-2019, 06:40 PM   #19
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One thing we have noticed about the barnes is they won't shoot their best if shooting over fouling left by other bullets. They just don't like copper from traditional jackets. Start with a really clean barrel and give it a couple foulers before you judge how they are going to shoot.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:06 PM   #20
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Partitions or Barnes TTSX
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:10 PM   #21
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#3 of yours.
I use the ttsx myself.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:16 PM   #22
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Old 02-12-2019, 11:14 PM   #23
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I've only shot 1 elk and it was a cow, but 160 gr Nosler accubonds from my 7 mag did the trick. She went maybe 20 yards after the shot. Not too much meat damage with a shoulder shot at a little over 300 yards. Barnes, E-tip, GMX bullets are great for smaller calibers killing big critters under 300-350 yards, but if you think the shot could be further....I'd go with something else. Expansion on those type of bullets need velocity. AT 500 yards the velocity of a 180 gr Barnes TTSX is approx 2000 fps. From my experience, they expand better with a velocity above 2400 fps. Even though Barnes says they will expand down to 1800 fps or so. My 300 win mag is sighted in with 180 gr Nosler Accubonds and if I really thought my shot opportunity would be at longer ranges....I'd use the 200 gr ELD-x. Maybe I'm just a little prejudice against mono-metal bullets, but from what I've experienced, they need high velocity or to hit bone, to perform well.
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Old 02-13-2019, 05:54 PM   #24
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This is exactly where I'd be looking. We have tested in a bunch of rifles, and seen it used on a lot of critters with great results. It flat out works and is also seems to shoot well consistently out of more rifles than any other factory 300 load we test with.

Funny story about how we stumbled on to the Barnes factory 300WM stuff. We took a hunting weight 300WM to a gunwriter press/demo day a few years ago. The only ammo we had on the shelf for it was a case of barnes 180 TTSX. I didn't worry too much since I figured those guys would be shooting at normal distances, and none would want to spend much time with a light weight 300WM anyway. I honestly didn't think anyone would actually shoot it given all of the other "fun" rifles that were there at their disposal for the day. Those guys ended up fighting over that thing until the ammo ran out. They were consistently banging steel at 1,140 yards with it! Haha
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