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Old 07-12-2022, 09:43 AM   #1
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https://twitter.com/csa_asc/status/1546866822372376576

For the space and stars people. I'd like to see high def pictures versus ones on the internet. And some zoomed in.

Post pictures here if you have any. I just saw this tweet.
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Old 07-12-2022, 10:20 AM   #2
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From JSC home page.

The image shows the galaxy cluster SMACS 0723 as it appeared 4.6 billion years ago. The combined mass of this galaxy cluster acts as a gravitational lens, magnifying much more distant galaxies behind it. Webb’s NIRCam has brought those distant galaxies into sharp focus – they have tiny, faint structures that have never been seen before, including star clusters and diffuse features. Researchers will soon begin to learn more about the galaxies’ masses, ages, histories, and compositions, as Webb seeks the earliest galaxies in the universe.

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Is it me or does the photo seam to hint at a rotation of the stars about the center?



The dimmer star at the center of this scene has been sending out rings of gas and dust for thousands of years in all directions, and NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope has revealed for the first time that this star is cloaked in dust.

Two cameras aboard Webb captured the latest image of this planetary nebula, cataloged as NGC 3132, and known informally as the Southern Ring Nebula. It is approximately 2,500 light-years away.

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Stephan’s Quintet, a visual grouping of five galaxies, is best known for being prominently featured in the holiday classic film, “It’s a Wonderful Life.” Today, NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope reveals Stephan’s Quintet in a new light. This enormous mosaic is Webb’s largest image to date, covering about one-fifth of the Moon’s diameter. It contains over 150 million pixels and is constructed from almost 1,000 separate image files. The information from Webb provides new insights into how galactic interactions may have driven galaxy evolution in the early universe.

With its powerful, infrared vision and extremely high spatial resolution, Webb shows never-before-seen details in this galaxy group. Sparkling clusters of millions of young stars and starburst regions of fresh star birth grace the image. Sweeping tails of gas, dust and stars are being pulled from several of the galaxies due to gravitational interactions. Most dramatically, Webb captures huge shock waves as one of the galaxies, NGC 7318B, smashes through the cluster.

Together, the five galaxies of Stephan’s Quintet are also known as the Hickson Compact Group 92 (HCG 92). Although called a “quintet,” only four of the galaxies are truly close together and caught up in a cosmic dance. The fifth and leftmost galaxy, called NGC 7320, is well in the foreground compared with the other four. NGC 7320 resides 40 million light-years from Earth, while the other four galaxies (NGC 7317, NGC 7318A, NGC 7318B, and NGC 7319) are about 290 million light-years away. This is still fairly close in cosmic terms, compared with more distant galaxies billions of light-years away. Studying such relatively nearby galaxies like these helps scientists better understand structures seen in a much more distant universe.

This proximity provides astronomers a ringside seat for witnessing the merging and interactions between galaxies that are so crucial to all of galaxy evolution. Rarely do scientists see in so much detail how interacting galaxies trigger star formation in each other, and how the gas in these galaxies is being disturbed. Stephan’s Quintet is a fantastic “laboratory” for studying these processes fundamental to all galaxies.

Tight groups like this may have been more common in the early universe when their superheated, infalling material may have fueled very energetic black holes called quasars. Even today, the topmost galaxy in the group – NGC 7319 – harbors an active galactic nucleus, a supermassive black hole 24 million times the mass of the Sun. It is actively pulling in material and puts out light energy equivalent to 40 billion Suns.

Webb studied the active galactic nucleus in great detail with the Near-Infrared Spectrograph (NIRSpec) and Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI). These instruments’ integral field units (IFUs) – which are a combination of a camera and spectrograph – provided the Webb team with a “data cube,” or collection of images of the galactic core’s spectral features.

Much like medical magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), the IFUs allow scientists to “slice and dice” the information into many images for detailed study. Webb pierced through the shroud of dust surrounding the nucleus to reveal hot gas near the active black hole and measure the velocity of bright outflows. The telescope saw these outflows driven by the black hole in a level of detail never seen before.

In NGC 7320, the leftmost and closest galaxy in the visual grouping, Webb was able to resolve individual stars and even the galaxy’s bright core.

As a bonus, Webb revealed a vast sea of thousands of distant background galaxies reminiscent of Hubble’s Deep Fields.

Combined with the most detailed infrared image ever of Stephan’s Quintet from MIRI and the Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam), the data from Webb will provide a bounty of valuable, new information. For example, it will help scientists understand the rate at which supermassive black holes feed and grow. Webb also sees star-forming regions much more directly, and it is able to examine emission from the dust – a level of detail impossible to obtain until now.

Located in the constellation Pegasus, Stephan’s Quintet was discovered by the French astronomer Édouard Stephan in 1877.
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This landscape of “mountains” and “valleys” speckled with glittering stars is actually the edge of a nearby, young, star-forming region called NGC 3324 in the Carina Nebula. Captured in infrared light by NASA’s new James Webb Space Telescope, this image reveals for the first time previously invisible areas of star birth.

Called the Cosmic Cliffs, Webb’s seemingly three-dimensional picture looks like craggy mountains on a moonlit evening. In reality, it is the edge of the giant, gaseous cavity within NGC 3324, and the tallest “peaks” in this image are about 7 light-years high. The cavernous area has been carved from the nebula by the intense ultraviolet radiation and stellar winds from extremely massive, hot, young stars located in the center of the bubble, above the area shown in this image.

The blistering, ultraviolet radiation from the young stars is sculpting the nebula’s wall by slowly eroding it away. Dramatic pillars tower above the glowing wall of gas, resisting this radiation. The “steam” that appears to rise from the celestial “mountains” is actually hot, ionized gas and hot dust streaming away from the nebula due to the relentless radiation.

Webb reveals emerging stellar nurseries and individual stars that are completely hidden in visible-light pictures. Because of Webb’s sensitivity to infrared light, it can peer through cosmic dust to see these objects. Protostellar jets, which emerge clearly in this image, shoot out from some of these young stars. The youngest sources appear as red dots in the dark, dusty region of the cloud. Objects in the earliest, rapid phases of star formation are difficult to capture, but Webb’s extreme sensitivity, spatial resolution, and imaging capability can chronicle these elusive events.

These observations of NGC 3324 will shed light on the process of star formation. Star birth propagates over time, triggered by the expansion of the eroding cavity. As the bright, ionized rim moves into the nebula, it slowly pushes into the gas and dust. If the rim encounters any unstable material, the increased pressure will trigger the material to collapse and form new stars.

Conversely, this type of disturbance may also prevent star formation as the star-making material is eroded away. This is a very delicate balance between sparking star formation and stopping it. Webb will address some of the great, open questions of modern astrophysics: What determines the number of stars that form in a certain region? Why do stars form with a certain mass?

Webb will also reveal the impact of star formation on the evolution of gigantic clouds of gas and dust. While the effect of massive stars – with their violent winds and high energy – is often apparent, less is known about the influence of the more numerous low-mass stars. As they form, these smaller stars create narrow, opposing jets seen here, which can inject a lot of momentum and energy into the clouds. This reduces the fraction of nebular material that seeds new stars.

Up to this point, scientists have had very little data about the influence of the multitude of young and more energetic low-mass stars. With Webb, they will be able to obtain a full census of their number and impact throughout the nebula.

Located roughly 7,600 light-years away, NGC 3324 was imaged by Webb’s Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam) and Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI).

NIRCam – with its crisp resolution and unparalleled sensitivity – unveils hundreds of previously hidden stars, and even numerous background galaxies.

In MIRI’s view, young stars and their dusty, planet-forming disks shine brightly in the mid-infrared, appearing pink and red. MIRI reveals structures that are embedded in the dust and uncovers the stellar sources of massive jets and outflows. With MIRI, the hot dust, hydrocarbons, and other chemical compounds on the surface of the ridges glow, giving the appearance of jagged rocks.

NGC 3324 was first catalogued by James Dunlop in 1826. Visible from the Southern Hemisphere, it is located at the northwest corner of the Carina Nebula (NGC 3372), which resides in the constellation Carina. The Carina Nebula is home to the Keyhole Nebula and the active, unstable supergiant star called Eta Carinae.
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I was just about to post something about this. The photo's are absolutely stunning! One thing is for sure, God sure created some beautiful artwork, I am so thankful to be alive at a time where we get to see this!
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:16 PM   #7
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I was just about to post something about this. The photo's are absolutely stunning! One thing is for sure, God sure created some beautiful artwork, I am so thankful to be alive at a time where we get to see this!
You read my mind. It's amazing.
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Old 07-12-2022, 01:25 PM   #8
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All that technology…. And I can’t get phone service
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Sure would like to see some of the life on those other planets one day.
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I was just about to post something about this. The photo's are absolutely stunning! One thing is for sure, God sure created some beautiful artwork, I am so thankful to be alive at a time where we get to see this!

Imagine what heaven must look like.
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Absolutely amazing!
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So apparently there is a 100 MB, 1000 plus picture compilation of two stars crashing? If anyone knows where I can find it, please let me know.

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Old 07-12-2022, 10:34 PM   #14
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If the chances were one in a million, it's a better chance than the sun rising in the morning.

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Very impressive pictures indeed, having helped in just a little way with some of that technologies, is very gratifying for sure. as with S.O.F.I.A, which gave us some of the first Inferred images/Pictures of the unseen universe was awesome, now as it has flown its last mission, and the new technology immerges with these awesome pictures... feels good to be able to say. i had a minute hand in it.... it's amazes me the wonders that are out there.. for sure..
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I just want Biden out and for us to take our country back... Put GOD first again.. But cool pics IF they are real...
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Earth is flat , space isn’t real.


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NASA gets over 40 million a day from tax payers…. What are they doing ….. Hhmm flat earth


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They spend most of it making fake videos of moon landing. Only the real smart people like yourself got it figured out. Its all a scam.


The jig is up. I guess I should start looking for a new place of employment.
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https://twitter.com/myunclesmemes/st...13976659472384

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The evidence is all over the earth. The earliest of human writings to cave art.
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The evidence is all over the earth. The earliest of human writings to cave art.
The Bible doesn't read that way. And the only Jesus of Nazareth that exists is a human.
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Amazing images no doubt but 2 things come to my mind


1) How are we seeing galaxies as they existed 4.6 billion years ago? I’m simple minded so can someone explain that please and
2) we may actually find something out there we may not want to find! Ever think about that? The
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And to think that it's absolutely certain that our oceans will evaporate and eventually the Earth will be engulfed by the Sun as it becomes a Red Giant.

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1. The speed of light is constant and there are methods to determine relative brightness of an object. As an example, if you had a 40W bulb at 10 ft and 10000 ft, you could sense the measured brightness at 10 ft vs 10000ft and make a fairly accurate estimate.

2. I have, and its as exciting as it is scary!
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Is it me or does the photo seam to hint at a rotation of the stars about the center?



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What you see in that photo is gravitational lensing / distortion. Its basically the observed power of gravity to bend light. Its pretty crazy.
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They spend most of it making fake videos of moon landing. Only the real smart people like yourself got it figured out. Its all a scam.


The jig is up. I guess I should start looking for a new place of employment.

I’m glad you pointed it out. It’s funny how everyone doesn’t trust the government, or media but sure believe what the media and government try to tell you.


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Dang it, now I need to go bust out the telescope and do some star gazing!


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The Bible doesn't read that way. And the only Jesus of Nazareth that exists is a human.
I agree that Jesus is the only way to salvation for us on earth. However, I am going to have to politely disagree that the Bible doesnt open up possibilities of life outside of our planet. However, that life would be suject to Gods authority in my opinion. Look at the following:

For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. Col 1:16

Genius 1 and John 1 explain God is in control of all things.

We are also taught in Romans 11, 1 Cor 2, and from God's response to Job, that we will not understand His ways.

The language used in the book of Revelation discribes a lot of creatures and scenarios that seem beyond our realm.

Even the spirt world alone, is housed somewhere, not sure that is heaven as some spirits are evil.

I personally dont believe in aliens, but I just can not be on board with putting limits placed on Gods power or ability by saying...."it's not in the Bible." We are humans and dont get to understand everything, plus not everything was recorded. Faith is dependent on trusting Gods promises and through Jesus blood.

God is good. And limitless in his power, IMO.
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Absolutely amazing. How does one not believe there is a GOD. So amazing.
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Wait you really believe the earth is flat?
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I definitely don't trust the gov or media. Not sure they had a lot of influence on folks like Aristotle who were the first to discover that the earth was round. I have an open mind but the things I've seen about flat earth have not been believable...at least not in my feeble mind. I'd be glad to review it if you want to post some of your most compelling evidence.
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Wait you really believe the earth is flat?
I learned from a couple guys in PACE that you must prove it's round. No pictures, testimonies, or logic. Absolute proof. Proven in a court of law, no a higher court.

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I agree that Jesus is the only way to salvation for us on earth. However, I am going to have to politely disagree that the Bible doesnt open up possibilities of life outside of our planet. However, that life would be suject to Gods authority in my opinion. Look at the following:

For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. Col 1:16

Genius 1 and John 1 explain God is in control of all things.

We are also taught in Romans 11, 1 Cor 2, and from God's response to Job, that we will not understand His ways.

The language used in the book of Revelation discribes a lot of creatures and scenarios that seem beyond our realm.

Even the spirt world alone, is housed somewhere, not sure that is heaven as some spirits are evil.

I personally dont believe in aliens, but I just can not be on board with putting limits placed on Gods power or ability by saying...."it's not in the Bible." We are humans and dont get to understand everything, plus not everything was recorded. Faith is dependent on trusting Gods promises and through Jesus blood.

God is good. And limitless in his power, IMO.
What I said was that the Bible doesn't read like there are other, physical, embodied species somewhere out there in the universe with whom God has a relationship. The Bible reads like the only life God has is the life that he has with Earth-bound Humans. Nothing in what I said indicated that I believe there are limits to God's power or ability. I simply said that the Bible doesn't read like there are other, non-human, ensouled (I created a new word there) creatures for whom God is working out salvation. As the Bible reads, the only life God has is the life that he has with Humans. (Contrast that with, say, Allah, who, apparently does have a life - or lives - with other creatures in other dimensions). I, too, believe that God is omnipotent; even though there isn't a verse that says that.
If there are other embodied, ensouled creatures in the universe (that God would have been the creator of), and if they are free-willed, and if His end-goal for them is everlasting, glorious Life, then He would have to deal with the issue of Sin for them, just as with us. The only way for Him to do that would be to go to those creatures as one of them - "in the likeness of sinful (Martian) flesh" - living and dying as one of them; and then being resurrected and embodied as one of them, everlastingly living with them as that embodied, glorified Martian (or whatever). That is how it is being worked out for us Humans. It would have to be the same for the Martians. That scenario creates all sorts of problems. For example, what would be done with "...that he gave his only begotten Son..."? The Jesus being spoken of in Colossians 1 is the once-dead, now-resurrected, glorified, embodied, Human Jesus: God's only Biblically-recorded plan from before He created anything.

It's true that we don't understand all of God's ways. But it's not true that we don't understand any of His ways. He has explained some of His ways to us. The Book of Revelation was written to First Century Believers with the intended purpose of their understanding. So whatever the visions of Revelation are about, God's (and John's) assumption was that those First Century Believers would understand them. (I'm happy to talk about Revelation. But that's a whole other topic.)

I think that Earth is the "Visited Planet" and no other. (Google The Visited Planet by JB Phillips) Pursue me further if you wish.
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Now how in the world (or not the world i guess?) are they taking photos billions of lightyears away but my game camera is blurry when deer walks past at a brisk pace?
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I was only joking about the fake moon landing.

I'm not believing things because my government tells me so.

I have seen with my own eyes other planets that are round. I can observe them in a telescope rotate about their axis. Why would I think our rock is any different then those?
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Wait you really believe the earth is a globe? Have you seen it with your own eyes?

Holy crap are you really a flat earther? I didn't think we had any of those on TBH.
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Sure would like to see some of the life on those other planets one day.
She may not be as pretty as you think. Might even identify as something else.
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Old 07-14-2022, 11:58 AM   #49
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Wait, this is for real?

I really want to hear more of this flat earth theory!!!


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Everyone owes it to themselves to binge some flat earth videos on YouTube. You can spend days on the subject. Just be sure to watch a 5 minute video debunking the whole thing when you're done.
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