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Old 09-15-2020, 02:50 PM   #1
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Anybody else having trouble with cattle getting over their hog panel protein pens? This was a deadly incident for five Akaushi (Wagyu) cattle. We just had the feeders filled, two days later the cattle got in and knocked over one of our 1250lb Krivoman feeders. They gorged themselves on the protein and never made it back out of the pen.

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Old 09-15-2020, 02:52 PM   #2
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Oh man, that’s not good at all!!
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Old 09-15-2020, 02:54 PM   #3
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OUCH, that really sucks. Hate to see that happen to any animals but those were some high dollar cows!
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Old 09-15-2020, 02:55 PM   #4
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wow!

Cattle proof you have 2 options: 4 strand barb wire or true height cattle panels
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Old 09-15-2020, 02:56 PM   #5
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I thought they made that up for Yellowstone. Didn't know a cow would really eat themselves to death.
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Old 09-15-2020, 02:59 PM   #6
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a strand of barb wire about 3-5"'s above the hog panel will keep them out.


who's footing the bill for the beeves?
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:00 PM   #7
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Were they your cows or the owner of the lease?
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:01 PM   #8
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I always used barbed wire. Now with the hog problems and everyone using short panels I wondered how often this happened. I would 4 strand it- Too bad you didn’t have water station in there they probably would have made it.
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They tore mine up several times this year. Finally bit the bullet and had 2” pipe pen built and that stopped the problem. Told wife we waste money on protein to feed cows or on pen so deer can get it.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:02 PM   #10
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Holy smokes!
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:02 PM   #11
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Cattle panels.


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Old 09-15-2020, 03:03 PM   #12
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man imagine how well those akaushi would have tasted after eating all that feed, right before they died.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:05 PM   #13
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That is wild.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:07 PM   #14
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Welded up lometa panels work wonders ( cattle can’t push the tops down like straight cattle panels )

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Old 09-15-2020, 03:09 PM   #15
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$$$$ for someone
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:09 PM   #16
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Crazy. Never seen that in all my years. I had them destroy a feed pen for alfalfa my uncle placed inside. Don't ever do that folks. Fact is, some cows are more curious and destructive than others.

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Old 09-15-2020, 03:11 PM   #17
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kamacowzis?!
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:12 PM   #18
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The story I came up with from the picture was that the feeder landed on a deer and killed it!! Then I read the story. Little let down really.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:17 PM   #19
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Actual cattle panels. That said, we need to know more details. Couple wagyu cows can get expensive
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:18 PM   #20
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:18 PM   #21
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That sucks!!!
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:19 PM   #22
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Actual cattle panels. That said, we need to know more details. Couple wagyu cows can get expensive
Thats my thought as well. That just got expensive to somebody.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:21 PM   #23
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Stop feeding protein is the only fix I have seen. I had them flatten a 5 strand fence w real corners. Rebuilt it and put up two strands of hot wire tape with the baddest solar charger they make and 2 6’ ground rods. They were inside in 10 minutes of us leaving. I have pics of them eating the hot fence tape. We quit feeding protein until the landowner sold that group of cows. Once they find it there is no keeping them out.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:21 PM   #24
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Sux. Painful death for sure. I'd add barbwire to top of pen, put some ribbon on it until the wildlife/cattle gets used to it. Do you have a cell cameras to watch the pens for awhile?
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:23 PM   #25
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:23 PM   #26
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Level 5 dad joke right there.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:25 PM   #27
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Tried that on another pen. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, these cattle can clear full height cattle panel with a strand of barbed wire above.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:27 PM   #28
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My first thought is lower the carrying capacity for cattle. Only see dirt in picture. If cows are hungry not much will stop them. The pen looks kind of small. Maybe a bigger pen would keep them away from it. Once they jumped in they probably didn't want to jump out so they just kept eating.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:29 PM   #29
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We have cell cams out on several feeders, but this particular pen is on a low spot and doesn't get good service.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:30 PM   #30
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Thats my thought as well. That just got expensive to somebody.
Our landowners usually blame the oil field trash like plastic netting and rope And most of the dead cattle have plastic in their stomachs
Here is a a cow eating some rope it’s hanging out both ends and
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:32 PM   #31
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I'm just the lease manager. It was a phone call I didn't want to make to the landowner.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:34 PM   #32
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I'm just the lease manager. It was a phone call I didn't want to make to the landowner.
What did the landowner say?
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:41 PM   #33
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:51 PM   #34
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What did the landowner say?

Doubt it gets past the swear filter


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Cut the top strand off the panel making spikes sticking up...they'll stop leaning on it.
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:55 PM   #36
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What did the landowner say?
^^^^ this...Ö..I'm real curious to see how this plays out.
Somebody's out some money.
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:00 PM   #37
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Problem with barbed wire on a feed pen is the runs are so short that itís hard to get the fence tight (even with h braces) the wire just doesnít have enough length to stretch and work like itís supposed to. I can promise you a 4strand barbed wire fence wonít keep them out if they want in. If a cow can get her head between the wires they can/will go thru it.
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:00 PM   #38
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a strand of barb wire about 3-5"'s above the hog panel will keep them out.


who's footing the bill for the beeves?

Nope. I have two strands one at 6" above the other at 12" and the bastages raid me every day


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Old 09-15-2020, 04:04 PM   #39
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Some expensive ground beef.

Most prefer it already packaged though
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:12 PM   #40
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Why not just by the welded cattle panels that are 10ft section that you pin together with wire on the bottom. Then just put a T post at every joint. i have seen them they are usually a 1" pipe frame like hootens or Priefert panels that then have standard 4x4 cattle panel welded on the bottomn section. That way they are portable and will keep pigs and cattle out.

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Old 09-15-2020, 04:15 PM   #41
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You sent hog panels to do a cattle panels job.


I’d be surprised if the landowner doesn’t kick y’all off, and make you pay for his loss.


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Old 09-15-2020, 04:19 PM   #42
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I would send the landowner a bill for damage to the feeder and lost protein!
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:20 PM   #43
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Buy and cry once, cattle panels and barbed wire will be pushed down or loose
Welded panels also work better in rocky county and are easy to move

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Old 09-15-2020, 04:24 PM   #44
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Cannot remember the exact name but they call them cow oaks maybe water oaks and the cows would eat till there belly's were so full it kill them.
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:35 PM   #45
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You sent hog panels to do a cattle panels job.


Iíd be surprised if the landowner doesnít kick yíall off, and make you pay for his loss.


Good luck.
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Wow, that is crazy.
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Old 09-15-2020, 05:07 PM   #47
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Tried that on another pen. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, these cattle can clear full height cattle panel with a strand of barbed wire above.
This right here. In addition I added a perimeter of hot wire about 4-5ft out from the feed pen. I saw a cow jump the hot wire, hit the ground and bounce right into the feed pen. I never would have believed it if I hadnt seen it happen. I gave up on protein in that pasture at that point. The cows won in 2011.
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Old 09-15-2020, 05:22 PM   #48
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What did the landowner say?
That it was an unfortunate event. We've discussed it several times. It can't happen again and we need to make sure we resolve the pen issue.
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Old 09-15-2020, 05:39 PM   #49
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Weíve had similar issues. Started making square or rectangle pens with two deadman braces on each corner (each direction of the panels) that allow proper barbed wire stretching at 5-10 inches above a reg hog panel. This design has been good for us.

Hard to do a top strand with round pens.


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Old 09-15-2020, 05:47 PM   #50
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a strand of barb wire about 3-5"'s above the hog panel will keep them out.


who's footing the bill for the beeves?
I had to do this, I used 4 point wire. I didnít even want to climb over.
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