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Old 09-30-2018, 08:47 AM   #1
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Scenario: You're walking from your stand back to the truck. It's mid morning, and nothing has moved since dawn. You're weaving through the last 50 yard thicket when you hear noise. The trees are thick, so you drop into a catcher's crouch to see under the limbs, and see a hog rooting. Just as you grab an arrow it looks at you. No time to adjust your stance, it's shoot or go home empty.

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- One chance only!
- broadheads only, it's hunting season!
- plain white paper with a black dot in the middle as your aiming point
-13 yards
- shot is from a catchers crouch, both feet pointed straight at the target, chest straight at the target before you start your draw.
- you can substitute one knee on the ground if you wish for a 1" penalty
- but your torso needs to start pointing at the target... i.e. a line between your shoulders is perpendicular to the line between you and the target.

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The tape measure was twisting away from the paper when I tried to photograph. When I held it tight I was at 3 5/8"
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Old 09-30-2018, 09:50 AM   #2
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I like the imagination but I cant even get into a catcher's position
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Old 09-30-2018, 09:52 AM   #3
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I like the imagination but I cant even get into a catcher's position


And the guy who designed this shot is about 8’ tall!!!



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Old 09-30-2018, 02:41 PM   #4
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I like the imagination but I cant even get into a catcher's position

LOL, counts me out too.

No way I can crouch like that, and even if I could I couldn't twist for the shot. I'd be to busy just trying to stay upright, THEN I'd have to call 911 to get helped back up.

You youngsters have fun with this. Don't let us old farts drag you down.

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Old 09-30-2018, 03:31 PM   #5
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Ok, I'm calling an audible then. I don't want to discriminate against bad backs or knees!
Alternative shot is to cant the bow over 45 degrees to shoot this. I want everyone to be able to shoot!
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:33 PM   #6
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And the guy who designed this shot is about 8’ tall!!!



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Lol, hey Bisch! Nice 11 pointer you whacked yesterday! And I'm not THAT tall! I can still walk through doors normally
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Okay, just shot this challenge as originally stated from catcher's squat. Didn't turn torso enough, apparently: 5-3/4" due left -- ear-holed him!!


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Old 09-30-2018, 06:14 PM   #8
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For fun, tried a second shot standing, with a radical cant of over 45 degrees: didn't take pic of that, but it was just beside the first one.

So, I couldn't stop on that. Third shot was a charm for the outlined situation -- for me, anyway: shot from one knee with ordinary slight bow cant (maybe 5 degrees): didn't measure, but it's just below the spot. Happy with that.

There is a lesson that I learned from this challenge: if confronted with a hunting situation calling for an unconventional stance -- say something low, through a gap in the brush -- I need to at least get to a one-knee stance to produce a reliable result. Twisting torso or canting bow doesn't work for me -- at least not without specific practice on those things, which I don't think I would trust, anyway.



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Old 09-30-2018, 06:49 PM   #9
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Yeah I would attempt to halfway get into position or have to pass. I'm not that good yet.

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Old 09-30-2018, 07:53 PM   #10
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Okay, just shot this challenge as originally stated from catcher's squat. Didn't turn torso enough, apparently: 5-3/4" due left -- ear-holed him!!


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You couldn’t have ear-holed him. He was facing to the right!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

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Old 09-30-2018, 08:30 PM   #11
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You couldn’t have ear-holed him. He was facing to the right!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

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Yeah, well, Malachi didn't say which way HIS hog was facing, and I happen to know that MY hog facing to the left.
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Old 09-30-2018, 08:43 PM   #12
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There is a lesson that I learned from this challenge: if confronted with a hunting situation calling for an unconventional stance -- say something low, through a gap in the brush -- I need to at least get to a one-knee stance to produce a reliable result. Twisting torso or canting bow doesn't work for me -- at least not without specific practice on those things, which I don't think I would trust, anyway.
This is precisely why I like this challenge. It's easy to get caught in a rut with our shooting, and I've had a couple situations in the field where I didn't have the experience to take or make the hero shot.

It's good to know our limits on these twisting angles! Great shot once you got it dialed in! I shoot way better from one knee as well.
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:37 AM   #13
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Great call Malachai!

Good shooting Guys.
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:35 AM   #14
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While, I can't imagine not being able to go ahead on to at least one knee, I just had to give this a try. It wasn't as hard a I thought it would be.

I'll get over the back & knee pain in a couple of days (hopefully).

You young guys enjoy the flexibility while you can.

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Do I get extra credit for being crouched & canted?

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Old 10-01-2018, 11:47 AM   #15
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Good shot Rick! Had to get the back brace on for that one aye?

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Old 10-01-2018, 12:43 PM   #16
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Good shot Rick! Had to get the back brace on for that one aye?

Gary
Thanks Gary.

Already had it on (working on the remodel), but thought it might help, so I left it on. I actually think it hindered my twist a bit.

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Old 10-01-2018, 01:12 PM   #17
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Getting old isn't for the weak in spirit. Just keep walking all over it and you have it licked .

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Old 10-01-2018, 01:39 PM   #18
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I know it DQs my shot but I don't shoot my broadheads at home.
So I just took the shot from the required distance and position. Shot my Widow for it. Had been a few days since she came off the rack. I can live with the shot.

The pig prolly couldn't though.

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Old 10-01-2018, 04:24 PM   #19
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I'm not shooting broad heads yet so auto DQ here also. I did get a lot of practice in this weekend. I'm getting a lot more comfortable with the fundamentals and haven't lost an arrow in awhile.

Crouching tiger hidden jackrabbit shot surprised me! I'll take it. Right at 3".





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Old 10-01-2018, 04:25 PM   #20
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While, I can't imagine not being able to go ahead on to at least one knee, I just had to give this a try. It wasn't as hard a I thought it would be.

I'll get over the back & knee pain in a couple of days (hopefully).

You young guys enjoy the flexibility while you can.

Edit:
Can't get TBH to embed the video, so here's the link.
https://youtu.be/ET5IQegSwXc

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Do I get extra credit for being crouched & canted?

Rick


I'm beginning to think some of you shoot "guided missles"

Nice shooting.
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Old 10-01-2018, 04:45 PM   #21
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Nice shootin', y'all!
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Old 10-01-2018, 05:14 PM   #22
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Hooray for the old farts! Well done!
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Old 10-01-2018, 05:19 PM   #23
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That's one thing I like about that Widow. I can shoot it canted and the closer the more cant works.

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Old 10-01-2018, 05:53 PM   #24
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Yesterday shot was 4-5" I guess so I didn't bother measuring it. Today was 2" to the center of the circle. Circle got a little washed out from the dew last night and I just did get today's shot in! Got a little shower!




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Old 10-01-2018, 05:56 PM   #25
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Little man wanted to shoot it too so why not! So glad he likes shooting with me! He was 2 9/16". Not bad for first shot of the day!!



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Good shots Cattlelack, Slew and Little Man.

Awesome shot Rick.

I got some practice shots in. Nothing closer than 3”. Ill have a true go tomorrow.
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Great shot Rick!

Glad to see so many of you guys shooting this one.
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:26 AM   #28
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5 1/2”

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My paper with the dot got ruined in the rain yesterday so I just shot the yellow dot on the pig from last weeks shot. Measuring to the center of the tape dot. 1 5/8"


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Good shot slew.

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I don't have enough posts to attach a photo(which I have), but as a rank amateur, I put one 2" from the dot in a full crouch, both toes at the target from 13 yards. I'm happy as can be with that!
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I don't have enough posts to attach a photo(which I have), but as a rank amateur, I put one 2" from the dot in a full crouch, both toes at the target from 13 yards. I'm happy as can be with that!
That's great! It's not an easy shot by any means! My wife thought i had a poop cramp squatting down in the yard with my bow getting ready to shoot!
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Good shooting Slew. Welcome Jaybird.

Anybody elses anchor change when shooting this shot? How did it change? I normally hook my jawbone with my thumb but squaring and squatting at the target...I couldnt do that. My finger positioning was close but not the same.

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When I angle my bow I have to adjust my head angle to match. It's odd because I have to shoot one now pretty much straight up to be somewhat accurate and the other I have to cant to achieve the same goal.

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When I angle my bow I have to adjust my head angle to match. It's odd because I have to shoot one now pretty much straight up to be somewhat accurate and the other I have to cant to achieve the same goal.

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Did you have to lay your head over?
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More of a lean from the waist. The shot was painful in the lower back to shoot. The bend and twist. With the legs squared to target the lower limb was between my knees. Not ideal and honestly when getting set I had my doubts.

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Id be nervous too shooting with a dynamic lower limb that close to my dynamic lower limb(s).
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Id be nervous too shooting with a dynamic lower limb that close to my dynamic lower limb(s).
My "draw length" is pretty short. There was little danger.

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Malachi is probably hunting, so I'll offer congrats to Rick on his under 1" shot. Call us a nice non-chiropractic shot for Week 41, Rick!
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Malachi is probably hunting, so I'll offer congrats to Rick on his under 1" shot. Call us a nice non-chiropractic shot for Week 41, Rick!
I was actually sanding boards all day today. Thanks for wrapping this up for me! I apologize for the back pain I caused this week.
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