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Old 10-10-2018, 07:33 PM   #301
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:33 PM   #302
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I have heard about Dan Infalt a lot as I have just recently started getting into the public land deer hunting. I have always been a duck hunter and just took a while to talk my self into spending some time hunting something other then ducks. Where can I find his tactics? Does he have a book or website? I would love to learn some new ways of approaching this.


He runs “The Hunting Beast” forum, and also has produced a video series. I believe all the videos are available on his forum site.
I really liked the marsh bucks and hill country bucks videos. The production value isn’t professional TV stuff, but the information in them is awesome.
Also, if you join the site... there is a thread titled “all time best tactical threads” with links to individual threads. Consider that list of links a public land hunting bible. They are that good. It will easily set you 5-10 years ahead on your hunting journey.


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Old 10-10-2018, 09:00 PM   #303
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It wasn’t even the seminar...
it was me and @davet1963 exclusively with Dan for the whole weekend.

He didn’t really get it the first couple days, but he had a firm grasp by the end of the weekend. He quickly adapted what he was showing us, and how he explained it.


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How did you get hooked up with Dan directly? That's pretty sweet.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:02 PM   #304
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I wonder if those Iowa and Wisconsin deer taste different than ours. I feel a fact finding mission happening. Maybe I can get funding from the Wisconsin DNR.
My wife is from western WI. Her dad's got 15 acres to hunt. I've only hunted in once and we didn't see anything. Very hilly terrain, super cold. They are gun hunters only and only hunt like 9 days/year. We also did deer drives through the big woods once. It was not my thing at all.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:07 PM   #305
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Absolutely!!! I found Dan Infalt 4 seasons ago, and it started making me ask “why” every time I saw something. I went this past March with another TBH’er for a FULL weekend of 2 on 1 with Dan himself. We scouted Friday after Dan got off work, and dang near all day Saturday and Sunday. It really solidified a lot of what his site had taught me over the years. There are definitely some major differences between beast “rules” and how our deer bed here.

Our deer densities are WAY lower than they are in the Midwest. This means we can’t really narrow a single buck bed down to the dominant deer like Dan does. There are so many bucks competing for bedding in Wisconsin, only the oldest and most dominant bucks get the best of the best beds. There is also a lot more defining features limiting bedding. Their topography in hill country is so much more exaggerated than any “hills” we have in Texas, that wind and thermals REALLY define bedding locations. Their marshes also heavily limit bedding spots because bucks have to bed where there is dry dirt.



The tactics they teach are definitely applicable, but we come up dry in many situations where there would definitely always be a bed in the Midwest. There aren’t ANYWHERE near as many bucks competing for that bedding here, our wind/thermal interactions are much more subtle, and our grasslands and floodplain areas (though a fairly good analogy to marsh) don’t limit bucks bed choices nearly as much as the water does in the cattails of Wisconsin.



Beast style tactics definitely up your chances at a buck dramatically, but you really need to expect to fail at them for a couple years. I didn’t really get confident at setting up based on maps and a January/February scouting session only, and really EXPECTING an interaction with something coming from the bed I scouted, until last year. (My 3rd year hunting and scouting beast style heavily)




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As I've started following Dan and THP, I've assumed the deer bed a bit differently here than in the Midwest but also assumed there are some principals that will cross over. Those guys are also real big on being mobile, which is the number 1 tactic I'm implementing this year. I'm planning on going in with a stand on my back each sit and bouncing around until I run into one. That and having the wind in my face as much as possible, throwing in some off winds as well. I'm excited to see what happens. Either way, I love being in the woods and learning!
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:39 PM   #306
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My wife is from western WI. Her dad's got 15 acres to hunt. I've only hunted in once and we didn't see anything. Very hilly terrain, super cold. They are gun hunters only and only hunt like 9 days/year. We also did deer drives through the big woods once. It was not my thing at all.


I hunt Wisconsin. Deer taste the same to me. My wife is from Green Bay.


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Old 10-10-2018, 09:45 PM   #307
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How did you get hooked up with Dan directly? That's pretty sweet.


He offers a 1 on 1 scouting session a few times a year, and me and daveT split the fee, flew up there, and split the rental car and hotel room.
It was fairly pricey, but there’s nothing like learning directly from a master.

Edit: in fact, these videos on his site are from our scouting trip... I even videoed one of them.

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Old 10-10-2018, 10:53 PM   #308
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I too have been reading his work and watched many of his videos. However, I am pretty green at public land as well. I will say in my scouting I did find deer and deer sign in the areas (from how I understood it) they stated to look. I hoping more time in the field and scouting at the end of the season it will come together. Hopefully, before the end of the season.
I did go out today. Saw nothing, heard a few get spooked a ways off. Still a good day to be out there.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:58 PM   #309
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Activity report. Sat 18 hours in a stand hunting this cold front from Weds-Tonight
8:30AM & 11:30AM both days. Weds & Thurs.
They were out gathering acorns. Brought 1 home for some dumplings
🦌 Non-existent Weds.
8:21AM-8:45AM, Then again @ 7:15PM. Out eating acorns. No shot opportunities.
Non-existent Weds.
7:19PM on Thurs. 200lb+ sow. Came in to 10yrds. Too dark to pick a hole thru the brush to get a shot.
9:30AM-Thursday. Roosted in the tree next to
Me Until I moved.
Gonna try to hit it again one last time in the morning before the rains.


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Old 10-11-2018, 11:01 PM   #310
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Activity report. Sat 18 hours in a stand hunting this cold front from Weds-Tonight
8:30AM & 11:30AM both days. Weds & Thurs.
They were out gathering acorns. Brought 1 home for some dumplings
🦌 Non-existent Weds.
8:21AM-8:45AM, Then again @ 7:15PM. Out eating acorns. No shot opportunities.
Non-existent Weds.
7:19PM on Thurs. 200lb+ sow. Came in to 10yrds. Too dark to pick a hole thru the brush to get a shot.
9:30AM-Thursday. Roosted in the tree next to
Me Until I moved.
Gonna try to hit it again one last time in the morning before the rains.


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Old 10-12-2018, 08:05 AM   #311
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I sat from 10am till 730pm last night. Passed a doe with a small buck. Was hoping to see her get chased some more by larger bucks! Then thwack about 150yds away. Seen the small buck on the way out. No doe...
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:33 AM   #312
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The forecast is showing a HIGH of 45 on Monday.... I know where I will be for Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday!


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Old 10-12-2018, 10:19 AM   #313
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I sat from 10am till 730pm last night. Passed a doe with a small buck. Was hoping to see her get chased some more by larger bucks! Then thwack about 150yds away. Seen the small buck on the way out. No doe...
THWACK. That's funny. Surprised you heard it!
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Old 10-12-2018, 02:16 PM   #314
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If the plans work, I'll be out next Wednesday evening for a Thursday and Friday hunt, of course weather is calling for rain.
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:20 PM   #315
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For all of you on FB check out the LBJ Grasslands Deer Hunters page. How many are already members?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1763066240400624/
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Old 10-12-2018, 03:27 PM   #316
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Stop it Froggy!!! No deer at LBJ

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Old 10-12-2018, 03:48 PM   #317
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Any confirmed LBJ bucks killed yet?


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Old 10-12-2018, 04:19 PM   #318
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Old 10-12-2018, 05:13 PM   #319
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Old 10-12-2018, 05:18 PM   #320
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Yep. But it was in 1997. I killed the last one in 2006. Haven't seen a deer on the place since. Guess they got shot out. So everbody might as well save your gas money and stay home.
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Old 10-12-2018, 05:21 PM   #321
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1 button, 1 doe, 2 pigs that I know of


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Old 10-12-2018, 05:24 PM   #322
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Yep. But it was in 1997. I killed the last one in 2006. Haven't seen a deer on the place since. Guess they got shot out. So everbody might as well save your gas money and stay home.


Perfect response.

I just wish there were deer out there.


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Old 10-12-2018, 05:28 PM   #323
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Perfect response.

I just wish there were deer out there.


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There used to be. I got proof.

https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...pictureid=1412


But like I said, they've all been shot out now.
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Old 10-12-2018, 06:18 PM   #324
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There used to be. I got proof.

https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...pictureid=1412


But like I said, they've all been shot out now.
Y'all are making this pathetic hunter feel even worse. I've been out there probably 10-12 times in the last 4 years and have only seen a doe crossing the road on my way home.
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:04 PM   #325
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Y'all are making this pathetic hunter feel even worse. I've been out there probably 10-12 times in the last 4 years and have only seen a doe crossing the road on my way home.
Don't feel bad... not only is public land hunting hard, but it is exceptionally hard with the amount of pressure LBJ sees and how low our deer densities are.

I would say it is best to spend at least 3-4 hours scouting for every hour you intend to spend in the stand. I like to spend even more time scouting than that. If I hit a property I have never been on during the season, I may spend a full day or two scouting it before I decide to throw a sit at something. Otherwise, I will spend 2-3 FULL days in post season scouting per 300-400 acres of areas of interest, and I will toss in a 4-5 hour speed scout mid-summer to verify what I found in February and March. Often times, after all that, I end up skipping the area altogether due to lack of sign. Having scouted so intensively for 4 or 5 years, I am getting more of a gut feeling for properties and learning what areas to not even worry about checking.

It is kind of like fishing... 90% of the fish are in 10% of the water.
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Old 10-12-2018, 07:30 PM   #326
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It is kind of like fishing... 90% of the fish are in 10% of the water.
^^^This. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of us don't see deer most sits? I get one or two decent opportunities a season if I'm lucky.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:38 PM   #327
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^^^This. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of us don't see deer most sits? I get one or two decent opportunities a season if I'm lucky.


Opportunities at good bucks or talking about any deer ?


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Very good explanation. Thank you!
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:11 AM   #329
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For me I meant shot opportunities at a legal deer (e.g., doe, spike, or 13"+). I'd say on average I see a deer maybe 1 out of every 4 sits. From your posts though I can tell you have a way better compass for finding deer than me
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:16 AM   #330
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I have had opportunities at a legal deer about 70% of my sits, but that includes Texas and Oklahoma public. Probably a bit lower percentages on LBJ than my overall.


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Old 10-13-2018, 12:21 AM   #331
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I thought doe could only be taken during thanksgiving. Are you allowed during archery season also?
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:39 AM   #332
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I thought doe could only be taken during thanksgiving. Are you allowed during archery season also?


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Old 10-13-2018, 01:40 AM   #333
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For me I meant shot opportunities at a legal deer (e.g., doe, spike, or 13"+). I'd say on average I see a deer maybe 1 out of every 4 sits. From your posts though I can tell you have a way better compass for finding deer than me
i had a fun opener for sure but didnt see any legal bucks out of 8 cameras i have scattered over the units only 1 was really active the rest was luck in new spots
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Old 10-13-2018, 11:25 PM   #334
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^^^This. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of us don't see deer most sits? I get one or two decent opportunities a season if I'm lucky.
That'd be true for me.
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Old 10-13-2018, 11:31 PM   #335
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Yes you are allowed does during archery season.
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Old 10-14-2018, 02:57 PM   #336
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Anyone else going out tomorrow to catch the 20° plus temperature drop? I know I am, @jnd1959 said he is, who else....?

Also, after reading the regulations, I can’t really tell if camping is restricted exclusively to developed areas or not... anyone know the regs on pitching a tent?


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Anyone else going out tomorrow to catch the 20° plus temperature drop? I know I am, @jnd1959 said he is, who else....?

Also, after reading the regulations, I can’t really tell if camping is restricted exclusively to developed areas or not... anyone know the regs on pitching a tent?


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Old 10-14-2018, 06:01 PM   #338
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Old 10-14-2018, 06:30 PM   #340
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Hey guys! New to this forum, just thought I would introduce myself. Im Alex and I live in Fort Worth. I had been wanting to join this thread a couple of years ago but I didn't have a bow. Two months ago I bought a bear cruzer g2 to get into archery and I love it! I have only ever hunted doves in the past and I really want to expand my hunting to other game. My main hunting grounds are the grasslands as I don't have money for a lease and I think the difficulty of the hunt will make me a better hunter altogether.

I went out last Thursday and spent the night. I got rained on really heavily early on Friday and stayed for the afternoon hunt. Sitting up against a tree, a small buck came up to me at about 20 yards. He didn't look like a shooter. He walked off and reappeared with a spike. Nightfall came and I took off for camp. Looking at the radar, I decided to pack up that night.

I have been itching to go out again but the weather does not look too promising. I have done a bit of scouting over the summer and decided on a unit with decent sign of deer. I saw two does and a hog there a couple of months ago so I figured it was a good unit. I only have one game camera that I'm still uneasy putting out there. Im looking to find a partner or a few people to hunt with as I don't know too many people who even want to hunt in the grasslands. Ive got a ground blind and a tree stand if that matters. It would be really cool to meet people and just have a good time hunting together and helping each other. This is sounding kind of sappy so ill just post this now

Thanks guys and happy hunting!
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Old 10-14-2018, 06:45 PM   #341
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Hey guys! New to this forum, just thought I would introduce myself. Im Alex and I live in Fort Worth. I had been wanting to join this thread a couple of years ago but I didn't have a bow. Two months ago I bought a bear cruzer g2 to get into archery and I love it! I have only ever hunted doves in the past and I really want to expand my hunting to other game. My main hunting grounds are the grasslands as I don't have money for a lease and I think the difficulty of the hunt will make me a better hunter altogether.

I went out last Thursday and spent the night. I got rained on really heavily early on Friday and stayed for the afternoon hunt. Sitting up against a tree, a small buck came up to me at about 20 yards. He didn't look like a shooter. He walked off and reappeared with a spike. Nightfall came and I took off for camp. Looking at the radar, I decided to pack up that night.

I have been itching to go out again but the weather does not look too promising. I have done a bit of scouting over the summer and decided on a unit with decent sign of deer. I saw two does and a hog there a couple of months ago so I figured it was a good unit. I only have one game camera that I'm still uneasy putting out there. Im looking to find a partner or a few people to hunt with as I don't know too many people who even want to hunt in the grasslands. Ive got a ground blind and a tree stand if that matters. It would be really cool to meet people and just have a good time hunting together and helping each other. This is sounding kind of sappy so ill just post this now

Thanks guys and happy hunting!


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Old 10-14-2018, 07:55 PM   #342
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Alarm is set for 3:00am, truck is packed, and the temp is dropping. Time for a COLD and miserable 3 days of hunting. Hopefully I stick something to make all the crappy weather worth it!


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Anyone else going out tomorrow to catch the 20° plus temperature drop? I know I am, @jnd1959 said he is, who else....?

Also, after reading the regulations, I can’t really tell if camping is restricted exclusively to developed areas or not... anyone know the regs on pitching a tent?


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I'm actually going out Tuesday. Big tax deadline tomorrow. Weather it's turkey deer or duck, I always seem to miss the good days due to deadlines. Good luck. Leave one for the Tuesday.
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Old 10-14-2018, 09:30 PM   #344
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I just asked LBJ worker and he said I could camp any unit.

Best thing to do is call the LBJ office.


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Caddo is designated, LBJ isn't
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Old 10-14-2018, 09:31 PM   #345
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Caddo is designated, LBJ isn't


And I asked for a spot for 20 people and they said anywhere.

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Old 10-15-2018, 12:14 AM   #346
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There is a great chance I will be out Mon-Thurs for some afternoon sits. Should be done working by 2pm everyday so it is go time again. My wife had to buy meat at the store today so I need to go get after it.


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Old 10-15-2018, 01:04 AM   #347
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Alarm is set for 3:00am, truck is packed, and the temp is dropping. Time for a COLD and miserable 3 days of hunting. Hopefully I stick something to make all the crappy weather worth it!


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Hope you packed your rain gear. Good luck!
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:11 PM   #348
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Well, I had to escape to the truck to dry off in the heat. The rain was coming in sideways this morning, and I had about 5 inches of exposed fabric between my inseam and belt. Needless to say, that wicked moisture all the way down to my socks. It was a COLD morning being soaked to the bone.

Pulled 2 cameras in the rain on the way out. Not much to speak of since September.
The radar looks like most of the heavy stuff is past for the day, so I will be heading back out in a couple hours. I might have to find a 24hour laundromat and dry everything if it keeps this up... I knew I should have found the money for waterproof pants.


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Old 10-15-2018, 12:15 PM   #349
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Well, I had to escape to the truck to dry off in the heat. The rain was coming in sideways this morning, and I had about 5 inches of exposed fabric between my inseam and belt. Needless to say, that wicked moisture all the way down to my socks. It was a COLD morning being soaked to the bone.

Pulled 2 cameras in the rain on the way out. Not much to speak of since September.
The radar looks like most of the heavy stuff is past for the day, so I will be heading back out in a couple hours. I might have to find a 24hour laundromat and dry everything if it keeps this up... I knew I should have found the money for waterproof pants.


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Good luck and keep us posted. I went to a laundromat last year in Decatur to dry some things after hanging a stand opening weekend last year. I think there's also one in Alvord which is probably closer but not sure on the hours.

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Old 10-15-2018, 05:04 PM   #350
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Well, I had to escape to the truck to dry off in the heat. The rain was coming in sideways this morning, and I had about 5 inches of exposed fabric between my inseam and belt. Needless to say, that wicked moisture all the way down to my socks. It was a COLD morning being soaked to the bone.

Pulled 2 cameras in the rain on the way out. Not much to speak of since September.
The radar looks like most of the heavy stuff is past for the day, so I will be heading back out in a couple hours. I might have to find a 24hour laundromat and dry everything if it keeps this up... I knew I should have found the money for waterproof pants.


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Nice determination! I bought a pop up blind and set it up last Friday. I didn't realize it needed poles for the roof and they were not included. I ended up needing to prop up the blind to keep from the cold rain and used my quiver to do so. Not the best morning of hunting and the rain got me pretty bad. Not to mention my left waterproof boot seemed to have a leak. I went back to nap until the storm let up and spooked 3 doe on my way back. Keep us posted!
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