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Old 09-08-2017, 08:16 PM   #51
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Glad to see this come to the surface. Always good to get the refresher before getting in the woods for whitetail. i know many who hunt year round for pig and exotics but still good to have the material refreshed. I will say last season I got my first few trad kills and the spike that made my first whitetail did not move until my arrow buried in the dirt beside him. I focused on a spot just above the elbow and be darned if it did not do just that. Problem was I was 20 ft up. He still went out quickly, but a good reminder if your elevated that arrow angle can get steep.
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Old 09-08-2017, 08:54 PM   #52
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I always preface "advise" with this is what works for me. So I'll throw these out there for what it's worth.

1. Shooting over deer. For a long time I probably missed high 70% of my shots. I kept aiming lower and still would miss over. I saw on another forum that sometimes you would sub consciously raise your head when you shot to see where your arrow goes and you end up shooting over. Now I have a mantra when I'm going to shoot "pick a spot and follow thru". I seldom shoot over now.

2. If you can do it, practice draw on live deer. When I do I critique myself after I let down.
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Old 09-08-2017, 09:04 PM   #53
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clicked on this just for the read and now I am wanting to try traditional.
Great thread swamprabbit.
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:15 PM   #54
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Good one to bring back up Scott! I think Chunky said it last year, but it won't hurt to be repeated. To me it is just as important for a newer trad hunters confidence to get consistently close (say within 15 yds) of game WITHOUT shootin, as it is to actually take that shot. My point is, get close, figure out what it takes to stay un-detected, what it would take to get a shot, and most importantly LEARN how deer act/react with each other, and their surroundings. And by all means LEARN when is a good time to take a shot, not just the shot angles, but the demeanor of the animal. You owe it to yourself, and the critter, not to take a shot at an animal that "knows something's up", is nervous, wired for sound, etc. You practiced all year for that shot, and none of us "have to kill" something bad enough to shoot at a nervous acting deer, hog, or whatever. You'll be sick at yourself when you see that arrow hit a leg, hind quarter, or if you're lucky, it'll miss altogether. Don't read me wrong here, I'm not saying go out and never shoot nothing! I'm just stressing that there is a lot to learn from the animals you hunt if you'll pay attention. Calm and feeding, head down, maybe even screened by an obstacle, even better! A buck mesmerized by the scent of a purty doe, that'll work too! We're all gonna miss, maybe even wound, but just don't make it be cuz of a poor decision of choosing to shoot at a deer who had a VERY good idea it was fixing to be shot at! I've always told everyone that would listen that I work harder/am more proud of striving to be a better hunter and woodsman, than I am at being a good shot! Least that's my excuse for my shooting (in)abilities! Good Huntin, and God Bless, Rusty
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Old 09-08-2017, 11:59 PM   #55
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Lots of good information on this thread already.

Fertilizing oaks works, late for this year but remember it for the future.

I find that deer going to or leaving a feeder on trails are generally less jumpy than deer at a feeder. Have had good success hunting trails with a little hand corn in them 75 to 100 yards from the feeder.

Practice lots but practice with purpose that every shot feels right or don't take the shot, figure out what was wrong and correct it on the next shot. I have let deer go before because it just didn't feel right on the shot, much rather do that than not get a clean kill with the one shot. I don't kill that many with my Bows but want every one I shoot at die quickly from a well placed shot, rather pass a shot than make a bad one.

the Mock scrape works,. when setting them up I have had good success setting them up on the other side of a bush from where I am sitting in a scrape location from last year. They get comfortable working the old scrape and more calm when walking away from it from what I have seen. Have killed deer at less than 10 yards this way that didn't duck.

Hunting creek crossings has worked well in the past also.

Like has already been said learn the yardages around your stands, mark them early if you can.

Practice from the way you will be hunting, if from a popup shoot from that popup and from same chair you use in it.

I started hunting with recurves and switched to compound in 1980. Going back to the recurve for most of my bow hunting this year.

Don't forget your grunt call, I have killed several good bucks inside 10 yards that came in looking for that deer that was grunting, with bow and rifle. It helps on calling if you are on the edge of thick stuff that the deer doing the grunting could be in.

Where I hunt Rut is rolling by the last week of bow season, caing can work very well then.

Mostly have fun with it.
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:20 PM   #56
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Good info right there.

The one thing I would add is don't get all worked up before the shot.

If you spend a little time with the "Greats " among bow hunters, you will discover that the Chunky and Bisch's of the world are really nothing special.
They may be a little prettier than your average sportsman but taken as a whole they are just regular guys who kill a lot of stuff with Trad bows.

What makes them special is that they expect to kill, every time they head to the woods, every time they draw their bow they expect to kill what they are looking at.

Dont over think it, when the time is right. just draw your bow and kill the darn thing.
Afterwards you can get as excited as you want, I always do
^^^^this is an important thing to remember.

When that shot opportunity presents itself you have to be certain, confident, almost cocky, you just know you're going to make the shot. You must believe you're going to make the shot. There is no doubt. If you have any doubt let down and go through your process again.
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Old 09-11-2017, 12:48 PM   #57
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All great points on this thread. My only thing to add would be don't take any shots for granted no matter how much of a "chip shot" they may seem to be. I have learned my lesson the hard way on that one on a nice public land ten point that was broadside at 10 yards. I thought to myself "this is too easy" and then pulled the shot and hit him back...be CONFIDENT but not OVER-CONFIDENT. Being overconfident and lackadaisical can be a good way to get humbled real quick

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Old 09-12-2017, 06:49 AM   #58
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Great advice to all except where Buff said that Bisch was good looking. My advise is to always let the Deer calm down when they come in wait for them to move around in your area.
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Old 09-13-2017, 06:15 AM   #59
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1. ASAT 3d leafy suit

2. Carbon Mask Face Paint

3. Don't move, ever...
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:58 AM   #60
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Bump for a new season!
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Old 09-19-2018, 11:06 AM   #61
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Good to revisit this, no matter your experience. There are many good tips on this thread but the one piece of advice that sticks with me the most is something Buff said in his post:

"Every time you draw your bow, expect to kill what you are looking at. Don't over think it. When the time is right just draw your bow and kill the darn thing."

Over-thinking and pre-shot anxiety amplifies the brain fog that causes bad shots. (or at least it does for me)
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:37 PM   #62
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And, in the immortal words of Elmer Fudd, "Be vewy, vewy, quiet." Double and triple check your equipment to be sure that your full draw cycle is silent. A click or a squeak while drawing can turn what's looking like venison into what's looking long gone.
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Old 09-21-2018, 04:13 PM   #63
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:53 PM   #64
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Play the wind, I use natural blinds in the shade. Keep shots close.....it's bow hunting! Sit as long as you can and then sit another 5 minutes longer! I like hand corn and pick a hair to shoot. Keep broadheads sharp and practice sitting and in your hunting clothes. Something I learned the hard way a couple of times ....Don't push a marginally shot animal, if I don't see them fall, I prefer when possible to wait 3-4 hrs before blood trailing. Most fatally hit deer won't run more than 200 yds if that, before laying down, if you kick them up, they will run till they die leaving a hard to track blood trail

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Old 10-02-2018, 01:21 PM   #65
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thanks for putting this up, really great information here, I am in my rookie season and looking forward to getting out with the stickbow this year.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:30 PM   #66
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thanks for putting this up, really great information here, I am in my rookie season and looking forward to getting out with the stickbow this year.
Good luck! And welcome to the TBH trad forum!
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Old 10-02-2018, 05:06 PM   #67
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thanks for putting this up, really great information here, I am in my rookie season and looking forward to getting out with the stickbow this year.
I hear ya. I'm headed out this weekend to the lease for the first time with my bow for deer. Last time I went out I ended up seeing a hog while carrying my daughter and fishing poles to the pond. No fishing poles this time.


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Old 10-04-2018, 07:57 AM   #68
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Good luck! And welcome to the TBH trad forum!
Thanks man!
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:04 AM   #69
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thanks for putting this up, really great information here, I am in my rookie season and looking forward to getting out with the stickbow this year.
Welcome to the Trad side. You're in for a great ride.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:54 AM   #70
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I bought a recurve last year and decided i would learn how to shoot it, i have space in my back yard to practice at any distance. So this is the beginning season of learning how to shoot it and trying to shoot a few pigs to see what i can get accomplished. I have figured out in a very short time period of just trying to learn how to shoot a recurve that it is a Humbling process to start, if you have an ego and want to keep it intact go back to a gun...expecting to be humbled this year many a times!
If i get anything i will probably shout it from the rooftops!
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:11 AM   #71
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Welcome to the fold, Loanman!!!! And your observation is spot on. There are times you will be humbled when you are 20yrs into it!!!!

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Old 10-11-2018, 08:59 AM   #72
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I bought a recurve last year and decided i would learn how to shoot it, i have space in my back yard to practice at any distance. So this is the beginning season of learning how to shoot it and trying to shoot a few pigs to see what i can get accomplished. I have figured out in a very short time period of just trying to learn how to shoot a recurve that it is a Humbling process to start, if you have an ego and want to keep it intact go back to a gun...expecting to be humbled this year many a times!

If i get anything i will probably shout it from the rooftops!


Hey man I am new this year as well...on learning to shoot if you haven't already found it check out "The Push" they have an awesome intro to trad video on YouTube that goes over a ton of information...and then they have a podcast as well...I highly recommend checking out the coaching moments with Tom Clum...he is an amazing coach that I was lucky enough to spend a couple of days with this summer helping to make sure I was starting down the right track! Soon Tom should be putting out an online course that goes over this stuff in great detail with video demonstrations as well.

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