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Old 07-16-2013, 03:39 PM   #101
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Guys--you're killing me!!!! Left a lease on Hwy 97 east of Cotulla 'bout 5-6 years ago and haven't found a point since then.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:33 PM   #102
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These two in particular I would like to know what they are if possible. The slender one has a left hand bevel on the point and a right hand bevel on the hafting area. Any idea what tribes where in Colorado county around that time?
Its hard to put an exact type on those from the pics. It appears both are broken? I can say they are both far older than any named tribes. I would venture they are early archaic. A minimum of 6,000 years old and probably older. It also appears the fatter one is upside down. It looks to me that it is a broken blade since what you are viewing as a point is ground. this would indicate that its actually the base of the blade and maybe a Lerma.
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:26 PM   #103
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I've posted this pic before but these are just a few of my favorite surface finds from Aguilares, Texas. My uncle found this this really cool rock that was turned into a snake head on the ranch, I'll have to get a pic of it but do any of y'all know what the purpose of it might be?
Not sure on the snake head, would live to see it though.


As for the points from left to right: perdiz, frio, toyah, maybe Starr or matamoros, matamoros, and frio.
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:41 PM   #104
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Its hard to put an exact type on those from the pics. It appears both are broken? I can say they are both far older than any named tribes. I would venture they are early archaic. A minimum of 6,000 years old and probably older. It also appears the fatter one is upside down. It looks to me that it is a broken blade since what you are viewing as a point is ground. this would indicate that its actually the base of the blade and maybe a Lerma.
Yep, I would agree with what Garguy said.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:10 PM   #105
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Not sure on the snake head, would live to see it though.
Its about the size of my palm and I you can make out the eyes, nose, and fangs.

Its pretty much like this
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:20 PM   #106
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Here's a few I've found on our lease in Laredo. I don't know anything about them other than there cool to find. [ATTACH]518062
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:40 PM   #107
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Its about the size of my palm and I you can make out the eyes, nose, and fangs.

Its pretty much like this
http://www.arrowheadology.com/forums...-driveway.html

Here is what they have to say about it... They would know more than me. Some are professional archs. and professors.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:43 PM   #108
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Here's a few I've found on our lease in Laredo. I don't know anything about them other than there cool to find. [ATTACH]518062
The triangles are tortugas and the other diamond shaped ones are desmukes (hard to tell from the picture but if rounded/teardrop shaped they are probably catans).
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:59 PM   #109
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Yes, I think it could be as well as a number of other Archaic knife types. Now for the overshot, Im not sure it wasn't origionally overshot and the resharpening eliminated a lot of that, The face of the blade is pretty flat. Just hard to say without a base or context.
thanks for the info guys.. i just wish it was all there to be for sure...one of my better finds bc i found it on are ranch and is was my second find at are ranch
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:02 PM   #110
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Here's a few I've found on our lease in Laredo. I don't know anything about them other than there cool to find. [ATTACH]518062
The triangles are tortugas and the other diamond shaped ones are desmukes (hard to tell from the picture but if rounded/teardrop shaped they are probably catans).
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:24 PM   #111
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What is it?
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:41 PM   #112
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An arrowhead on a quarter
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:49 PM   #113
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looks to be a reworked Marcos
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:53 PM   #114
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Do you think it could be a Refugio knife? It appears to have some parallel flaking on one site and random flaking on the other... Without seeing it in person I am just guessing the parallel was just accidental. Also don't see any real overshot flakes (which occur on a lot of large thin paleo blades).
also i found this 45min east of Midland isnt Refugio knifes more south tx area
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:14 PM   #115
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:13 PM   #116
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what would you make of this
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:15 PM   #117
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Any idea on this...Found close to lake ivie by the colorado river
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:16 PM   #118
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and its very thin
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:17 PM   #119
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A few of my dads points tell me what ya think
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:17 PM   #120
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:18 PM   #121
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A buddies finds from NM
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:20 PM   #122
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Any idea what the horned-toad looking point is
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:34 PM   #123
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Gulp
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:25 AM   #124
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Need some id help. Found this one the other day in McMullen county. Thinking maybe an earlier triangular but I honestly have no idea. What y'all think?
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:42 AM   #125
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Gulp
exactly what I was thinking.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:51 AM   #126
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ID please.
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:07 AM   #127
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ID please.
WOW! other side please~!
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:09 AM   #128
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Copper...If those are authentic, there is quite an inheritance there.....maybe a retirement. Just curious how he came to own these. I see you are in Midland so the area is right for Folsom. Were they finds or purchases. If finds, This is a World class assemblage with several points worth from 30,000 to 100,000 bucks.

It looks like labels on the glass so I hope that's record of where they were found.

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Old 07-20-2013, 08:29 AM   #129
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:27 AM   #130
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Copper...If those are authentic, there is quite an inheritance there.....maybe a retirement. Just curious how he came to own these. I see you are in Midland so the area is right for Folsom. Were they finds or purchases. If finds, This is a World class assemblage with several points worth from 30,000 to 100,000 bucks.

It looks like labels on the glass so I hope that's record of where they were found.
My dad bought these about 30yrs ago from a old man who dug a ranch in
Ozona TX..He was digging for some university and from the story i got these are some of the points he kinda kept to himself and yes they are dated with info..he got a bunch of archaic type points to just wanted to share the paleos...i can get some close ups of the points and you can tell me what you think real or fake..
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:31 AM   #131
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My dad bought these about 30yrs ago from a old man who dug a ranch in
Ozona TX..He was digging for some university and from the story i got these are some of the points he kinda kept to himself and yes they are dated with info..he got a bunch of archaic type points to just wanted to share the paleos...i can get some close ups of the points and you can tell me what you think real or fake..
Yes sir, if you could get some close ups that would be great.
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:34 AM   #132
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Ok I will it will prob be this eve we I post the pics...let me talk to my dad to and make sure I have the right story to
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Old 07-20-2013, 09:38 AM   #133
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Yep, and a good one.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:02 AM   #134
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WOW! other side please~!
I will see if I can get some pics out of the case and of the other side. My stepfather's dad spent years collecting arrowheads and has a pretty good collection. I was looking through the cases and that immediately caught my eye.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:41 PM   #135
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Ok my story is off they were found in different areas about to post some close ups
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:52 PM   #136
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Ok my story is off they were found in different areas about to post some close ups
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Beautiful collection. From the pics so far they look fake because they are all so perfect. Not saying they are but they just appear that way a first sight. Can't wait to see more pics. Those are some beautiful arrowheads.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:56 PM   #137
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they might be.. loading pics now stay tuned..alot of them still have dirt in the chiped areas not saying much
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:17 PM   #138
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Here we go close ups and some other pics tell me what ya think..some of the labels might be off they have shifted around a bit i think
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Old 07-20-2013, 01:18 PM   #139
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:20 PM   #140
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Awesome points Cooper... Without actually holding them and looking at them under magnification it would be hard to tell if they are authentic. I do see what looks like a lot of fresh hinges and some of the flutes/flaking look weird but could be the pictures. Some look 100% dead on, also!!! I would have them papered. If all real your Father is looking at 100s of thousands.
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:49 PM   #141
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Thanks for your input realthreat..your right you would have to hold them and see them in person
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:38 PM   #142
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:39 PM   #143
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Wow I dont know much except from following most of Gar Guys thread and looking at other threads that come up, but if those are real..... That is almost too incredible to understand
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:47 PM   #144
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Found near the North Llano River. Hmmm...can't upload pictures.
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:24 PM   #145
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A little help on what these might be. The brown one has blue/gray spots in it



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Old 07-22-2013, 09:13 PM   #146
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No help from me maybe garguy will check it out
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:01 PM   #147
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Wondering what these were. Most have the same basic shape. Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1374627618.858709.jpg
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Old 07-24-2013, 03:43 PM   #148
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Wondering what these were. Most have the same basic shape. Attachment 521237
Also found this in Webb county and thought it was pretty cool.
Thanks.
Tortuga is the triangle, abasolo are the teardrop and lerma are the ones that are pointed on both ends where you really can't tell the tip from the base. The diamond shaped one might be a desmuke or a modified abasolo.
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Old 07-24-2013, 04:05 PM   #149
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Surface find in Rocksprings, any idea?

Looks like they used the heck out of this point.

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Old 07-24-2013, 04:34 PM   #150
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Martindale maybe^^^
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