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Old 07-10-2013, 08:12 PM   #51
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Okay guys take a look at these two. I found these as a kid along the same creek about 100 yards apart. The one on the left is the first arrowhead I ever found. I've been staring at the ground ever since. I've never really known what they may be. These were found in Upshur county in east TX.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:13 PM   #52
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hard to tell with the stick and lashing. Its something middle Archaic.... Edit darl would fit.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:16 PM   #53
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Kickerpoint, Those are probably Yarborough. They both have a little bit of a Wilson look but I cant see grinding.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:19 PM   #54
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Kickerpoint, Those are probably Yarborough. They both have a little bit of a Wilson look but I cant see grinding.
Thank you sir. I felt like they were the same type or similar time period.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:20 PM   #55
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:22 PM   #56
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:25 PM   #57
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Here are some I have IDed and will post for your reference... If anybody sees an error let me know.

From top group to bottom: top tortuga/matamoros, middle desmuke, and bottom is abasolo.



from top to bottom: perdenales, langtry, scallorn, toyah, perdiz, Williams, frio




Top golondrina, middle Plainview drill and bottom angostura

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Old 07-10-2013, 08:27 PM   #58
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Great stuff snapper.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:14 PM   #59
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Great stuff Reel. A couple of those birdies might be Perdiz too. Also after looking at the close ups I concede the Typical south Texas stuff. I sure was wanting to see a clear flute and microflaking on that small one with the broke ear. Looks like there is a nice Early triangular in there though.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:02 PM   #60
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Great stuff Reel. A couple of those birdies might be Perdiz too. Also after looking at the close ups I concede the Typical south Texas stuff. I sure was wanting to see a clear flute and microflaking on that small one with the broke ear. Looks like there is a nice Early triangular in there though.
Thanks, I have been following your thread and it is absolutely amazing. It has gave me some good ideas on how to excavate my property (where the trans paleo stuff came from).

You never know what someone might stumble upon... A guy at work found this barber (at least I think it is) and they are one of the rarest points in Texas. He only has about 20-30 points total. It is ground down both side about an inch.

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Old 07-11-2013, 07:54 AM   #61
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Yep, A guy on this site went out and found a mini Clovis made of crystal a few weeks ago. It was his second or third point ever.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:16 AM   #62
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Some very nice finds guys, thanks for sharing I have some more I will try and post tonight, even have one I bought at trades day (before I knew better) that is suppose to be authentic but ill let ya'll be the judge.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:25 AM   #63
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very nice finds..
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:39 AM   #64
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Anybody know what this was or how old it might be. Only kind of artifact I've ever found.

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Old 07-11-2013, 09:19 AM   #65
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Anybody know what this was or how old it might be. Only kind of artifact I've ever found.

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Really can't put an id on that piece. That is one beat to hell arrowhead. I have found many of them and keep them too. I'm guessing a surface find?
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:31 AM   #66
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Really can't put an id on that piece. That is one beat to hell arrowhead. I have found many of them and keep them too. I'm guessing a surface find?
Yeah, after a heavy rain in a washout going into a tank. Figured it was pretty busted up, but thought it was neat to actually find something.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:03 PM   #67
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would this be paleo

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Old 07-13-2013, 01:22 PM   #68
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:26 PM   #69
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cool looking point
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:08 PM   #70
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:24 PM   #71
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Any IDs would be appreciated.
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:25 AM   #72
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awesome finds guys i will try to post some recent finds soon,my dad has been pounding the creeks and has found 2 clovis and several other plainviews pics soon.
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:46 PM   #73
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:46 PM   #74
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Salty Mule....the broke black one has a montell look to it the other black one looks to be a langetry to me
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:15 PM   #75
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:24 PM   #76
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Garguy, Johnny, Reelthreat.....whats your thoughts on post#67
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:28 PM   #77
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I spent the last few days with the family on the frio. I got away for a couple hours to dig and found this. I believe it's a angostura. Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1373840909.693996.jpg
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Old 07-14-2013, 05:38 PM   #78
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i would say your right
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:14 PM   #79
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:23 PM   #80
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I also dug under a cliff overhang above river and was getting lots if charcoal, shells, flakes and big bones. Can anyone identify? Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1373847580.643445.jpg
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:27 PM   #81
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no help on the bones...but thats cool
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:19 AM   #82
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Looks to be bison,the bone was split and the marrow extracted cool finds.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:29 AM   #83
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Probably a Refugio knife which is about 3000-4000 year old
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:36 AM   #84
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Great thread, I will post some up soon.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:40 AM   #85
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Maybe a Nolan.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:32 AM   #86
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Armadillophil, next time you dig that overhang bag up some charcoal. That can be carbon dated to see how old everything is. Now that I think about it, the bone material may be able to be dated also. It's very cool to see the bone. Not something you see every day.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:29 PM   #87
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Garguy, Johnny, Reelthreat.....whats your thoughts on post#67
If I found it, I would be thinking paleo. Sure hard to tell without a base.It could be a middle archaic knife but the flaking style looks older.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:22 PM   #88
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If I found it, I would be thinking paleo. Sure hard to tell without a base.It could be a middle archaic knife but the flaking style looks older.
I have been leaning on paleo since i found it.. its so well made and the flaking is awesome..but like you said its herd to tell without the base thanks for the input
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:26 PM   #89
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Great thread, I will post some up soon.
Tell Chris to post on here
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:56 PM   #90
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I assume this is a trade pipe, but can the pattern be identified as to how old and its origin? Found it while shooting carp on some shallow flats back in May. Tried to find the other half of the bowl but couldn't. Lots of nice points in the area as well, but doubtful from the same period.

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Old 07-16-2013, 08:22 AM   #91
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I got a few more I would like to have identified
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:30 AM   #92
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Most of these were found in colorado county around Garwood
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:12 AM   #93
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Awesome thread. This will be useful!
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:42 AM   #94
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If I found it, I would be thinking paleo. Sure hard to tell without a base.It could be a middle archaic knife but the flaking style looks older.
Do you think it could be a Refugio knife? It appears to have some parallel flaking on one site and random flaking on the other... Without seeing it in person I am just guessing the parallel was just accidental. Also don't see any real overshot flakes (which occur on a lot of large thin paleo blades).
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Do you think it could be a Refugio knife? It appears to have some parallel flaking on one site and random flaking on the other... Without seeing it in person I am just guessing the parallel was just accidental. Also don't see any real overshot flakes (which occur on a lot of large thin paleo blades).
Yes, I think it could be as well as a number of other Archaic knife types. Now for the overshot, Im not sure it wasn't origionally overshot and the resharpening eliminated a lot of that, The face of the blade is pretty flat. Just hard to say without a base or context.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:32 PM   #96
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Most of these were found in colorado county around Garwood
These are mine, just need clarification on what they are.
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:04 PM   #97
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These are mine, just need clarification on what they are.
The pink birdie looks like an Edwards and the white is a scallorn. There is also a perdenales (u shaped back), a bunch of tools/scrapers, some tortugas (triangles) and what looks like some Darls (narrower side notched points). Also, some that can't be identified, not enough there.

If you have one in particular you would like identified, post it seperate or point out which one and will try to ID.

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Old 07-16-2013, 03:01 PM   #98
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Trying to determine these
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:10 PM   #99
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Trying to determine these
These two in particular I would like to know what they are if possible. The slender one has a left hand bevel on the point and a right hand bevel on the hafting area. Any idea what tribes where in Colorado county around that time?

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Old 07-16-2013, 03:18 PM   #100
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I've posted this pic before but these are just a few of my favorite surface finds from Aguilares, Texas. My uncle found this this really cool rock that was turned into a snake head on the ranch, I'll have to get a pic of it but do any of y'all know what the purpose of it might be?
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