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Old 10-07-2018, 07:24 AM   #1
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Old 10-07-2018, 07:44 AM   #2
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They are worth the money.
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:25 AM   #3
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I've been looking at them.

How much to rebarrel a rifle with a proof barrel?
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Old 10-07-2018, 09:00 AM   #4
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Just finished chambering my first proof barrel yesterday. I've shot a few of them and they're nice barrels. They don't shoot any better than any other quality custom barrel, just lighter than the others in their respective contours. Are they worth the money? All in the eye of the beholder. Carbon barrels run about $750-850 then another $350 +/- for chambering. Their standard stainless barrels run about the same as everyone else's. Only difference is I made a Delrin lined aluminum sleeve for the outboard spider as I didn't want my jacking bolts to touch the barrel.
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Just finished chambering my first proof barrel yesterday. I've shot a few of them and they're nice barrels. They don't shoot any better than any other quality custom barrel, just lighter than the others in their respective contours. Are they worth the money? All in the eye of the beholder. Carbon barrels run about $750-850 then another $350 +/- for chambering. Their standard stainless barrels run about the same as everyone else's. Only difference is I made a Delrin lined aluminum sleeve for the outboard spider as I didn't want my jacking bolts to touch the barrel.
Yep, that's how much mine cost. With reloads, mine will shoot under 1/2" groups @100 yards off of bags. The largest group I shot during load development was 1.1", and most groups were under 3/4".

Would I buy one again? Maybe. It sure was expensive when you consider that you can buy two bartleins for less. But if it's between a bull barrel all steel vs a CF barrel, I'd take the proof.
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:56 PM   #6
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I built one in a 300wm. Is it cool-Yes. Is it a shooter-Yes. Does it out shoot my other customs-No. Will I build another using a Proof.....probably not, I’ll save money on the barrel and spend it on upgrades.

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Old 10-07-2018, 07:04 PM   #7
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Just depends on what you're trying to accomplish with your build. If you' gonna hunt out of a blind all the time not really that big of a deal. If weight reduction is important than absolutely. They are good barrels just very expensive.
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Old 10-07-2018, 07:40 PM   #8
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I think it’s worth it. My 7 mag shoots well under 1/4”. I didn’t have tine to do the load work myself and the guy that did it offered to buy the rifle. He has done a bunch of load work on proofs. Said it was the best one he’s seen but all shot very well. It makes a difference in balance and weight. Downside is they do NOT like a suppressor hanging off the end. Changes POI a lot.
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Downside is they do NOT like a suppressor hanging off the end. Changes POI a lot.
Interesting, I wouldn't have expected that. I havent run mine suppressed yet, but now I'll have to try it out.
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Downside is they do NOT like a suppressor hanging off the end. Changes POI a lot.
Makes sense as barrel harmonics on a lightweight barrel are changed with extra weight hanging off the front
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Makes sense as barrel harmonics on a lightweight barrel are changed with extra weight hanging off the front
Yeah I wasnít sure what to expect. Itís repeatable though!!
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Old 10-07-2018, 10:32 PM   #12
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Had a 7SAUM built with a Proof barrel. 26", Defiance action, it's incredible. .25 MOA rifle. Initially, I was skeptical about the barrel, but I had won a 30% off certificate at a match and decided to take a chance after discussing it at length with my rifle builder. He's a tough critic, but said he was using a Proof barrel on his next personal build.

I haven't been this happy with a new rifle in a very long while.
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Old 10-07-2018, 10:45 PM   #13
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I think itís worth it. My 7 mag shoots well under 1/4Ē. I didnít have tine to do the load work myself and the guy that did it offered to buy the rifle. He has done a bunch of load work on proofs. Said it was the best one heís seen but all shot very well. It makes a difference in balance and weight. Downside is they do NOT like a suppressor hanging off the end. Changes POI a lot.


Hmmmmmm. They are supposed to be just as stiff as any barrel of the same contour. What can?


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Hmmmmmm. They are supposed to be just as stiff as any barrel of the same contour. What can?


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Old 10-08-2018, 04:23 PM   #15
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My proof barrels shoot lights out but also have a significant poi shift with/without a suppressor (direct thread) - 6 moa at 100 yards to be exact.

I shoot suppressed 100% of the time so it's not an issue for me.
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:25 PM   #16
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For those that shoot the Proofs can you give us an idea on how much your barrel itself weighs? I'm putting together a build sheet and have no idea how much a 26" .30 caliber barrel would weigh.

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Downside is they do NOT like a suppressor hanging off the end. Changes POI a lot.
I'm running a Thunderbeast Suppressor on a 6.5 CM Proof Research barrel I used in an AR10 build. I have had no issues with POI shift. I have not shot it both suppressed and unsuppressed out past 100 though. I can't imagine the 2.2 oz weight difference in our suppressors would make that much difference. Maybe I just got lucky.

Maybe it is the difference in barrel lengths. I'm only running on 22" barrel on a gas gun, and I imagine everyone is running a 26" barrel on a bolt gun.
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I'm running a Thunderbeast Suppressor on a 6.5 CM Proof Research barrel I used in an AR10 build. I have had no issues with POI shift. I have not shot it both suppressed and unsuppressed out past 100 though. I can't imagine the 2.2 oz weight difference in our suppressors would make that much difference. Maybe I just got lucky.

Maybe it is the difference in barrel lengths. I'm only running on 22" barrel on a gas gun, and I imagine everyone is running a 26" barrel on a bolt gun.
Yours is likely a heavier barrel too. Iím running a 26Ē sendero lite. I didnít build it to shoot suppresses. I have no doubt their heavier barrels wouldnít be affected by it as much.
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That makes perfect sense. Iím happy with mine. Shoots great and makes a longer barrel AR10 weigh so much less than the JP barrel that I used on a different build.


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For those that shoot the Proofs can you give us an idea on how much your barrel itself weighs? I'm putting together a build sheet and have no idea how much a 26" .30 caliber barrel would weigh.
They offer 3 different contours. They have the weights listed on each at each length they offer.
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That makes perfect sense. Iím happy with mine. Shoots great and makes a longer barrel AR10 weigh so much less than the JP barrel that I used on a different build.


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Yeah I would like one on my AR10 build. I just need the barrel and gas assembly and bcg to finish it.
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They offer 3 different contours. They have the weights listed on each at each length they offer.
I figured they listed weights. I cant access the site due to firewall where I work so I just thought I would ask.
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308 26 9 2.5 1.20 Sendero 3lbs-3oz 107959 $830
308 26 9.4 2.5 1.20 Sendero 3lbs-3oz 107935 $830
308 26 10 2.5 1.20 Sendero Light 2lbs-15oz 101032 $830
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For those that shoot the Proofs can you give us an idea on how much your barrel itself weighs? I'm putting together a build sheet and have no idea how much a 26" .30 caliber barrel would weigh.

PROOF Sendero contour will weigh 3 lbs. 5 ozs. ; priced around $750

a S.S. Sendero barrel will weigh 4 lbs. 12 ozs. ; priced around $350

roughly 1.5 lbs. difference in weight

most Sendero type rifles weigh 9.5 lbs , bare rifle

figure same build with a PROOF will be 8 lbs.
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These are lined up in order. Just couldnít get it to fit in one shot. Only big changes will be your muzzle threads and tenon length. Some guys leave a long tenon to have plenty of room to set the barrel back.

My rifle is as follows

Defiance deviant hunter action (integral 20moa rail and recoil lug)
26Ē proof sendero lite 1:8 with wto brake
7mm rem mag
McMillan HTG
Seekins SRS rail for atlas bipod. Rear sling stud
Jewel HVR
PTG oberndorf bottom metal
Hawkins precision rings with built in level
Leupold Mark 6 3-18x44 M5C2 turrets

That package complete is 8.10 lbs.

I changed the bottom metal out to a detachable mag HS precision set up. I have not checked the weight since doing that. Itís plenty light for a true long range hunting rig. And it hammers. In the right hands itíll put 5 shots in the .1-.15Ē range consistently. 180 grain Berger hunting VLDs at 3075 FPS with a stout charge of retumbo in Norma brass. It has a bore rider throat. That helped with velocity too. I wonít post the powder charge itís way over max. Sadly I donít shoot enough anymore to make that type of group every time. Iíd recommend another proof in a heartbeat. I canít say they shoot better than lilja, Bartlien or krieger. But they donít shoot worse either. They are double the price. Youíll save a bit on ceracoat.



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I built one in a 300wm. Is it cool-Yes. Is it a shooter-Yes. Does it out shoot my other customs-No. Will I build another using a Proof.....probably not, Iíll save money on the barrel and spend it on upgrades.

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Any pics and details? Thatís what Iím looking to build
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:55 AM   #27
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I have 2 and 1 of them with factory ammo easily shoots 1/2 moa, the other literally shot a 0.046" group the other day and is the most accurate gun I own.

The accuracy potential of these barrels will not hold you back from a steel barrel IMO
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:06 PM   #28
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Proof Sendero Lite 26Ē w/Snowy Mtn Rifles Brake
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B&C factory stock off Rem Long Range...Sendero Lite contour fit in it perfectly w/o any alterations
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:02 AM   #29
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Just finished this one and got the barrel broken in. Shooting Federal Premium Sierra Match Kings BTHP 168gr. That's a 5 shot group at 100yds not supressed. Bottom two were the last two I fired in the 5 shot group, I think I was a little excited at that point.

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