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Old 10-06-2018, 03:42 PM   #651
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We disked our two fields last week and will be planting tomorrow since we have some good chances of rain coming up. We will broadcast 150lbs of fertilizer per acre (16-20-0) and will seed the following:
75lbs of TAMO 411 oats per acre
75lbs of TAM 114 wheat per acre
3lbs of Silver River Clover per acre (they gave me a bag of Micronoc Seed Inoculant to inoculate the clover seed)

We ended up buying our seed at Justin Seed again because I called Turner Seed to pick everything up and they were all out of oats and wheat. I thought that was very strange that they were completely out. I understand that most people plant in September, but you would think they would continue to have seed through mid October.

We will be planting right around 5 acres total tomorrow. Since we have already disked and drug the fields once we will do the following:
1. Broadcast the fertilizer on top of fields
2. Broadcast Oats & Wheat on top of fields
3. Disk the fertilizer, oats and wheat into soil around 1in deep
4. Hand broadcast silver river clover
5. Use the UTV cultipacker to firm the seedbed and get rid of any air pockets

Here are two pictures of the fields we prepped last weekend.
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Here are some pictures of bucks that show what they've grown into over the past couple of years:
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We are passing on this buck again this year hoping he can get a year or two older.

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This 10pt is probably 6.5yrs and didn't make the jump we thought so we are going to pass him one more year and see what happens.

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This is a cool 5 1/2yr old 8pt that made quite a jump from last year.

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This is a 4 1/2yr old 8pt that we will let walk another couple of years.

These are the two cull bucks we are really after this year:
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Our plan is to shoot another 10 does this year and a couple of these cull bucks this year. We are really hoping our neighbors will start shooting some does because we have seen our deer numbers continue to grow even though we shoot above and beyond the numbers we are supposed to shoot.
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Old 10-06-2018, 09:00 PM   #652
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We disked our two fields last week and will be planting tomorrow since we have some good chances of rain coming up. We will broadcast 150lbs of fertilizer per acre (16-20-0) and will seed the following:
75lbs of TAMO 411 oats per acre
75lbs of TAM 114 wheat per acre
3lbs of Silver River Clover per acre (they gave me a bag of Micronoc Seed Inoculant to inoculate the clover seed)

We ended up buying our seed at Justin Seed again because I called Turner Seed to pick everything up and they were all out of oats and wheat. I thought that was very strange that they were completely out. I understand that most people plant in September, but you would think they would continue to have seed through mid October.

We will be planting right around 5 acres total tomorrow. Since we have already disked and drug the fields once we will do the following:
1. Broadcast the fertilizer on top of fields
2. Broadcast Oats & Wheat on top of fields
3. Disk the fertilizer, oats and wheat into soil around 1in deep
4. Hand broadcast silver river clover
5. Use the UTV cultipacker to firm the seedbed and get rid of any air pockets

Here are two pictures of the fields we prepped last weekend.
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Here are some pictures of bucks that show what they've grown into over the past couple of years:
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We are passing on this buck again this year hoping he can get a year or two older.

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This 10pt is probably 6.5yrs and didn't make the jump we thought so we are going to pass him one more year and see what happens.

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This is a cool 5 1/2yr old 8pt that made quite a jump from last year.

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This is a 4 1/2yr old 8pt that we will let walk another couple of years.

These are the two cull bucks we are really after this year:
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Our plan is to shoot another 10 does this year and a couple of these cull bucks this year. We are really hoping our neighbors will start shooting some does because we have seen our deer numbers continue to grow even though we shoot above and beyond the numbers we are supposed to shoot.
Awesome stuff.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:12 AM   #653
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We broadcasted the fertilizer, wheat and oats last night and ran out of time. We were going to disk it into the soil and then cultipack it but we got 2” of rain last night. I’m hoping the rain pounded the seed into the soil and covered it up. It’s way too wet to go out and do anything (i.e. cultipack, disk) at this point and I think we’d be doing more harm than good. My dad is going to go look at the fields and see if we have any seed sitting on top of the dirt but my bet is that hard 2” of rain should have covered the seed fairly good. I really wish we could have at least cultipacked the fields last night but we just didn’t have the time. Next time I’ll be farming at night time if I have to. Oh well...finger crossed that we will be okay.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:17 AM   #654
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I’m glad y’all got a good rain last night. I bet you’ll be happy with the results.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:25 AM   #655
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I’m hoping so. My dad is out there now and said it’s still raining and we have a 100% chance of rain tomorrow and no temps in the 90’s. Fingers crossed it all works out.
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:59 AM   #656
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Here are two pictures of the fields after the 2" of rain:
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There is still some seed on top but I'm sure some of it still got covered. We planted at a high seeding rate.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:10 PM   #657
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HEre is a picture of the San Saba river after we received 2.1in over night and north of us got just over 4in.
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We got the cultipacker put together yesterday but weren't able to use it.
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We weren't able to broadcast the silver river clover out so I'll find a new area for the clover and use the new cultipacker when we are out there on 10/19. Just want to try this thing out and see how it works.
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Old 10-09-2018, 09:10 AM   #658
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Looks like you are getting more rain now!
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Old 10-09-2018, 09:54 AM   #659
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It looks like we will get another 2in or so today so around 4in total in two days...Lots of rain! Hopefully the seed is still in place and will do well.

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Old 10-22-2018, 09:36 AM   #660
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We were at the ranch this past weekend to do some bow hunting and some work around the property. The ranch was obviously very wet. We have received nearly 10.5" since planting our fields on 10/7/18. Here are a couple of pictures of the food plots:
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The deer aren't hammering them now just because of how many forbs are available right now due to all of the rain. We hope to see deer in these fields come gun season once a lot of the other forage goes away.
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:38 AM   #661
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Looks good!
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:50 AM   #662
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I’m not sure how to tell the difference between wheat and oats. there’s still a lot that is just starting to sprout. Hopefully it will fill in nicely.
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Old 10-22-2018, 12:27 PM   #663
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The fields are looking excellent!
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:01 PM   #664
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Thanks! It’s amazing how easy it is when you get a lot of rain.
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Old 10-22-2018, 07:23 PM   #665
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Great looking plots.
I think wheat looks a little thicker and darker when young.
Did you put out any test cages? Your fields look much bigger and maybe won’t get hammered by our deer that spend hours in them every day.
Just FYI we poisoned, broadcast seed, fertilized, shredded and culti-packed. Best plots we ever had thanks to that unending rain.

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Old 10-23-2018, 09:53 AM   #666
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great looking plots. Mine don't look as good for just broadcasting. It was too wet to get the drill in there.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:52 PM   #667
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We got another 1in of rain today. I’m just hoping to see the deer utilize them when it gets colder and there’s less native forage to eat. They haven’t had the need to use the food plots that much due to all of the native forbs and fresh browse.
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Old 10-25-2018, 07:57 AM   #668
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We got another 1in of rain today. I’m just hoping to see the deer utilize them when it gets colder and there’s less native forage to eat. They haven’t had the need to use the food plots that much due to all of the native forbs and fresh browse.
They will. Be glad the are leaving it alone now, as it is giving it time to get established.

As suggested, I would install an exclusion cage to see exactly how much they are eating. Might surprise you.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:57 AM   #669
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We installed an exclusion cage in each field last weekend to get a better idea of how much is being browsed. I see that they are forecasting 80 degree days for Saturday thru Tuesday. Those warm temps should help those fields flourish. Someone will be out there next week and I’ll post more pictures.

We broadcasted some leftover wheat, turnips and silver river clover on a 2 acre field that had a lot of standing water in it. It got another good 1in of rain since broadcasting the seed. I’m curious to see how that seed does in a field that hasn’t been disked since last October.

Should we consider fertilizing the fields in January with a high Nitrogen fertilizer? Just curious about what y’all think. I know both wheat and oats require lots of Nitrogen and I’d like to keep the attractiveness and protein levels as high as possible.

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I don’t know the right fertilizer for you, but my oats and wheat grow thru the winter and I have top dressed them. Luckily, none goes to grass or weeds. Cameras on your fields after some hard freezes will reassure you why you worked so hard.
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:23 PM   #671
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My dad was at the ranch today and took some pictures of the wheat/oat food plots. He said there were about 15 deer in the 3 acre field and a number of deer in the 1 acre strip. You can tell that it's a little spotty and bunched up due to us not cultipacking it and the seed moving into the furrows after we got a 2.5-inch downpour the night after planting. It's not the prettiest field but the deer don't seem to mind that and I'm sure its producing enough to attract and provide nutrition. You can see how much they are eating with the exclosure cages. The ponds are still overflowing from the wet fall.
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Old 11-15-2018, 03:03 PM   #672
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I wish everyone would put up enclosures. It definitely helps show usage
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Old 11-15-2018, 04:50 PM   #673
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I wish we could make our plots look like those on tv (like a thick green carpet) but I think that’s pretty unrealistic for our neck of the woods. I’m curious to know how much tonnage per acre we are growing. Is there anyway to know how much forage is growing per acre?
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We were all out there over Thanksgiving week/weekend. The hunting was okay but would have been a lot better if that cold front would have come in earlier and if we didn't have a full moon. We saw some chasing but nothing too crazy. The first evening we got there the big 12pt came to the house protein feeder right at last light but I couldn't get a shot off. The deer weren't in the food plots too much, at least during the day time, but I'm sure they were hammering in that full moon. The plots still look really good but we could use some rain over the next couple of weeks. We shot two does, which puts us at 4 for the year, and plan on shooting another 3 to 4 does over the next two weekends.

The most action we saw was sitting in tripods that overlooked areas that were away from feeders.

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Old 11-28-2018, 12:01 PM   #675
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This is a picture of the best yearling buck we have ever seen.

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Here are two pictures of the 12pt
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:35 PM   #677
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This is a picture of the best yearling buck we have ever seen.



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Here are two pictures of the 12pt


Great looking deer
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:24 PM   #678
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Awesome looking buck! How’s the “Hammer” system working for you? Just curious if you have any different thoughts since your original review
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:58 PM   #679
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I love the Hammer system. It's helped control the amount of feed and when to feed during deer season. It has helped us save a little $ on feed. I like knowing that the deer cannot go eat protein anytime they want during the hunting season and if they want some they have to go during daylight hours. Before, we had a protein feeder without a timer and we would get so many night time pictures throughout the season. Our night time pictures have gone way down and we are actually seeing mature bucks during the daylight hours, at least on our cameras.
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Old 11-28-2018, 04:00 PM   #680
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that 12pt is a great buck. I hope you get him.
What river is that - beautiful.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:32 PM   #681
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Thanks! That’s the San saba river, which is the southern border of our place. I wish the water was always this high.
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:11 PM   #682
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I love the Hammer system. It's helped control the amount of feed and when to feed during deer season. It has helped us save a little $ on feed. I like knowing that the deer cannot go eat protein anytime they want during the hunting season and if they want some they have to go during daylight hours. Before, we had a protein feeder without a timer and we would get so many night time pictures throughout the season. Our night time pictures have gone way down and we are actually seeing mature bucks during the daylight hours, at least on our cameras.
Thanks for the review! I appreciate it!
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Old 11-29-2018, 02:15 PM   #683
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pLOTS looked a lot better in the first pics when they came up. Least they are eating them. My 3 plots are so tall


That 12 is HUGE and easily over 150. Do you have him at 4.5 or 5.5?
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Old 11-29-2018, 02:48 PM   #684
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The plots are definitely not as thick and tall as i thought they would be but I think that's probably due to the grazing and the lack of rainfall since mid October. I can't tell if we should have increased the amount of seed we broadcasted per acre to help prevent the gaps but I think we seeded fairly heavily from what I've read (150lbs/acre total - 75lbs wheat/acre & 75lbs oats/acre). Any tips on improving our food plots are always much appreciated as we are amateurs. How tall are your plots now?

We have the 12pt at 5.5yrs and came to the conclusion that we will make the final decision once we see him in person. He's definitely a pretty buck and hope that he is doing his part during the rut.
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Old 11-29-2018, 03:14 PM   #685
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I love the Hammer system. It's helped control the amount of feed and when to feed during deer season. It has helped us save a little $ on feed. I like knowing that the deer cannot go eat protein anytime they want during the hunting season and if they want some they have to go during daylight hours. Before, we had a protein feeder without a timer and we would get so many night time pictures throughout the season. Our night time pictures have gone way down and we are actually seeing mature bucks during the daylight hours, at least on our cameras.
This has been my same experience with the "Hammer" Timed Feeding System. I run one on my Protein Feeder, and also one on my Rice Bran Pellet Feeder. See alot more Mature Bucks during Shooting light hours.
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Old 12-04-2018, 01:27 PM   #686
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Looks like a lot of rain is forecasted for Thursday thru Friday evening. We will be going out there and hunting from Thursday thru Sunday. I was curious if we should go ahead and broadcast another 100lbs of fertilizer per acre since we know there is rain heading our way this weekend. I know that oats and wheat require a lot of nitrogen and they recommend top dressing the plots in late December/early January but since they are estimating 1.5 to 2in this weekend I thought it might be a good idea to throw some on Wednesday afternoon. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks!
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Old 12-04-2018, 01:35 PM   #687
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It may not be a bad time to do so, just remember, small grains don’t grow much in the winter. Short day lengths and cool soil temps prevent a lot of growth. Come February/March it’ll be growing like crazy.
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Old 12-11-2018, 07:48 AM   #688
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Havent looked at this thread since you started it. Kinda shows what happens when bucks are allowed to mature.
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:20 AM   #689
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Man, What an awesome thread!! Congrats on your journey and what you've accomplished so far.
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Old 12-11-2018, 09:37 AM   #690
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It was a very wet and sloppy weekend out there...we got a little over 2-inches of rain. The deer weren't moving very well until Saturday evening after the rain was over but we were still able to shoot two does and a cull buck. My dad saw the big 12pt at the house feeder on Saturday evening so I sat in a tripod over looking our south field, which is around 300 yards away from the house. I saw a big bodied buck at 50 yards away real early but couldn't tell what it was. After there was enough light I saw that it was the big 12pt but he was already at 300 yards away and chasing a doe. I tried everything to get him to come back out but he wasn't leaving that doe. There's always next time. I also saw the 4.5yr old typical 12pt and he is an absolute stud. We are hoping he can make it another two years. The two does dressed out at 83lbs & 82lbs. Here are some pictures from the weekend:

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Cull Buck (dressed out at 137lbs):
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Old 01-02-2019, 04:00 PM   #691
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We were able to shoot another doe and cull buck over the weekend which puts us at 6 doe and 2 cull bucks for the year. Unfortunately we haven't seen the big 12 in quite some time but I don't think he has been shot by anyone so fingers crossed. We put out 1,000lbs of cottonseed and filled all of the protein feeders. The oat/wheat plots are getting hammered right now. We had nearly 20 deer in our 3 acre field two evenings in a row. Here are some pictures of the fields:
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As you can see the fields aren't very tall due to the browsing pressure but there is still a lot of forage.

I'm hoping our neighbors were able to really hammer the doe this year to help us reduce the population.
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Old 01-02-2019, 04:07 PM   #692
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Here is a picture of the 7pt cull buck we shot yesterday. We thought he was a 3.5 or 4.5yr old buck but after looking at his worn down teeth and callused knees we are thinking he was a lot older than we thought. Either way, we have a lot better bucks for his age class and decided it was time to let him hit the dirt.

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Old 01-02-2019, 04:33 PM   #693
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Looking good!
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:42 PM   #694
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Old 01-02-2019, 09:07 PM   #695
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Always enjoy watching your place come along! Thanks for Sharing!
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Old 01-25-2019, 12:18 PM   #696
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We got our 3.5 acre plot fenced in a couple of weeks ago to keep the cows off of it to give the deer a chance at some decent forage from January to Spring green-up. We added six fawn gaps throughout the fence to make it easy for smaller deer to just walk right in. We are also planning on planting some Summer food plots to help improve add organic matter to the soil and provide some food for the deer. Our plan is to plant a mixture of Lablab, sunflowers, WGF sorghum and Sunn Hemp so we will see how that does. If any of you have any experience on summer food plots, please let us know. We would like to have something that will help improve the soils and provide food for deer and dove.

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Old 01-27-2019, 08:49 AM   #697
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Your program is really showing some great results. That 137 lb cull buck is impressive weight.

On your summer plots, I would close the fawn gaps.
My does have fawns inside the plots and coyotes and hogs can’t bother them.
The tiny fawns can slip thru the fence. I put a water trough in one of my plots also. I ran one strand of barbed wire along the top to discourage cows from leaning in on the fences

I don’t suggest too much milo. I did it too thick one year and couldn’t even mow it!
FWIW. I planted a few oak trees in my plots where the hogs can’t eat the acorns.
Lots of sun and fertile soil. They are growing like weeds. But you have to fence and cage them thoroughly.
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Old 01-27-2019, 01:24 PM   #698
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Thanks for your thoughts. We used goat fencing and no barbed wire so if we closed the fawn gaps how could the fawns get through? We decided to not add a top strand of wire bc we’ve seen so many deer get caught between that top wire and the goat fence. We’ll see if we’ll have to add it later on. Thanks for the advice on the milk. I spoke with Turner seed and they recommended that we use both the Spring deer mix and the Spring bird mix, which is probably what we’ll go with. Has anyone tried these mixtures with good results?
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Old 01-27-2019, 03:17 PM   #699
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Thanks for your thoughts. We used goat fencing and no barbed wire so if we closed the fawn gaps how could the fawns get through? We decided to not add a top strand of wire bc we’ve seen so many deer get caught between that top wire and the goat fence. We’ll see if we’ll have to add it later on. Thanks for the advice on the milk. I spoke with Turner seed and they recommended that we use both the Spring deer mix and the Spring bird mix, which is probably what we’ll go with. Has anyone tried these mixtures with good results?
We have had success with both those mixes. We are planting both again this year.
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Thats a beautiful property with some very nice deer yall are growing.
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