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Old 11-20-2019, 08:25 AM   #151
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Yeah...vindman & schit pretty much put the whole puzzle together yesterday regarding the whistle blower.

The repubs are indeed killing it. Huge fail for the dems & is going to bite them hard. I hope they keep digging this hole they cannot get out of.
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:46 AM   #152
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Sondland seems like a real jokester and idiot....

How did this guy get this job?
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:28 AM   #153
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Look no further than John McCain coming out at the last minute with the thumbs down to keep Obama care alive even though he campaigned against it for years. Why you ask, to get back at trump for him saying he wasnít a hero.
McCain sold out the American people over his personal issues with Trump. In my opinion that is as petty and small minded as you can get and speaks volumes about his character and his ego. No one is defined by a single action but McCain had a long list of things that you can point to in order to see all you need to know.

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Old 11-20-2019, 11:42 AM   #154
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I think that Sondland is just telling what happened. He is a goofball. I don't think that anybody with a brain thinks that the Ukraine aid was not conditioned on them doing an investigation. I think the question is whether or not this was done strictly for political purposes or if it was in the best interest of the US. And if it was done for political purposes, is that impeachable?

Sounds like Sondland was doing what he was told and is trying to CYA. I don't really blame him. At least it's not Hilary or he would have already been suicided lol
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:54 AM   #155
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McCain sold out the American people over his personal issues with Trump. In my opinion that is as petty and small minded as you can get and speaks volumes about his character and his ego. No one is defined by a single action but McCain had a long list of things that you can point to in order to see all you need to know.

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Nothing I disagree here, except I believe McCains vote was cast for many. All republicans ran on repealing Obama Care and when they actually had the opportunity to numerous of them did not actually want to. It was just a campaign speech. McCain was retiring and had nothing to loose by voting against repeal allowing other Rinoís to vote for and save face in the eyes of their voters.
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Nothing I disagree here, except I believe McCains vote was cast for many. All republicans ran on repealing Obama Care and when they actually had the opportunity to numerous of them did not actually want to. It was just a campaign speech. McCain was retiring and had nothing to loose by voting against repeal allowing other Rinoís to vote for and save face in the eyes of their voters.
I respectfully disagree with your assessment.

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The Texas reps on the committee: Ratcliffe, Conaway, and Hurd have done a good job with their questioning of the witnesses so far. They seem to be well-prepared and fully engaged.
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Old 11-20-2019, 02:35 PM   #158
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Plot twist. The "Whistleblower" is Trump and he got this kicked off to make them look like fools.

A transcript of the whistleblowing phone call was just released.

Schiffty: "Hello"

WB: "Yes, is this Congressman Adam Schiff?" (snickering in backgroud)

Schiffty: "yes it is"

WB: "I have some very very bad information on the President, I mean it's real bad. I thought it was bad before, but this is really...really bad stuff" (more snickering)

Schiffty: "What is it?! Do you have actual nudes of him this time?! I'll take whatever it is!"

WB: "No. No nudes. But I hear if there were nudes they would be the best. I've seen good nudes before, but these would be absolutely outstanding. Just some of the greatest, well maybe the greatest ever. IDK, but some people would say that."

Schiffty: "Okay, then what do you have?"

WB: "I was on a phone call (suppressed laughter), with the President, who by the way I hear is just great, I mean this guy is just phenomenal isn't he? Anyways, I was on a phone call with the President and the President of Ukraine, and there was some very, very bad stuff going on. I mean just really really bad."

Schiffty: "what did you hear?"

WB: "He threatened to withold tons and tons of money if they didn't investigate sleepy unc.... I mean, Joe Biden, who by the way I hear is just the worst. They say he's the bad of the bad. I don't know who says it, but they say it. Anyways, he told Ukraine they wouldn't get the money unless they looked into this guy"

Schiffty: "my God! We have got him this time!"

WB: "That's all I've got. Actually I have know a lot more! Some even say i'm brilliant, idk about that, but MAYBE! Anyways (suppressed laughter), do with that what you will. I don't know that you can take him on, but you can try. I hear he's great. Have a nice day"

Schiffty: " Find out who that was! We are finally taking down the President!"
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Old 11-20-2019, 02:37 PM   #159
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Plot twist. The "Whistleblower" is Trump and he got this kicked off to make them look like fools.

A transcript of the whistleblowing phone call was just released.

Schiffty: "Hello"

WB: "Yes, is this Congressman Adam Schiff?" (snickering in backgroud)

Schiffty: "yes it is"

WB: "I have some very very bad information on the President, I mean it's real bad. I thought it was bad before, but this is really...really bad stuff" (more snickering)

Schiffty: "What is it?! Do you have actual nudes of him this time?! I'll take whatever it is!"

WB: "No. No nudes. But I hear if there were nudes they would be the best. I've seen good nudes before, but these would be absolutely outstanding. Just some of the greatest, well maybe the greatest ever. IDK, but some people would say that."

Schiffty: "Okay, then what do you have?"

WB: "I was on a phone call (suppressed laughter), with the President, who by the way I hear is just great, I mean this guy is just phenomenal isn't he? Anyways, I was on a phone call with the President and the President of Ukraine, and there was some very, very bad stuff going on. I mean just really really bad."

Schiffty: "what did you hear?"

WB: "He threatened to withold tons and tons of money if they didn't investigate sleepy unc.... I mean, Joe Biden, who by the way I hear is just the worst. They say he's the bad of the bad. I don't know who says it, but they say it. Anyways, he told Ukraine they wouldn't get the money unless they looked into this guy"

Schiffty: "my God! We have got him this time!"

WB: "That's all I've got. Actually I have know a lot more! Some even say i'm brilliant, idk about that, but MAYBE! Anyways (suppressed laughter), do with that what you will. I don't know that you can take him on, but you can try. I hear he's great. Have a nice day"

Schiffty: " Find out who that was! We are finally taking down the President!"



I read every word of that in the voice of the alleged speaker, in my head. That was hilarious.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:04 PM   #160
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Plot twist. The "Whistleblower" is Trump and he got this kicked off to make them look like fools.

A transcript of the whistleblowing phone call was just released.

Schiffty: "Hello"

WB: "Yes, is this Congressman Adam Schiff?" (snickering in backgroud)

Schiffty: "yes it is"

WB: "I have some very very bad information on the President, I mean it's real bad. I thought it was bad before, but this is really...really bad stuff" (more snickering)

Schiffty: "What is it?! Do you have actual nudes of him this time?! I'll take whatever it is!"

WB: "No. No nudes. But I hear if there were nudes they would be the best. I've seen good nudes before, but these would be absolutely outstanding. Just some of the greatest, well maybe the greatest ever. IDK, but some people would say that."

Schiffty: "Okay, then what do you have?"

WB: "I was on a phone call (suppressed laughter), with the President, who by the way I hear is just great, I mean this guy is just phenomenal isn't he? Anyways, I was on a phone call with the President and the President of Ukraine, and there was some very, very bad stuff going on. I mean just really really bad."

Schiffty: "what did you hear?"

WB: "He threatened to withold tons and tons of money if they didn't investigate sleepy unc.... I mean, Joe Biden, who by the way I hear is just the worst. They say he's the bad of the bad. I don't know who says it, but they say it. Anyways, he told Ukraine they wouldn't get the money unless they looked into this guy"

Schiffty: "my God! We have got him this time!"

WB: "That's all I've got. Actually I have know a lot more! Some even say i'm brilliant, idk about that, but MAYBE! Anyways (suppressed laughter), do with that what you will. I don't know that you can take him on, but you can try. I hear he's great. Have a nice day"

Schiffty: " Find out who that was! We are finally taking down the President!"
This must be the "perfect" phone call we keep hearing about
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:48 PM   #161
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Plot twist. The "Whistleblower" is Trump and he got this kicked off to make them look like fools.

A transcript of the whistleblowing phone call was just released.

Schiffty: "Hello"

WB: "Yes, is this Congressman Adam Schiff?" (snickering in backgroud)

Schiffty: "yes it is"

WB: "I have some very very bad information on the President, I mean it's real bad. I thought it was bad before, but this is really...really bad stuff" (more snickering)

Schiffty: "What is it?! Do you have actual nudes of him this time?! I'll take whatever it is!"

WB: "No. No nudes. But I hear if there were nudes they would be the best. I've seen good nudes before, but these would be absolutely outstanding. Just some of the greatest, well maybe the greatest ever. IDK, but some people would say that."

Schiffty: "Okay, then what do you have?"

WB: "I was on a phone call (suppressed laughter), with the President, who by the way I hear is just great, I mean this guy is just phenomenal isn't he? Anyways, I was on a phone call with the President and the President of Ukraine, and there was some very, very bad stuff going on. I mean just really really bad."

Schiffty: "what did you hear?"

WB: "He threatened to withold tons and tons of money if they didn't investigate sleepy unc.... I mean, Joe Biden, who by the way I hear is just the worst. They say he's the bad of the bad. I don't know who says it, but they say it. Anyways, he told Ukraine they wouldn't get the money unless they looked into this guy"

Schiffty: "my God! We have got him this time!"

WB: "That's all I've got. Actually I have know a lot more! Some even say i'm brilliant, idk about that, but MAYBE! Anyways (suppressed laughter), do with that what you will. I don't know that you can take him on, but you can try. I hear he's great. Have a nice day"

Schiffty: " Find out who that was! We are finally taking down the President!"
Oh gawd! that's funny as a barrel full of dead democrats
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:42 PM   #162
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Oh gawd! that's funny as a barrel full of dead democrats
Speaking of dead democrats, where have they been?
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:49 PM   #163
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Another grandchild for Joe just in time for Christmas. He must be so excited and proud.

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Old 11-20-2019, 10:16 PM   #164
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I think that Sondland is just telling what happened. He is a goofball. I don't think that anybody with a brain thinks that the Ukraine aid was not conditioned on them doing an investigation. I think the question is whether or not this was done strictly for political purposes or if it was in the best interest of the US. And if it was done for political purposes, is that impeachable?

Sounds like Sondland was doing what he was told and is trying to CYA. I don't really blame him. At least it's not Hilary or he would have already been suicided lol
Was it for an investigation or for a public announcement that an investigation is coming? Thats one area that is debatable.
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Old 11-21-2019, 07:17 AM   #165
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It amazes me how deep this corruption goes into not only the politicians but you have lying military heads, ambassadors etc....
I believe that the bigger picture here is that the country is beginning to see the real deep state and how rotten many of these people have become for the allure of power and money. Drain the swamp and find people to replace them that have some form of decency and honesty...that maybe hard to do.
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Old 11-21-2019, 09:43 AM   #166
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Watching Adam Schiff try and swear someone else in to tell the truth is called what?
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Old 11-21-2019, 09:59 AM   #167
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Good Morning America had banner across screen this morning that said something like "Quid Pro Quo confirmed at yesterdays hearings..devastating to Trump presidency." What did I miss? True?
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Old 11-21-2019, 10:02 AM   #168
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Am I the only person that wasn't on that call to Ukraine?
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Old 11-21-2019, 10:12 AM   #170
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He's a Purple Heart earner
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And what have you done today?

He's fought for this country on the front lines.

And what have you done today?

Wood call him that to his face with no cops around in the back of a garage?

I highly doubt it.
He was given a PH for a busted ear drum... REALLY

But he has no "Combat Medal" LOL He's a booger picker...

It sounds like the military is getting as bad as Little league baseball. Everybody gets a trophy..
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Good Morning America had banner across screen this morning that said something like "Quid Pro Quo confirmed at yesterdays hearings..devastating to Trump presidency." What did I miss? True?
No you didnt miss anything but GMA left out the part where it was in his opinion Quid Pro Quo happened. You know opinions are fact to the left when they fit their agenda.
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No you didnt miss anything but GMA left out the part where it was in his opinion Quid Pro Quo happened. You know opinions are fact to the left when they fit their agenda.
Apparently twitchy ( sp ) Mochelle Malkin site. Had a bunch of text messages involving this Sondland fella.
Seems he ownes hotels in Oregon and has an elected official calling for boycott sof his business and he has changed his testimony at least 3 times. The fella calling for the boycott tweeted yesterday.....welcome to the resistance
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Old 11-21-2019, 10:36 AM   #173
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No you didnt miss anything but GMA left out the part where it was in his opinion Quid Pro Quo happened. You know opinions are fact to the left when they fit their agenda.


Yup. His interpretation was that there was QPQ. He then went on to testify that there was factually no QPQ. What a circus.


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(D) - In your opinion was there QPQ?
Amb - Yes

(R) Yes or No - You have first hand testimony of QPQ? Just your opinion?
Amb - No - Yes just my opinion

(D) So it's your opinion that QPQ for sure 100% happened, Trump did bad and should be in prison, and absolutely know it happened in your opinion for sure?
Amb - Yes IMO it for sure happened..

Repeat over and over. Fishing for words to twist in the media.
All these clowns need to be dumped on their heads.
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Yup. His interpretation was that there was QPQ. He then went on to testify that there was factually no QPQ. What a circus.


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I was watching and I think Schiff about shat himself on that one. Had tears in them big ol bug eyes.
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Devin Nunez just killed it with a summation.
Called out Schiff for the bs.
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Old 11-28-2019, 10:47 AM   #177
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This impeachment hearing has become an even larger debacle than most anticipated. Some people find it comical that this charade has continued and produced no fruit. I for one am not amused and find it infuriating that "allocated" tax dollars have been spent to further the liberal agenda of destroying our once great Nation.

Current actual estimates, not the bologna CNN reports, put us around $28,000,000 so far in spent resources on this idiocy. We have a constant growing national debt to foreign countries, an over inflated cost of higher education that doesn't translate to a livable wage, an ever growing disconnect of the American people to real problems, and instead of focusing on any one of the many issues our country currently faces, we chase after our destruction.

At this point I can't see any course of action that would be a favorable solution. Trump isn't the problem here. Never has been. My personal view of the guy is he is perfect for the job because he can't be coursed or bought. Such is the "fruit" of democracy that we elect our officials. God help us.
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This impeachment hearing has become an even larger debacle than most anticipated. Some people find it comical that this charade has continued and produced no fruit. I for one am not amused and find it infuriating that "allocated" tax dollars have been spent to further the liberal agenda of destroying our once great Nation.

Current actual estimates, not the bologna CNN reports, put us around $28,000,000 so far in spent resources on this idiocy. We have a constant growing national debt to foreign countries, an over inflated cost of higher education that doesn't translate to a livable wage, an ever growing disconnect of the American people to real problems, and instead of focusing on any one of the many issues our country currently faces, we chase after our destruction.

At this point I can't see any course of action that would be a favorable solution. Trump isn't the problem here. Never has been. My personal view of the guy is he is perfect for the job because he can't be coursed or bought. Such is the "fruit" of democracy that we elect our officials. God help us.
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Indeed...outstanding post & seeing more of the same being projected at the town halls. People are fed up & not going to be silenced which is refreshing to see!! These dems have to go back home & explain why this is more important than usmca / immigration / etc.

We've been on this ride just weeks ago & just another new line to another nothing burger & cannot see them moving formally as they are much more terrified of a trial in the senate. What a sham / total embarrassment schifty turned out to be. You simply cannot support this process as being fair & impartial.
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These Dems have lost their mind. They bring in liberal - loony law professors to say Trump should be impeached. What a joke!
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These Dems have lost their mind. They bring in liberal - loony law professors to say Trump should be impeached. What a joke!
Ivory tower liberal law professors who all voted for Hillary
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She took a jab at Trumps son Barron today during the hearings. It probably played out a lot better in her head when she was rehearsing.
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The local liberals sure have been silent as this circus has gone on. That in itself speaks volumes to the validity of it. Even they know this is just nothing burger with extra large side of Swamp fries.
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Pelosi is proceeding with articles of impeachment this morning. Basically the elite have decided that they don't like the vote of the American people are going to remove our choice from the presidency. This is the kinda crap that starts revolutions
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Bring it on!
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So, if the impeachment process drags on until November of next year can Trump still be a nominee?
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Old 12-05-2019, 12:43 PM   #187
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So, if the impeachment process drags on until November of next year can Trump still be a nominee?
It wont...but yes.
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So, if the impeachment process drags on until November of next year can Trump still be a nominee?
Their plan is to make it the news story for all of 2020 and by doing so create such public distaste that he wonít Be electable. They never believed they could actually impeach him. This is their Hail Mary, frankly their last option. They will have some collateral damage, both sides will, but to those who believe this is for THEIR greater good, it is a small price to pay. This was the play from beginning of the process
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Hmm, Nadler's committee has scheduled a hearing for 9am on Monday. Isn't that the same day that the IG report is supposed to come out?
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We know she won't bring it to the floor unless it's going to pass, correct??

So if the house does bring articles, then what?? When it get's to the senate, don't they get to pick up the ball & totally control their own hearings/witnesses.etc?? That will just steamroll over the joke we witnessed in the house & they don't want this exposed more than it already blatantly is?? I don't see how any of this helps the dems in any way at all & dragging it towards elections seems the most foolish move of all.

Maybe I'm all wet, but seems to me they can't stop digging.
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:56 PM   #191
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The dem senators that are running for prez don't want it, it will get in the way of their campaign time. Also they don't want the entire democratic party with mud on their face before election time, which will happen when it gets to the senate and the dems cannot control the narrative anymore. All of the politicians that have muscled their children into jobs like Hunter Biden had want to see this all go away also, dems and repubs. Pelosi, Romney, and Kerry have already been exposed, forget which one was working on the same board Biden was. They believe if they win, they can continue the cover up.

Cannot forget Hiiliary being overheard saying about the 2016 election "if we lose, we all hang". Hopefully between the IG report Monday, and Barrs investigation, we will find out what they need to be hung for.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:32 PM   #192
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Hmm, Nadler's committee has scheduled a hearing for 9am on Monday. Isn't that the same day that the IG report is supposed to come out?
There will be next to nothing on MSM about the IG report. This whole impeachment is damage/media control for that.
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Old 12-05-2019, 03:39 PM   #193
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Trump been pretty silent about the IG report on the twitter machine. Not sure if there isn't enough there worth hyping up the base...or he's intentionally creating a silence before the storm.
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We know she won't bring it to the floor unless it's going to pass, correct??

So if the house does bring articles, then what?? When it get's to the senate, don't they get to pick up the ball & totally control their own hearings/witnesses.etc?? That will just steamroll over the joke we witnessed in the house & they don't want this exposed more than it already blatantly is?? I don't see how any of this helps the dems in any way at all & dragging it towards elections seems the most foolish move of all.

Maybe I'm all wet, but seems to me they can't stop digging.
If it goes to the Senate, they can call who they want to testify. Talk about some butt holes puckering! Any Demorat called will plead the 5th. They cannot afford to tell the truth.
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:27 PM   #195
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If it goes to the Senate, they can call who they want to testify. Talk about some butt holes puckering! Any Demorat called will plead the 5th. They cannot afford to tell the truth.
And pleading the 5th screams wrong doing and guilt.
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Old 12-05-2019, 05:53 PM   #196
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The Dems want it to go to the Senate so the Republican Senators that are in precarious positions have to vote on it prior to the election. They are hoping they can keep the House and flip the Senate to a Dem majority. This will effectively neuter Trump if he is re-elected. It will also be a firewall for any Supreme Court nominations Trump will get to make if re-elected. This is their hand and as bad as it is, it is the one they have to play at this point. I think they bust in Nov 2020 and Trump will forever leave his mark on American History as the guy who broke up the Swamp and restored order for the American People.
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And pleading the 5th screams wrong doing and guilt.


Iím sure glad the 5th is there though.


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If it goes to the Senate, they can call who they want to testify. Talk about some butt holes puckering! Any POLITICIAN called will plead the 5th. They cannot......tell the truth.
Fixed it for you. They are all flipping dirty
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The Dems are toast. Look at the jobs report, look at Trump's favor rating and everything associated. Hell, even a LGTB or whatever those people are called have said they are backing Trump in 2020!
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What is sad is that Senator Linsey Grahm is already crawfishing about calling the whistleblower, Hunter Biden and others to tastify under oath should the proceedings be sent to the Senate. He is starting to look like a loud chihuahua more and more as are the rest of the senate & congress.
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