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    #46
    An issue is being made out of a fishing guide requiring his clients to wear life jackets (that I'm sure he provides) while he's RUNNING, because he didn't tell them about it beforehand? If that's such an inconvenience for someone that they would cancel the trip, they shouldn't be going fishing in the first place. God forbid they'd have to touch an "icky" fish...
    Last edited by JMKro; 10-27-2020, 05:37 AM.

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      #47
      Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
      The point was do you tell people they have to wear a PFD before they hand over money?

      It's like a going guided hunting in Idaho with a rifle, getting there and the guide telling you oh by the way, that you have to wear blaze orange even though the law says you don't.
      Again, does it matter? In 37 years the overall response when I put jackets in the seats, was “Do we need to put these on?”, and my reply as I put mine I was “ I would appreciate it”. You guys are giving me more grief than all my customers combined have. Safety be ****ed, y’all go ahead and stick to your “ nobody’s gonna make me do anything I don’t want to” attitude. I’m gonna make my and business owners life easy and wear a mask if requested.

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        #48
        Originally posted by JMKro View Post
        An issue is being made out of a fishing guide requiring his clients to wear life jackets (that I'm sure he provides) while he's RUNNING, because he didn't tell them about it beforehand? If that's such an inconvenience for someone that they would cancel the trip, they shouldn't be going fishing in the first place. God forbid they'd have to touch an "icky" fish...
        Again, the point is that he imposes mandatory made up safety rules on other grown adults without prior agreement. I've been on countless guide trips and charters and the next time a captain forces me to wear a PFD will be the first. I already stated that its his business, his boat and his rules but it'd be nice to know them beforehand.

        What else would I be in for the rest of the day if I haven't even left the launch and someone's already ordering me what to do regarding my own safety?
        Bait a hook or unhook a fish? Hooks are dangerous, gotta leave it to the pro.
        Handle your own fish? They have teeth and spines, professionals only.
        Casting? Someone could get snagged, better leave to Capt.
        We might swap ends & have someone go over? Better strap on a helmet.
        Thinking about going out without sunscreen? Yeah right. Someone could get a sunburn or skin cancer. Don't want to be liable for that!

        He even said customers ask if they have to wear a PFD. You think they ask him for fun?
        No, they ask because they don't want to wear one and want to know if it's optional or not.

        Originally posted by JMKro View Post
        God forbid they'd have to touch an "icky" fish...
        Looks at avatar....
        Last edited by BigJimmyRustler; 10-27-2020, 08:52 AM.

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          #49
          Originally posted by BigJimmyRustler View Post
          Again, the point is that he imposes mandatory made up safety rules on other grown adults without prior agreement.
          This is my whole point. If I was a guide, I would require them too. BUT, not disclosing that up front now puts a fisherman in a position where they have already shelled out money they can't get back if they refuse.

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            #50
            Maybe the person booking the trip should ask if any safety equipment is required. When you go to Six flags do you give them grief about putting the lap bar down when riding the roller coaster because it infringes on your ability to make your own safety decisions? I hate wearing mask and life jackets too but wear them both when asked to or it is required.

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              #51
              Originally posted by BigJimmyRustler View Post
              Again, the point is that he imposes mandatory made up safety rules on other grown adults without prior agreement. I've been on countless guide trips and charters and the next time a captain forces me to wear a PFD will be the first. I already stated that its his business, his boat and his rules but it'd be nice to know them beforehand.

              What else would I be in for the rest of the day if I haven't even left the launch and someone's already ordering me what to do regarding my own safety?
              Bait a hook or unhook a fish? Hooks are dangerous, gotta leave it to the pro.
              Handle your own fish? They have teeth and spines, professionals only.
              Casting? Someone could get snagged, better leave to Capt.
              We might swap ends & have someone go over? Better strap on a helmet.
              Thinking about going out without sunscreen? Yeah right. Someone could get a sunburn or skin cancer. Don't want to be liable for that!

              He even said customers ask if they have to wear a PFD. You think they ask him for fun?
              No, they ask because they don't want to wear one and want to know if it's optional or not.


              Looks at avatar....
              Which you're free to not consent to by not going on the boat? It would be one thing if he had a rule that didn't have anything to do with anything, but he's asking his clients to wear a life jacket on a boat while it's running. I just don't see where it's that big of a deal...

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                #52
                I put one on at the doctors office, which I've been to a few of for the first time in my life recently. Rarely anywhere else. I don't get stopped, generally inside the store 50% have masks, 50% don't. The only thing that COVID stopped me from was that fishing trip with Colin. That really sucked, but I don't really go to bars or anything anymore. Haircuts get done at a hole in the wall place that doesn't care about masks. My work doesn't require them. Gas stations, restaurants, shopping, etc doesn't say anything around here anymore. I've politely declined the door person and kept walking before. Security never showed up to escort me out.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by WItoTX View Post
                  Yep, Proud Pie in Katy. Even after I said I am unable to wear them, can I order and go stand outside, they said we can't serve you.

                  So they have been scratched off my list to go to ever again. Sad because they have some of the best Ethiopian coffee I've ever had.
                  To be fair, he is pretty left minded

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                    #54
                    To the life jacket being spring on you last minute anaologies, you are missing one very important part of this whole scenario. The gov laid out requirements early on, and counties have forced signs posted on doors. Violators will get businesses fined should they allow people entering if the county is under a mask mandate, and its reported.

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                      #55
                      I walked into Capps hardware in Fairfield this past Saturday with mask on. I was the only person in store with my mask and they looked at me like I am crazy. I am anti mask but do wear one to keep my flow going. Time is money in construction and sometimes it is just easier.


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