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Old 11-25-2021, 02:17 PM   #1
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Well guys, mamma wants one for X-mas but I have not a single clue about them. Looking for advice on what is accurate and simple to use. She will only deer hunt and shoot a few pigs with it. What yíall recommend and what bullets powder etc etc
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Old 11-25-2021, 02:28 PM   #2
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I traded a guy a 44 mag for a cva wolf 50 cal and it surprised me not heavy not a hard kick with 100 grs of powder and a 300 gr slug open sights at 50 gives me 1in groups. Cleaning is a pain but not too bad just time consuming.
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Old 11-25-2021, 02:37 PM   #3
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Get an inline 50cal. 209 primers with removable breechplug. Brand, there's a bunch to choose from. Not much help I know.
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Old 11-25-2021, 02:41 PM   #4
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I just posted a TC Prohunter barrel and forearm if that helps. .50 cal bullet and 100 grains of powder doesn’t kick all that much and will do the job on deer and pigs.
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Old 11-25-2021, 02:43 PM   #5
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Get a CVA , affordable and easy to use and they have some good how to videos
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Old 11-25-2021, 02:52 PM   #6
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Got 3 of the buckstalker packages from midway ( me, dad, and my son ) all 3 kill deer nothing fancy but they group better than minute of deer to 150 yards.
I use 250 grain hornady bullets and 100 grains of powder in pellet form.
No more than 5 shots and clean the barrel or its a big pain I usually clean after 3 especially on sight in.

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Old 11-25-2021, 02:54 PM   #7
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Get in line that uses shotgun primers...Way easier to clean..and maintain...BlackHorn powder its cleaner burn in my exp.....50 cal is deadly on most any thing
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Old 11-25-2021, 03:12 PM   #8
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I have 3. The cva is the easiest and most budget friendly. And where I'd look.

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The TC shoots better. The Hawkins is cool but a pia

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Old 11-25-2021, 03:55 PM   #9
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Get a CVA , affordable and easy to use and they have some good how to videos
I second.
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Old 11-25-2021, 05:50 PM   #10
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Not sure what level/quality you are looking for I currently shoot a T/C which I enjoy but had a chance to shoot a Woodman Arms (https://woodmanarms.com/) yesterday and will be getting one before next season. Very light weight, easy to shoulder and shoot, easy to load, and very well built! I like the way the rifle cocks it’s self when opening it, has a cross bolt safety and an indicator to let you know the rifle is cocked.

As far as powder goes Blackhorn 209 is the way to go. I started shooting pryodex pellets and once I made the switch I will never look back.

As far as bullets go I have swapped recently from bullets with a sabot to power belts and they seem to be easier to load and more accurate so far but have t had a chance to connect with any game yet with them.
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Old 11-25-2021, 05:54 PM   #11
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Got an expensive Knight with a green mountain barrel and a cheap TC encore. The TC's trigger is better, its easier to clearn and is more accurate, its actually insanely accurate. So the higher priced ones aren't always all that. Also use powerbelts, 295 grain.

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Old 11-25-2021, 10:33 PM   #12
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I have a CVA Wolf which is the entry level muzzleloader. It is very accurate for what I need it for which is only out to about 120yds or so. I use 2 White Hot pellets and a 295gr Powerbelt bullet. Iíve killed 6 deer with it in the last two years and have no complaints at all.

Someone said that theyíre a little harder to clean which is true but itís not too bad.

One note about CVA is that they offer a 20% discount to veterans. Thatís a nice price break (if you qualify) for a quality muzzleloader.


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Old 11-25-2021, 10:40 PM   #13
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In for the information as well because my momma also wants a muzzleloader. However, she’s in her early 80s, very petite, and I’m worried it will too much gun for her. Not that she’ll be shooting it much. I think she just wants to know she has it.
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Old 11-25-2021, 11:03 PM   #14
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Get a CVA , affordable and easy to use and they have some good how to videos
All of this ^

I have the CVA Accura stainless with Bergara barrel. Have a Leupold Ultimate Slam scope on the top.

It is a tack driver with 100gr. IMR White Hots and 224gr. Powerbelts. I have killed deer by neck shooting them without hesitation to 150 yards.

Recoil is negligible.
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Old 11-25-2021, 11:04 PM   #15
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Blackpowder rifles are addictive! I shoot a 45 cal knight extreme and a T/c encore in 50 cal. I had a cva for a short while- got rid of it.
For a beginner, I would highly recommend going with an in- line rifle with a 209 primer system ( stay away from percussion ).
I would recommend a T/C encore - prolly the easiest to load and clean. It is also very well made. If you are in NTexas Iíd be happy to walk you through mine and try them out.
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Old Yesterday, 12:11 AM   #16
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Any of the inlines with 209 primers mentioned above will work well. Pellets are simpler for someone starting out.

Stay away from Powerbelts.


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Old Yesterday, 07:26 AM   #17
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CVA optima magnum here. BDC Nikon scope. Uses 209 shotgun primers and has the removable breech plug for unloading and cleaning it with ease.

I shoot 150 gr charge., 250 gr. 45 cal Hornady SST Sabot and itís really accurate at 100 yards.

Get the stainless barrel. Just clean it with hot water and a brush then run a coat of bore butter in it. Simple and fast.


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Old Yesterday, 08:39 AM   #18
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Stay away from Powerbelts.


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This is stupid, find what your gun likes to eat, maybe yours doesn’t like belts but mine loves them, I’ve tried countless sabot and powder combos & 295 grain aero tips with two 777 pellets is the magic combo for my TC

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Old Yesterday, 09:01 AM   #19
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I’d opt for a Thompson Center Impact - it should have a 1" adjustable butt pad so it can be shortened for a women’s LOP.

Use simple .50 cal sabot bullets - Barnes or something similar.

Look for Blackhorn 209 powder substitute - minimum smoke and doesn’t require cleaning between shots. Blackhorn used to provide a service where you send them your breech pug and they’d drill the flash hole out a tad to improve ignition - for free. Don’t know if they still do or not.


Try the Modern Muzzleloader forum for additional info and questions. Good luck.

https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com

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Old Yesterday, 09:36 AM   #20
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I’ve got a cva as well and it shoots accurately and it’s easy to play with. Anything shooting sabots(plastic sleeves) will foul up because the friction inside the barrel will leave plastic residue which is expected. Because of this you don need to clean it every couple shots regardless of what others may say. You don’t want to get a fouled breech or you’ll temporarily be out of business. I got an inexpensive 9x vortex and it’s a shooter. Enjoy.
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Old Yesterday, 09:45 AM   #21
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I just picked mine up. It seems currently the 209 primers are the hardest to find out of all the things needed. Is that gonna change anytime in the near future or will 209 primers become an endangered species?
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