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Old 11-23-2021, 11:20 PM   #1
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Default NASA to crash rocket into asteroid

To see if it will change the course of the asteroid. Just a test no threat to Earth.

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Old 11-23-2021, 11:48 PM   #2
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it'll probably be a success; that no harm asteroid will probably hit Earth in 20 years now.

na, that lightweight space ship will just disintegrate on that hard rock asteroid
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Old 11-23-2021, 11:55 PM   #3
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Any chance we can place some congressmen and senators on the rocket??
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Old 11-24-2021, 02:17 AM   #4
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Any chance we can place some a bunch of congressmen and senators on the rocket??
I can’t believe you said that.

I fixed it for you.


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Old 11-24-2021, 02:24 AM   #5
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No threat to us now.
But if they change it's course, it might become one.
Seems, every time mankind messes with mother nature.
It doesn't turn out well.
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:34 PM   #6
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Trying to keep themselves relevant.
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:41 PM   #7
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What could possibly go wrong with changing the course of an asteroid that currently isn’t a threat?

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Old 11-24-2021, 08:48 PM   #8
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I saw a few news reports on it. Some folks were concerned, some were saying it made sense. So, I checked to see what astro-physicist Neil deGrasse Tyson said about it. He broke it down for us far less knowledgeable cavemen ..............and it works for me! Way more upside. That is how science works, experimentation! We deaux know that dinosaur's became extinct by a huge asteroid strike, thus why take the chance when we can at least be prepared if it became a issue to mankind.
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:49 PM   #9
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braking a big rock makes lots of small rocks right?
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:53 PM   #10
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Any chance we can place A COUPLE TRAILER LOADS of congressmen and senators on the rocket??

Verse 4#
Hammer inbound?
Attempting to disrupt the inbound hammer?

Stay calm. Carry on.
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:11 PM   #11
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Guess they just now watched the movie Armagedon.
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:28 PM   #12
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Any chance we can place some congressmen and senators on the rocket??
Maybe president pudding, and his trustworthy sidekick?
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Old 11-25-2021, 08:53 AM   #13
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No threat to us now.
But if they change it's course, it might become one.
Seems, every time mankind messes with mother nature.
It doesn't turn out well.

This.


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Old 11-25-2021, 10:37 AM   #14
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Old 11-25-2021, 10:53 AM   #15
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Giant waste of tax payer money.

I would love to see their mathematical models on this and their probability distribution on how much they think they can “move” an astroid based on different size astroids.

Kind of like a nat in a elephants butt, I don’t see it having an impact.
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Old 11-25-2021, 06:38 PM   #16
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It's probably a lot worse than they are letting on. Probably the end of humanity, they're scrambling, but keeping it quiet to avoid chaos. Nice knowing ya'll
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I saw a few news reports on it. Some folks were concerned, some were saying it made sense. So, I checked to see what astro-physicist Neil deGrasse Tyson said about it. He broke it down for us far less knowledgeable cavemen ..............and it works for me! Way more upside. That is how science works, experimentation! We deaux know that dinosaur's became extinct by a huge asteroid strike, thus why take the chance when we can at least be prepared if it became a issue to mankind.
X2, this makes sense. Do this now when just an “experiment” that can provide information if ever really needed.
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Put Joe and the ho in front seats on the thing
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Why would we wait for one to enter our system that will be a threat..to test? I am all for this.
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Giant waste of tax payer money.
I would love to see their mathematical models on this and their probability distribution on how much they think they can “move” an astroid based on different size astroids.
Why would they approve funding if all mathematical models showed no indication of course deviation?
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Why would they approve funding if all mathematical models showed no indication of course deviation?
Because they can. It cost them nothing, we pay for it.

The asteroid that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs was estimated to be 57-8 miles wide traveling 30k mph. Do you think a rocket that burned most of it propellant to escape the atmosphere would have enough weight left to cause any movement. It’s like shooting a BB gun at a tank.

Show me what a rocket can apply to an asteroid before it hits terminal zone and how big of asteroid that amount of force can move.
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If that rocket has a small nuclear device onboard the explosion might wiggle it some but do we even know for sure how big that rock is? If it is car sized then sure it will move or even turn it into space dust but if it is several miles across that's another thing.
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Does anyone notice a change in direction when hitting a junebug in your vehicle?
Similar to thinking that we can control the weather. Someone dropped the ball on that last February.
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Because they can. It cost them nothing, we pay for it.

The asteroid that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs was estimated to be 57-8 miles wide traveling 30k mph. Do you think a rocket that burned most of it propellant to escape the atmosphere would have enough weight left to cause any movement. It’s like shooting a BB gun at a tank.

Show me what a rocket can apply to an asteroid before it hits terminal zone and how big of asteroid that amount of force can move.
Thanks for you response. I am not disagreeing with you I am just curious that is all.

What is the largest size astroid you think we CAN successfully deviate? How much damage would that astroid do if it impacted earth?
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Thanks for you response. I am not disagreeing with you I am just curious that is all.

What is the largest size astroid you think we CAN successfully deviate? How much damage would that astroid do if it impacted earth?
We are asking the same questions.

“ Show me what a rocket can apply to an asteroid before it hits terminal zone and how big of asteroid that amount of force can move.”
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We are asking the same questions.

“ Show me what a rocket can apply to an asteroid before it hits terminal zone and how big of asteroid that amount of force can move.”

Asteroid - 530-foot
Impact Velocity -15,000 mph
Impactor mass - 610 kg (1,340 lb),
Impact - 500 kg (1,100 lb)
Velocity change of asteroid expected- 0.4 mm/s

Guess we will see next September if their calculation was accurate.
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If we were able to hit an asteroid a few million miles away, it wouldn’t have to move it much at all to dramatically change the outcome here. So if you could change the trajectory by a fraction, of a fraction of a degree then that could be the difference between a direct hit vs an air burst vs skipping off of the atmosphere.

The same could be done with either speeding up an asteroid or slowing it down. If it is done soon enough, the gravitational pull from other planets could alter the trajectory by decreasing or increasing the time planet’s gravitational pull have to effect the asteroid.


There are thousands of variables which makes predicting what is going to happen VERY difficult.
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Isn't there a Gerard Butler movie about asteroids hitting earth? Greenland or something like that.

In that movie everyone is under the impression the asteroid is gonna miss earth until it's too late... meanwhile all the governments knew the truth all along.

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Isn't there a Gerard Butler movie about asteroids hitting earth? Greenland or something like that.

In that movie everyone is under the impression the asteroid is gonna miss earth until it's too late... meanwhile all the governments knew the truth all along.

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Them cloned twins though
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Drill baby drill!
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If we were able to hit an asteroid a few million miles away, it wouldn’t have to move it much at all to dramatically change the outcome here. So if you could change the trajectory by a fraction, of a fraction of a degree then that could be the difference between a direct hit vs an air burst vs skipping off of the atmosphere.

The same could be done with either speeding up an asteroid or slowing it down. If it is done soon enough, the gravitational pull from other planets could alter the trajectory by decreasing or increasing the time planet’s gravitational pull have to effect the asteroid.


There are thousands of variables which makes predicting what is going to happen VERY difficult.
X2 this. Don’t need it “blowed up real good”, just need a small change in some variable while it is far enough away from Mother Earth.
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We're all gonna die...........
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We're all gonna die...........
Yep, Humans are the only animals who know they are terminal, but I gotta agree with Gus:

“'It ain't dying I'm talking about, it's living,” -- Augustus McCrae


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What could possibly go wrong with changing the course of an asteroid that currently isn’t a threat?

It bounces out of its course and bumps into the moon……
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