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Old 09-29-2021, 07:59 PM   #1
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I got this deer on camera a few weeks ago. On the fence about shooting him cuz he's a known 4.5 yr old...Free range, East tx. Would you shoot him if you knew there was a 50/50 chance you'd lose the 12 acre tract you had permission to hunt him on? Or would you chance it and give him another year? Mid 140's??
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:08 PM   #2
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Good looking deer and would be hard to pass. I’d say if he strikes your fancy let one fly!
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:18 PM   #3
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Really cool buck. I def think he breaks 140”

If I know he’s 4.5 I’m having a hard time shooting.


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Old 09-29-2021, 08:22 PM   #4
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100% shoot him. The neighbors could shoot him just as easily, and if you lose the place then it was all for not anyway.
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:38 PM   #5
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I would shoot and you low balled score. If that deer dont break 50, I'll buy you a steak dinner.

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Old 09-29-2021, 08:39 PM   #6
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So did the landowner say he was off limits? Why would you lose the lease? Would you still lose it if he was 5.5? Do the neighbors hunt?
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:42 PM   #7
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You gotta see him in the daylight first………
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:47 PM   #8
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So did the landowner say he was off limits? Why would you lose the lease? Would you still lose it if he was 5.5? Do the neighbors hunt?
Landowner doesn't care what I shoot... anything legal is fair game. And the landowner clearcut 11 of the 12 acres this last spring so technically I'm hunting a 1 acre strip along a SMZ. Landowner has tentative plans to build a subdivision once prices comes down. Neighbors do hunt some but not 100% sure how much.
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:51 PM   #9
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You gotta see him in the daylight first………
I agree. Nothing is ever set in stone when deer hunting... but if he keeps this up, I'm figuring my chances are pretty good at seeing him Saturday afternoon in the rain
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Old 09-29-2021, 08:52 PM   #10
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Unless he’s a small bodied deer I thin he’s 150-152, your call to take him or not
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:03 PM   #11
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Roll the dice…12 acres and the rut… good chance someone else might get him.
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:08 PM   #12
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On 12 acres, I'm shooting that buck given the chance.
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:26 PM   #13
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Is this a trick question?? Hel Double L yes you shoot that deer!!! What are you waiting on?? You got 10-160 inchers mounted on the wall already!! Why are you bow hunting if your not excited to shoot this deer??

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Old 09-29-2021, 09:33 PM   #14
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Well after looking at your avatar I remember your other threads! So yea you are one lucky bastaga. I remember some of the pics you showed off this honey hole of all honey holes on those threads!He might be a little small for YOUR 12 acres!!
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:35 PM   #15
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If he’s 4 I let him walk.
But I’m probably different.
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:40 PM   #16
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I would shoot and you low balled score. If that deer dont break 50, I'll buy you a steak dinner.
I figured him being 135-137 as a mainframe 8 with 8-9 inches of splits. What am I missing? And I hope you're right, cuz I'll take a 150 over a steak dinner anyday lol
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:42 PM   #18
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Is this a trick question?? Hel Double L yes you shoot that deer!!! What are you waiting on?? You got 10-160 inchers mounted on the wall already!! Why are you bow hunting if your not excited to shoot this deer??
Lol I wish I had that many 160's. Those are as scarce as hen's teeth around here.
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:43 PM   #19
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Giving your property circumstances I would definitely shoot him
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:47 PM   #20
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That’s a dead deer walking on 12 acres. Might as well be you that gets him.
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Old 09-29-2021, 09:51 PM   #21
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I figured him being 135-137 as a mainframe 8 with 8-9 inches of splits. What am I missing? And I hope you're right, cuz I'll take a 150 over a steak dinner anyday lol
56 inches tines, 33 mass, 45 beams . 17 spread. Thats 151 and all those numbers seem low end.

Heck you have seen plenty big deer. Maybe I have the bigeye. I know i would shoot him regardless.

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Old 09-29-2021, 10:06 PM   #22
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Unless he’s a small bodied deer I thin he’s 150-152, your call to take him or not
I think he is a pretty small bodied buck... here is a 5 yr old that swamps him in body size. He's also keeping everything run off the feed pile too so he's becoming a problem.
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Old 09-29-2021, 10:08 PM   #23
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In your situation I’d shoot that deer first given opportunity. He’s a dandy


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Old 09-29-2021, 10:18 PM   #24
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I'll come over there and kill that 8 for you since he's such a bully.
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Old 09-29-2021, 10:23 PM   #25
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Would not hesitate in that scenario.
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Old 09-29-2021, 11:18 PM   #26
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Dude, I hope you get him.
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Old 09-29-2021, 11:36 PM   #27
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I think he is a pretty small bodied buck... here is a 5 yr old that swamps him in body size. He's also keeping everything run off the feed pile too so he's becoming a problem.
Do you have history with this deer? Why are you sure he’s 5? I don’t like trying to age a deer from night time photos, they always look older to me than the day time photos.
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Old 09-30-2021, 12:06 AM   #28
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Is this deer located in Panola,Rusk,or Smith county? Did not want to list just one for obvious reasons. You can PM me if you want, but we may be neighbors…
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Old 09-30-2021, 12:18 AM   #29
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Properties like the one you are describing can sell very quickly. Especially to developers who have a lot of cash.
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Old 09-30-2021, 12:44 AM   #30
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Is this deer located in Panola,Rusk,or Smith county? Did not want to list just one for obvious reasons. You can PM me if you want, but we may be neighbors…
Shot in the dark, Panola.
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Old 09-30-2021, 12:50 AM   #31
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I would shoot and you low balled score. If that deer dont break 50, I'll buy you a steak dinner.
^^^I agree with this...except for the buying a steak dinner part

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Old 09-30-2021, 01:56 AM   #32
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Its a "no brainer" for me on acreage that small... He'd be on my wall....
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Old 09-30-2021, 06:50 AM   #33
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Shoot while you have the chance. Not only could you lose hunting rights, the odds of him making it through the season in east Texas are slim.
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Old 09-30-2021, 06:52 AM   #34
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Given the scenario I'm bending the limbs back on that buck first chance I get.
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Old 09-30-2021, 07:09 AM   #35
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Shoot him before hammer does. Better yet y’all start a thread battling it out!!


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Old 09-30-2021, 07:29 AM   #36
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100% shoot! East Texas, You might lose the lease, Small property, Be hard to pass up IMO.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:10 AM   #37
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Is this deer located in Panola,Rusk,or Smith county? Did not want to list just one for obvious reasons. You can PM me if you want, but we may be neighbors…
Lol actually he's not in any of the counties you listed.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:12 AM   #38
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Shoot while you have the chance. Not only could you lose hunting rights, the odds of him making it through the season in east Texas are slim.
I actually passed a buck last year that was just as good as this one, and 4.5, hoping that he would turn into something special. I haven't seen him yet and he's past due to be on camera... I'm sure he's on somebody's wall if I had to guess
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:25 AM   #39
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Call me crazy, but I don’t change my management practices based off of what someone else MIGHT do. I don’t care if a neighbor might kill him. The only reason that I would shoot him would be if the landowner was for sure going to divide the place up. If there was even a question about it I wouldn’t shoot until I got confirmation that the place will be gone next year. Small acreage honey holes can produce if you let them. Killing 4 year olds ain’t gonna do it though. I’ve been in a very similar situation and been burned for it. It can also pay off big time if it works. I think it’s more rewarding if it works when the odds may be stacked against you like this. That’s all just what I would do though. I wouldn’t blame you a bit for shooting him. He’s a beast and I’m a sucker for splits. Good luck whatever you decide.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:41 AM   #40
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Yeah the only pass he would get from me would be when I pass him off to the taxidermist.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:44 AM   #41
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Heck of a deer
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:51 AM   #42
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:51 AM   #43
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Call me crazy, but I don’t change my management practices based off of what someone else MIGHT do. I don’t care if a neighbor might kill him. The only reason that I would shoot him would be if the landowner was for sure going to divide the place up. If there was even a question about it I wouldn’t shoot until I got confirmation that the place will be gone next year. Small acreage honey holes can produce if you let them. Killing 4 year olds ain’t gonna do it though. I’ve been in a very similar situation and been burned for it. It can also pay off big time if it works. I think it’s more rewarding if it works when the odds may be stacked against you like this. That’s all just what I would do though. I wouldn’t blame you a bit for shooting him. He’s a beast and I’m a sucker for splits. Good luck whatever you decide.
i feel the same. all of my spots are small and over the years i have followed several big deer from year to year, a couple of them for 2+ years even after they were on the hit list, just because we couldnt get them in bow range. i have definitely been burned a few times as well, had 1 neighbor that killed "passed" deer 3 years in a row out of his stand thats about 30y from my fence.

this is a great buck, i think hes closer to 150 than 140.
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Old 09-30-2021, 09:20 AM   #44
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I'm in the shoot him bunch and think he's 144-146

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Old 09-30-2021, 09:38 AM   #45
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Helluva deer, i'd have to take him. especially on that size parcel
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Old 09-30-2021, 12:51 PM   #46
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Old 09-30-2021, 12:56 PM   #47
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We area tad bit over 10,000 acres...been MLD for years...and I would drill that deer any sit.

With a rifle...maybe not depending on what else was around...chances of loosing lease and thats a dead deer walking.
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Old 09-30-2021, 01:35 PM   #48
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I'll come over there and kill that 8 for you since he's such a bully.
Lol I heard that. And honestly if the landowner would let me have guests I wouldn't mind at all. At his age and the quality of younger bucks I have running around, he needs to die.
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Old 09-30-2021, 01:59 PM   #49
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Lol actually he's not in any of the counties you listed.
Good luck chasing him!
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Old 09-30-2021, 02:32 PM   #50
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Any low fence land in East Texas, he's dead. If I were a betting man, I would put large amounts of money he doesn't make through the first week in November. The only question in my mind is, if not you, who?
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