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Old 01-15-2020, 07:15 PM   #1
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What's up guys, wanted to get a thread going to see what everyone's thoughts on the best Public land hunt would be. Whether Alaskan moose or bear, Colorado elk or muley, Idaho elk or all other game you can transfer your tag to. Just wanted to hear thoughts and get some ideas out there.
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Old 01-15-2020, 07:52 PM   #2
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Idaho OTC deer or elk in a good area, and those tags are transferrable to a bear, wolf or mt. lion, if you chose to take one.
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Old 01-15-2020, 08:06 PM   #3
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I did OTC archery deer in AZ and will definitely be back.

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Old 01-15-2020, 08:14 PM   #4
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Depends on what kind of hunt you prefer. There are some amazing DIY OTC tags for just about all game in North America. My favorite so far is Alaskan moose but if planning a true DIY it’ll take just as long planning as it would to accrue a couple preference points for another species in another state.
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Old 01-15-2020, 08:18 PM   #5
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OTC Roosevelt elk in western Oregon is an awesome but challenging hunt, especially archery. Nothing at all like hunting Rocky Mtn elk. Most shots are within halitosis range and it will rain almost every day. A lot of good public hunting land along the coast. Bear and cougar are also plentiful and the tags are OTC and cheap. You just can't bait or use dogs so most are taken while elk or deer hunting.
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Old 01-15-2020, 08:31 PM   #6
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My son just did the Arizona deer hunt and killed a 8 point coues buck. From the pics it's a rough and beautiful place to hunt. Think I'm going with him next yr. He seen numerous Mule deer and coues deer.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:35 PM   #7
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I did OTC archery deer in AZ and will definitely be back.

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I second this. Add a draw for archery javelina. It's not super cold. Your not 10 miles from the truck unless you want to be. And the whole southeast of AZ is available with miles of public land. There are no wolves or griz and the people are genuinely nice.

My second would have been Wyoming pronghorn but I'm not sure how many units you can draw now with zero preference points.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:41 PM   #8
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I have been looking into a late season Arizona trip. All the different game and being able to chase couse and muleys on the same tag is drawing me in.
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:43 PM   #9
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I have been looking into a late season Arizona trip. All the different game and being able to chase couse and muleys on the same tag is drawing me in.
I went the week after labor day. It was nice to get an early start to the season. I'll do the rut hunt sometime I'm sure.

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Old 01-16-2020, 02:12 PM   #10
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NM doesn't have preference points, you have the same abysmal odds of drawing a sweet Gila tag as every other nonresident! lol
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:26 PM   #11
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NM doesn't have preference points, you have the same abysmal odds of drawing a sweet Gila tag as every other nonresident! lol
Yep. And you get to pay up front too. I'm so excited. Having said that, I may plop down for a desert bighorn one of these days. I'll be too old to go but I can wave it around like I won the lottery. Who knows, maybe I can get one of those off-road walkers that have a gun rest on them.

Pronghorn have some added restrictions. Used to be you were given a ranch to hunt when you drew. I don't think that is the same anymore.
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:41 PM   #12
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I am currently trying to plan and put together a blacktail hunt on Kodiak Island.

You can kill 3 deer each and fish. With flights looking like it'll be around $2500-$3000 per person for a drop camp style hunt. Just need the gear and food for the week.

Never been to Alaska or done a back country hunt but I am pretty excited to give this a shot.
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:41 PM   #13
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Idaho OTC deer or elk in a good area, and those tags are transferrable to a bear, wolf or mt. lion, if you chose to take one.
I've done this and had a blast.
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Old 01-17-2020, 04:26 AM   #14
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OTC deer in AZ or elk in SW Colorado are both nice!
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:27 PM   #15
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SW Colorado elk is no longer otc
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:05 AM   #16
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California Bear is a little cost prohibitive on NR tags, but logistically makes sense. They've banned hunting with bait and hounds, and the population was already large/growing so theres lots of places for bear.
I'm actually trying to go this summer for archery.
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Old 02-14-2020, 01:01 AM   #17
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NM black bear is OTC. I think all in is just under $400. It's on my radar this year.
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Old 02-14-2020, 05:59 AM   #18
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NM black bear is OTC. I think all in is just under $400. It's on my radar this year.
Black Bear is on my list as well.
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Old 02-14-2020, 08:05 AM   #19
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Old 02-14-2020, 08:14 AM   #20
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How is the hunting in the reminder of the CO areas that are still OTC??
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:41 AM   #21
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I would plan ahead and get a couple to 3 PP in Wyoming and come hunt pronghorn or elk.
We have some deer areas that can be drawn with 0 PP and decent bucks to be had.
Mt lion and bear are OTC up here and wolves in the right place are predators, no license required.
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Old 02-18-2020, 10:38 AM   #22
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How is the hunting in the reminder of the CO areas that are still OTC??
Terrible, don't bother

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I would plan ahead and get a couple to 3 PP in Wyoming and come hunt pronghorn or elk.
We have some deer areas that can be drawn with 0 PP and decent bucks to be had.
Mt lion and bear are OTC up here and wolves in the right place are predators, no license required.
Wyoming is all about fleecing non-residents. A week ago, a bill was introduced (and ultimately got rejected 1-28) that would have massively cut back on non-resident tags for elk. Very glad it didn't pass. On top of that, non-residents can't hunt wilderness, but yet are allowed to go bird watching in it if they would like, Wyoming really isn't as hunter friendly a state as some would believe. I can speculate, but I am 99% sure guides just want to have a monopoly of hunting area's.

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Old 02-19-2020, 10:52 AM   #23
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You couldn't be more wrong about that. Wyoming gives more NR tags than almost any other state for NR, only Co with it's OTC gives more and that is a changing .
Hunters in Wyoming are not behind the wilderness rule, the outfitters are and resident hunters are welcoming of NR.
But I encourage you to boycott our state for hunting, leaves more tags for those that enjoy a quality hunt.
The bill would have added many general elk tags to the draw, just limited some LQ tags and no residents were for it. Even the outfitters came out against it.
No need to wilderness anyway, I have never hunted in a wilderness area in 32 years.

Just ask the folks on here who have hunted Wyoming if they felt fleeced ?
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Old 02-19-2020, 02:18 PM   #24
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I hunt Wyoming almost every year, and truly enjoy the people and all the opportunities. I think anyone wanting a fun deer, elk, or antelope hunt should try it at least once. You'll be pleasantly surprised by your time there.
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Old 02-19-2020, 05:31 PM   #25
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Black Bear is on my list as well.
If you want to do bear, do Idaho. You have the option to bait and depending on the area, you can shoot 2.
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Old Yesterday, 10:35 AM   #26
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Thirds on Wyoming. Compare Wyoming's NR allocation of 25% with any other draw. I don't like the wilderness rule either but a lot of non residents limit themselves due to grizzlies. I used to do this as well but no more. I figure if a griz manages to eat me it must have been my time. If you really want to look at hopeless causes, try to draw elk in Utah or Nevada.

My only complaint is the nr hunters with 12 -14 pp keep trying to draw the same pronghorn units as I do. Y'all need to take a year off and just buy a preference point. Based on my calculations, I'm gaining on them at a 1/4 point per year. That's 12 years until I'm a top pp holder. I can't decide if I really want to hunt or finally see I'm at the top of the pp totem.

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Old Yesterday, 10:48 AM   #27
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With that many PP I would be watching winters really closely.
Pick a good year for conditions and come take a big buck.

The NR wilderness rule is a sham but the WYOGA has that law for their benefit.
The grizz keep me out of the big country up north too. I just don't want to deal with them. Call me chicken.
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