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Old 07-02-2020, 05:51 PM   #1
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Default Safest Lock-On for a fat guy?

I am 5-10" and 265 lbs. What lock ons would you recommend that you consider safe for big guys? (side note, in 2012 I was hanging an older lock-on 22' in a big pine tree and while standing out on the edge of the stand and applying downward pressure to make the teeth bite into the bark, the cables, unbeknownst to me, were rusted into and broke on me. So to say I'm very leery of platforms supported by cables is an understatement.) Was looking hard at the Family Traditions Lock ons.
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:23 PM   #2
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Woodsey tree stand is extremely secure. It has a lag screw on top and bottom of the stand then has a chain in the middle that goes around the tree then tightened with a turn buckle. I've always felt comfortable in this stand.
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Old 07-02-2020, 06:49 PM   #3
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Woodsey tree stand is extremely secure. It has a lag screw on top and bottom of the stand then has a chain in the middle that goes around the tree then tightened with a turn buckle. I've always felt comfortable in this stand.
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:09 PM   #4
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Lol why risk it? That’s like putting an anvil on an ikea shelf
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Old 07-02-2020, 07:48 PM   #5
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I know your asking about a hang on, I have a climber for sale that’s big boy I rated. Summit titan. Pm me if interested.
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:02 PM   #6
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:21 PM   #7
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Millennium M150
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Old 07-02-2020, 08:30 PM   #8
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None if you are as clumsy and old as I am. Iím tripod, ladder, or ground blind bound.
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Old 07-02-2020, 09:01 PM   #9
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That not fat just husky. I thought you were going to say 350

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Old 07-02-2020, 10:42 PM   #10
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I’ll hunt a hang on if I have to but don’t love it. Always feel like I’m about to plunge to the ground. I would get a nice ladder!
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Old 07-02-2020, 10:51 PM   #11
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Could get you a super squeeze and a set of spikes? Lol. Iím 5-11 and 235. Thatís the 80 foot pole at school today. I would worry more about your safety harness and your strap attaching your hang on than the actual hang on.




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Old 07-02-2020, 11:23 PM   #12
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Could get you a super squeeze and a set of spikes? Lol. Iím 5-11 and 235. Thatís the 80 foot pole at school today. I would worry more about your safety harness and your strap attaching your hang on than the actual hang on.




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I am considering the Tethrd Mantis Saddle now that you mentioned that. Never used one before but after watching all their videos, their product does seem like it would be safer to me.
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:39 PM   #13
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I am considering the Tethrd Mantis Saddle now that you mentioned that. Never used one before but after watching all their videos, their product does seem like it would be safer to me.
I will be honest.. I will probably kill an animal wearing this lineman belt at some point just for fun.. I am torn on the saddle situation.. there is zero doubt.. Your not falling with a saddle.. however there are times where there are just too many limbs in the way..

My opinion, which I would bet is semi backed up by data.. .. >50% of accidents from a stand happen getting in and out. So have your system dialed where when your getting in and out your fully attached. That can be a saddle, lock on climber, tripod..
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:08 AM   #14
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I’d go with a ladder stand. Piece of mind is worth a lot! You’ll never fully trust the cables on the platform again on a hanging stand IMO
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Old 07-03-2020, 07:58 AM   #15
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I just ordered a saddle to hunt out of for this season. If you're looking at saddles, take a look at the Cruzr XC, tethrd phantom, and the aerohunter kestrel flex. I ordered the Cruzr XC and it looks like it will be a hammock up in the tree. Can't wait to get it!
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Old 07-03-2020, 08:54 AM   #16
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You could lose some weight buddy ��.

You can text me your smartA reply lol
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:12 AM   #17
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Gametamer if you can find them. Woodsey too uses the same design.
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:41 AM   #18
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You could lose some weight buddy ��.

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Old 07-03-2020, 09:49 AM   #19
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I just ordered a saddle to hunt out of for this season. If you're looking at saddles, take a look at the Cruzr XC, tethrd phantom, and the aerohunter kestrel flex. I ordered the Cruzr XC and it looks like it will be a hammock up in the tree. Can't wait to get it!
I will be hunting out of the Tethrd Phantom and Predator platform with Shikar climbing sticks here in Iowa this season on some sits where I don't have preset stands in place. I have a big public ground WMA (6700 acres) about 10 miles from my house that I will be hunting during the week some. My saddle rig will be perfect for that area.

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Old 07-03-2020, 10:38 AM   #20
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Fat guy formerly fatter guy reporting

I've been in a XOP maximus, xop air raid, millenium m50 and game tamer stands. All of them are fine, I don't like the game tamer because I prefer to stand and just can't get comfortable in the game tamer.

My mobile setup is an XOP air raid with hawk helium sticks and if I were buying more hang ons to leave in place it would be the millenium M50. I put a second ratchet strap on the bottom of the millenium so it can't kick out. It isn't necessary but I like it for piece of mind.

Another to think about is family tradition. Looks like a super sturdy stand with chains connecting the platform instead of cables but they are pricey. EDIT- Guess I should have read your entire post. I thought hard about them for the same reason. After being in stands with cables a bunch now I don't even think about them anymore. I connect to the tree before I climb in though.

Lone wolf alpha would be fine too.

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Old 07-03-2020, 12:15 PM   #21
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Im 5' 9.5", weight 240 most days. I personally like Ol Man climbers. The newer manufactured one's are overly engineered, it weighs considerable more than the older models. They are built like a tank.
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Old 07-03-2020, 12:55 PM   #22
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I'm right there with you. A good scissor lift for us fat guys. Just hot it with all terrain tires. Can pack in more snacks. And the electric motors are relatively quiet.
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Old 07-04-2020, 03:04 PM   #23
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I just ordered a saddle to hunt out of for this season. If you're looking at saddles, take a look at the Cruzr XC, tethrd phantom, and the aerohunter kestrel flex. I ordered the Cruzr XC and it looks like it will be a hammock up in the tree. Can't wait to get it!
Man after watching a bunch of videos on the Cruzr XC, I think that's the route I'm wanting to go too. Lemme know how well you like yours after you try it out.
BTW, what sticks/ladder/climbing steps were you planning on using with yours?And are you gonna run a platform as well?
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Old 07-04-2020, 03:06 PM   #24
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I will be hunting out of the Tethrd Phantom and Predator platform with Shikar climbing sticks here in Iowa this season on some sits where I don't have preset stands in place. I have a big public ground WMA (6700 acres) about 10 miles from my house that I will be hunting during the week some. My saddle rig will be perfect for that area.

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You've got it going on! How do you like the Shikar climbing sticks so far?
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Old 07-04-2020, 03:46 PM   #25
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Old 07-04-2020, 03:48 PM   #26
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I'm right there with you. A good scissor lift for us fat guys. Just hot it with all terrain tires. Can pack in more snacks. And the electric motors are relatively quiet.
For sure. Those motors are only slightly loud when they lifting you (safely I might add) and lowering you (safely as well)!
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Old 07-06-2020, 10:07 AM   #27
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Man after watching a bunch of videos on the Cruzr XC, I think that's the route I'm wanting to go too. Lemme know how well you like yours after you try it out.
BTW, what sticks/ladder/climbing steps were you planning on using with yours?And are you gonna run a platform as well?
Will do!

I will be running the 20" hawk heliums with an aider of some sort and the OOAL ridge runner platform.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:03 PM   #28
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You've got it going on! How do you like the Shikar climbing sticks so far?
I dont have the Shikars yet. Still waiting on them. In the pictures above I had climbed with a set of aluminum Rapid Rails.
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Old 08-01-2020, 02:55 PM   #29
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I dont have the Shikars yet. Still waiting on them. In the pictures above I had climbed with a set of aluminum Rapid Rails.
Ha!

I just ordered a phantom with a ropeman and platform... looks like your exact set up. I just came in looking to see if anyone else was trying this. I have also been considering shikars but still have my old rapid rails! Let me know how you like them once they arrive!
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Old 08-01-2020, 03:08 PM   #30
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I've got a super safe Ladder stand (NIB) for sale if you're into that sort of thing.
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Old 08-01-2020, 03:36 PM   #31
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I started hunting on the ground about 5 years ago. I just pile up limbs and cut a few cedar limbs. Iíve actually seen more deer hunting from the ground that in a hang on.


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Old 08-01-2020, 06:10 PM   #32
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Ground blinds are your best bet. The Summit climbing stands are about as sturdy as they come in my experience. But Ladder stands and Tripods are safer and sturdier.
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Old 08-01-2020, 06:31 PM   #33
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This. Iím 6Ē3 245 and use these all season.


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