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Old 07-31-2020, 05:52 PM   #6651
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Going to try OTC south Colorado elk hunt this year again. Looking at unit 80. Are Colorado OTC elk tags unit specific?
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Old 07-31-2020, 07:55 PM   #6652
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Going to try OTC south Colorado elk hunt this year again. Looking at unit 80. Are Colorado OTC elk tags unit specific?

No, just make sure that you look into the 2020 Regs about that unit. They switched a bunch of the OTC units in the sw part of the state to draw this year. Your otc tag is good for any otc unit in the state
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Old 08-01-2020, 02:58 AM   #6653
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a good lightweight tripod to use for glassing in the back country? Headed to Colorado in September and working on gathering up all the gear I need.


I pack a tripod for mule deer, but donít for elk. Unless you are hunting for a trophy, Iíd save the money and weight. Resting your binos on a short trekking pole while seated should get you stable enough to spot elk farther away than you can hike.


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Old 08-01-2020, 07:49 AM   #6654
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No, just make sure that you look into the 2020 Regs about that unit. They switched a bunch of the OTC units in the sw part of the state to draw this year. Your otc tag is good for any otc unit in the state
Thanks, got a buddy that has a cabin in 78, but that's one they switched.
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Old 08-01-2020, 04:02 PM   #6655
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Finally got a chance to go scout further from camp today. Found a prime spot with tons of sign. Saw a cinnamon bear, and a bull still in full velvet. Nothing like a close encounter to get ya pumped for season. Another blonde bear driving back to camp. Got my cams set can't wait for mid september!

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Old 08-03-2020, 11:46 AM   #6656
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I pack a tripod for mule deer, but donít for elk. Unless you are hunting for a trophy, Iíd save the money and weight. Resting your binos on a short trekking pole while seated should get you stable enough to spot elk farther away than you can hike.

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Why for mule deer but not for Elk? Are you spending less time behind the bino's for Elk than for mule deer? I have a cow tag so I'm not at all worried about trophy or antlers. Additionally, this is my first time so my expectations of success are slim to none. Main focus for this trip is gear and testing it out so I'm better prepared for next year and locating animals. I'll really be happy just to find them and practice stalking.
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:54 AM   #6657
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Save some weight and just have some trekking poles or a walking stick to rest them on.
Most of your elk glassing will be seated, rest your elbows on knees for solid rest.
Mule deer are also more open country animals , elk more so in timber but not always.
Elk racks are also very easy to spot from a distance, mulies need some closer looks to know what they are carrying on their heads.
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Old 08-03-2020, 12:08 PM   #6658
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Has anybody else been impressed with goHUNT's new mapping app? I'm a big fan.
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Old 08-03-2020, 03:40 PM   #6659
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Why for mule deer but not for Elk? Are you spending less time behind the bino's for Elk than for mule deer? I have a cow tag so I'm not at all worried about trophy or antlers. Additionally, this is my first time so my expectations of success are slim to none. Main focus for this trip is gear and testing it out so I'm better prepared for next year and locating animals. I'll really be happy just to find them and practice stalking.
Yes less time for elk than deer. Elk stick out big time and it's pretty easy to see them in meadows and hillsides from far away. If you're cow hunting in September and you see a group of elk, there's probably a target in there for you, so no need to spend the time to pick the group apart with the glass on a tripod.

A caveat I would add is that if you're going to do any kind of filming, whether it be with a Phone Skope or a traditional camera, a tripod would be a necessity for quality video.
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Old 08-03-2020, 03:53 PM   #6660
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Why for mule deer but not for Elk? Are you spending less time behind the bino's for Elk than for mule deer? I have a cow tag so I'm not at all worried about trophy or antlers. Additionally, this is my first time so my expectations of success are slim to none. Main focus for this trip is gear and testing it out so I'm better prepared for next year and locating animals. I'll really be happy just to find them and practice stalking.
You can call in elk, and they tend to stick to thicker timber, by second week of Sept if you see cows they will have a bull there some where.

My range finder is 7x... about all I need for archery elk
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:04 PM   #6661
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Has anybody else been impressed with goHUNT's new mapping app? I'm a big fan.
I tried it a few days ago.. unless I was using it wrong the 3d on Google earth seemed better.. ill give it another try tonight
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Old 08-03-2020, 06:54 PM   #6662
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I finally figured out how to flip the map .. I like it . It's just a little hard to flip on a touch screen..
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:06 PM   #6663
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Yes less time for elk than deer. Elk stick out big time and it's pretty easy to see them in meadows and hillsides from far away. If you're cow hunting in September and you see a group of elk, there's probably a target in there for you, so no need to spend the time to pick the group apart with the glass on a tripod.

A caveat I would add is that if you're going to do any kind of filming, whether it be with a Phone Skope or a traditional camera, a tripod would be a necessity for quality video.
This.
In nearly thirty yrs, and several dozen elk, I've never once carried binoculars.
Only time I've had any optics was a couple yrs we used a spotter in the canyons, up above Paonia.
You can tell a if a bull is 300 or 350+ from 1/2 a mile with just your eyes.
Unless you're trying to decide on whether he's a 426" or 431" they're just extra weight I don't need.
In that case though, you will absolutely need a pair of Swaro ELs, with 4k lenses .
Elk are like horses, not really anything subtle about them.
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:29 AM   #6664
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I pack a tripod for mule deer, but donít for elk. Unless you are hunting for a trophy, Iíd save the money and weight. Resting your binos on a short trekking pole while seated should get you stable enough to spot elk farther away than you can hike.
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Save some weight and just have some trekking poles or a walking stick to rest them on.
Most of your elk glassing will be seated, rest your elbows on knees for solid rest.
Mule deer are also more open country animals , elk more so in timber but not always.
Elk racks are also very easy to spot from a distance, mulies need some closer looks to know what they are carrying on their heads.
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Yes less time for elk than deer. Elk stick out big time and it's pretty easy to see them in meadows and hillsides from far away. If you're cow hunting in September and you see a group of elk, there's probably a target in there for you, so no need to spend the time to pick the group apart with the glass on a tripod.

A caveat I would add is that if you're going to do any kind of filming, whether it be with a Phone Skope or a traditional camera, a tripod would be a necessity for quality video.
I doubt I'll be doing any filming but that's a good point I hadn't thought of.

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You can call in elk, and they tend to stick to thicker timber, by second week of Sept if you see cows they will have a bull there some where.

My range finder is 7x... about all I need for archery elk
Haha, I wish I could call Elk! Appreciate the vote of confidence though. It is something I intend to learn though as I don't want to always just be chasing cows.

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This.
In nearly thirty yrs, and several dozen elk, I've never once carried binoculars.
Only time I've had any optics was a couple yrs we used a spotter in the canyons, up above Paonia.
You can tell a if a bull is 300 or 350+ from 1/2 a mile with just your eyes.
Unless you're trying to decide on whether he's a 426" or 431" they're just extra weight I don't need.
In that case though, you will absolutely need a pair of Swaro ELs, with 4k lenses .
Elk are like horses, not really anything subtle about them.
Thank you to all for your feedback. I think y'all got me convinced to surpass the tripod, at least for my first trip, and just use the trek pole as needed. I'll be in unit 75/751 and from what I can tell so far, not many meadows to be found in the wilderness area which is where I plan to focus my efforts.
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:35 AM   #6665
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Get yourself a cow call, bite and blow type, Primos and Carlton both make good ones. Cowgirl and lonesome cow calls.
Not hard to learn those types. Comes in handy just walking or trying to sneak in, elk make lots of sounds most times, if you break a branch or something in good spot then give a soft cow call.
Use your binos to scan the area in front of you in the timber, lots of times we've had bulls and other elk walk right in on us while sitting a trail and walking down one.
Those binos will help in locating elk in the dark timber, you'll be surprised how little they stand out in the trees.
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:53 AM   #6666
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Iím digging it. Last night I exported my pins out of OnX and imported into GoHunt. Very easy to do,m; the pins maintained their original name/label but obviously all the icons are now the exact same.
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Old 08-04-2020, 10:30 AM   #6667
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I’m digging it. Last night I exported my pins out of OnX and imported into GoHunt. Very easy to do,m; the pins maintained their original name/label but obviously all the icons are now the exact same.
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Old 08-05-2020, 04:32 PM   #6668
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Binos:
Early season: I usually carry 8x as much for scanning terrain and routes as anything.
Late season - past mid Oct. 12x and tripod
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Well I successfully nabbed a leftover Sept bear tag in my Elk unit so I guess I'm all in looking for berries and scrub oak now. I timed that CPW page perfectly and got through the load balancing ticker 4 minutes before leftovers opened up, made me wish I had a plan for some of those good quality Elk unit tags that were on the list as I would have had a chance at them.
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:06 AM   #6671
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Well I successfully nabbed a leftover Sept bear tag in my Elk unit so I guess I'm all in looking for berries and scrub oak now. I timed that CPW page perfectly and got through the load balancing ticker 4 minutes before leftovers opened up, made me wish I had a plan for some of those good quality Elk unit tags that were on the list as I would have had a chance at them.

I thought about trying to snag one but Iíll be completely honest I have no clue what my main otc unit will be. I may hunt 2-3 of them lol


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Old 08-06-2020, 07:41 AM   #6672
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I thought about trying to snag one but Iíll be completely honest I have no clue what my main otc unit will be. I may hunt 2-3 of them lol


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Itís a rifle tag, and usually the management zone is a group of units
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:44 AM   #6673
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I doubt I'll be doing any filming but that's a good point I hadn't thought of.



Haha, I wish I could call Elk! Appreciate the vote of confidence though. It is something I intend to learn though as I don't want to always just be chasing cows.



Thank you to all for your feedback. I think y'all got me convinced to surpass the tripod, at least for my first trip, and just use the trek pole as needed. I'll be in unit 75/751 and from what I can tell so far, not many meadows to be found in the wilderness area which is where I plan to focus my efforts.

Big *** old burn on the west side.... google is a love hate. That timber can be much thicker or much thinner then it appears
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:21 PM   #6674
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Sorry, I didnít read through the whole thread to try and see if someoneís already answered but Colorado regs say:

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EVIDENCE OF SEX IS: BUCK/BULL Head with antlers or horns attached To carcass; Testicle, scrotum or penis attached to carcass.
If you bone out the animal, how do you leave the skull attached to the carcass? Take the spinal column?
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Web version; .kml file.
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If you bone out the animal, how do you leave the skull attached to the carcass? Take the spinal column?

In CO, You can’t, if you go to qtr they don’t care about antlers in an any bull unit. Leave twig and berries attached to meat(qtr or deboned), and you are Golden, don’t forget carcass tagging

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Old 08-06-2020, 02:02 PM   #6677
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In CO, You canít, if you go to qtr they donít care about antlers in an any bull unit. Leave twig and berries attached to meat(qtr or deboned), and you are Golden, donít forget carcass tagging
Could I leave them attached to the hide? I work extra hard to keep my meat clean and minimize hair. It would seem counter productive to toss a pair of nads in with it.
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Could I leave them attached to the hide? I work extra hard to keep my meat clean and minimize hair. It would seem counter productive to toss a pair of nads in with it.
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Colorado law states that evidence of the sex must be naturally attached to a major portion of the meat. This means part of the skin must remain attached to the meat portion and to either the udder (cow/doe) or penis/testicles
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Could I leave them attached to the hide? I work extra hard to keep my meat clean and minimize hair. It would seem counter productive to toss a pair of nads in with it.
It can be attached to hide if hide is still on meat.

Honestly it’s doesn’t shed a lot of hair and if you where very surgical it doesn’t say twig berries have to have hide on them. So technically you could skin them out. The urethra is basically attached to qtr Under skin anyway.
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It can be attached to hide if hide is still on meat.

Honestly itís doesnít shed a lot of hair and if you where very surgical it doesnít say twig berries have to have hide on them. So technically you could skin them out. The urethra is basically attached to qtr Under skin anyway.
I guess thatís true. Thanks.
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Old 08-06-2020, 04:39 PM   #6681
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It’s also possible to skin the sack and leave the nuts attached to the quarter. You don’t want to mess it up and cut them off but if you take a few seconds you can have skin/hair free proof of sex still attached.
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If anyone is looking for a last minute hunt! It is a great ranch and I can't wait to go back.
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Old 08-06-2020, 04:57 PM   #6683
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Could I leave them attached to the hide? I work extra hard to keep my meat clean and minimize hair. It would seem counter productive to toss a pair of nads in with it.
We simply leave them attached to a hind quarter and skin them out. Make Rocky Mountain Oysters when you get home, it's good luck for next year!
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We simply leave them attached to a hind quarter and skin them out. Make Rocky Mountain Oysters when you get home, it's good luck for next year!
Reminds me of that episode:

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Well I bought a OTC elk tag today.. I should be hunting with the Born and Raised guys for 5-6 days in early September and then Ill head back up solo end of season if we dont kill one..
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Slide the jewels into a big ziplock baggie and tape/tie it so it doesnít fall off.


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Big No! You CAN NOT remove proof of sex, then put them in a bag to reattach.
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Correct, they must be attached.


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Old 08-07-2020, 07:36 AM   #6689
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He probably means to keep the hair off the meat. Put the jewels in a bag and tie it off. Leaving it attached to the hind quarter.
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Well I bought a OTC elk tag today.. I should be hunting with the Born and Raised guys for 5-6 days in early September and then Ill head back up solo end of season if we dont kill one..
Nice! Pretty cool opportunity there.
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FYI to those who drew a NM tag.

https://www.governor.state.nm.us/wp-...r-2020-056.pdf

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https://www.governor.state.nm.us/wp-...r-2020-056.pdf

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We went to NM two weeks ago. I called the forest service office and they said that they consider youíre time alone in the National Forest being in quarantine.
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We went to NM two weeks ago. I called the forest service office and they said that they consider youíre time alone in the National Forest being in quarantine.
Yeah I was gonna say, camping in a tent in the middle of nowhere is quite the ideal quarantine.
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Big No! You CAN NOT remove proof of sex, then put them in a bag to reattach.

Slide the baggie over itís nuts and zip tie/ electrical tape above testes to close open end of baggie is so the meat does not get contaminated.

Did I say to cut them off and put in a bag?

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Old 08-08-2020, 01:46 AM   #6695
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I can’t help but wonder. Who’s killing cows but substituting a fresh bull head/skull to trick the game warden into thinking it’s a bull? Makes no sense to me why you’d have to do this.
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:03 AM   #6696
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I canít help but wonder. Whoís killing cows but substituting a fresh bull head/skull to trick the game warden into thinking itís a bull? Makes no sense to me why youíd have to do this.
A lot of things don't make sense in Colorado.
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:05 AM   #6697
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Slide the baggie over itís nuts and zip tie/ electrical tape above testes to close open end of baggie is so the meat does not get contaminated.

Did I say to cut them off and put in a bag?



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No, but someone who's inexperienced and never read regs might have taken it that way. Just wanted to make that very clear. I'm sure you know what you're doing
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Old 08-08-2020, 10:06 AM   #6698
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You would be surprised what folks try to pull. They can also tell what species the meat is from if you have some hair attached. Some may shoot a moose thinking it's a cow elk, happens more than you think. Heck a military guy shot a cow moose last fall and told the guy who happened across him dressing it he poached it because he can't draw a moose tag.
Skin out the nads and leave them attached, udder on a cow or one "lip" if you know what I mean. It doesn't affect the meat.
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Old 08-08-2020, 11:30 AM   #6699
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A lot of things don't make sense in Colorado.

Such as the 80% let off rule. Glad my elite is 75-90% on the sticker lol. They will have to have a scale to give me a ticket. Canít just go off the position of the stops since everything changes when you add and take twist out of the strings and cables. I wonder if anyone has ever actually gotten a ticket for it.


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Old 08-08-2020, 01:03 PM   #6700
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I canít help but wonder. Whoís killing cows but substituting a fresh bull head/skull to trick the game warden into thinking itís a bull? Makes no sense to me why youíd have to do this.
It happens, locals will pay for one tag and capitalize getting more meat from it. Sure doesn't seem too likely to us but think of East Texas and suddenly it's understandable. Lol
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