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Old 10-23-2020, 12:30 PM   #1
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Been seeing a lot of videos on bare shaft tuning... is this something new? Iím familiar with the paper tuning method.. but how many people bare shaft tune? My bow shoots great out to 60 with fletchings, but shot 3 bare shafts at 20 and all hit knock up and to the left... Should I change my whole set up and start tuning??
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Old 10-23-2020, 12:33 PM   #2
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POI left not angled left
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Old 10-23-2020, 12:43 PM   #3
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From what I understand, if your arrows are hitting straight with a bare shaft, it is tuned correctly. I don't think POI difference matters much.

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Old 10-23-2020, 12:43 PM   #4
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Depends, are you shooting a compound bow or traditional? I wouldn't bother with a compound that's already been paper tuned. Now if your shooting traditional this is where bare shaft tuning really shines.
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Old 10-23-2020, 12:45 PM   #5
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If your POI is left, that means you are slight nock right. You correct a nock right by moving the rest to the left. Do this with very small adjustments. It does not take much!!

Once your have straight flight, THEN fix up or down. If you are nock up or POI down, you need to move your rest slightly up.
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Old 10-23-2020, 12:51 PM   #6
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If your POI is left, that means you are slight nock right. You correct a nock right by moving the rest to the left. Do this with very small adjustments. It does not take much!!

Once your have straight flight, THEN fix up or down. If you are nock up or POI down, you need to move your rest slightly up.
I always correct nock height first, as in a lot of cases, it will correct left/ right issues also.
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Old 10-23-2020, 01:11 PM   #7
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I lean more towards broadhead tuning... now paper tuning and bare shaft tuning help get the process started.
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Old 10-23-2020, 01:14 PM   #8
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I always correct nock height first, as in a lot of cases, it will correct left/ right issues also.
Good point. I guess I meant, correct one at a time. Not both at the same time lol. That will really get ya mad
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I lean more towards broadhead tuning... now paper tuning and bare shaft tuning help get the process started.
Same. The main reason for changing anything, if the bow is already shooting good, is to get field points to group same poi as broadheads. Tuning with broadheads is the best way to do that imo. My only complaint is it chews up a target.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:21 PM   #10
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I lean more towards broadhead tuning... now paper tuning and bare shaft tuning help get the process started.

Shooting broadheads the bow shot same POI as the field points at 30, which is about my furthest shot and I was pleased with. I havenít shot the broadheads past that point. Just out of curiosity I wanted to see how the bare shafts flew, it was then I noticed the dilemma.

My question is now.. do I continue to seek the perfect bare shaft flight, or do I stick with what I have and continue to shoot as is??
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:39 PM   #11
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Shooting broadheads the bow shot same POI as the field points at 30, which is about my furthest shot and I was pleased with. I havenít shot the broadheads past that point. Just out of curiosity I wanted to see how the bare shafts flew, it was then I noticed the dilemma.

My question is now.. do I continue to seek the perfect bare shaft flight, or do I stick with what I have and continue to shoot as is??
if fixed blade heads fly and group with field points out to 30 yards you are good, I wouldn't mess with a thing!
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:14 PM   #12
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if fixed blade heads fly and group with field points out to 30 yards you are good, I wouldn't mess with a thing!
I totally agree... I mainly hunt with my bow so I only focus on getting perfect flight with my broadhead and FP POI. If you extend out past 30 you could fine tune it even more but most of the time you should be good.
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:37 PM   #13
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I bare shaft tune to 40 yards.. I can shoot most broadheads to same poi as field points.. when you tune with a certain broadhead that doesn't mean your bow is tuned.. for most people that is good enough.. but I'm picky
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:39 PM   #14
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I just bought new FMJ 300s. I know my bow is paper tuned and looks in spec. So I just nock tuned the bare shafts out to 20 yards. I feel very confident in the new arrows.
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Old 10-27-2020, 03:40 PM   #15
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I did this a few weeks back with my vxr. Then I took it to my local bow shop peep adjustment and they moved my rest again. What a headache.

They told me to stop watching YouTube videos and to just tune to the broad head I’m using.
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I did this a few weeks back with my vxr. Then I took it to my local bow shop peep adjustment and they moved my rest again. What a headache.

They told me to stop watching YouTube videos and to just tune to the broad head Iím using.
You need a new bow shop

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Old 10-27-2020, 03:44 PM   #17
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I did this a few weeks back with my vxr. Then I took it to my local bow shop peep adjustment and they moved my rest again. What a headache.

They told me to stop watching YouTube videos and to just tune to the broad head Iím using.
If you went in for a peep adjustment, why the hell did they mess with your rest?
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Old 10-27-2020, 04:01 PM   #18
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I did this a few weeks back with my vxr. Then I took it to my local bow shop peep adjustment and they moved my rest again. What a headache.

They told me to stop watching YouTube videos and to just tune to the broad head Iím using.
If they moved your rest they should have also swapped your top hats.. I don't care for mathews because they charge extra for top hats . To me they should come with the bow.. I have a vertix and it cost me 60 bucks for a top hat kit.
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Old 10-27-2020, 04:04 PM   #19
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I bare shaft tune to 40 yards.. I can shoot most broadheads to same poi as field points.. when you tune with a certain broadhead that doesn't mean your bow is tuned.. for most people that is good enough.. but I'm picky
Yeah a 3-blade broadhead or 4-blade broadhead will expose the same adjustments needed... I don't have the patience for paper or bare shaft tuning so just skip to the BH. I normally BH tune with a QAD exodus knowing a Muzzy, Slicktrick will shoot the same. Also during WT season I can shoot mech heads. As longs as all the heads spin true they should shoot if BH tuned correctly.
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Yeah a 3-blade broadhead or 4-blade broadhead will expose the same adjustments needed... I don't have the patience for paper or bare shaft tuning so just skip to the BH. I normally BH tune with a QAD exodus knowing a Muzzy, Slicktrick will shoot the same. Also during WT season I can shoot mech heads. As longs as all the heads spin true they should shoot if BH tuned correctly.
Quad exodus is the real deal. Thatís what I use and have 7-0 on pigs this yr
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Yeah a 3-blade broadhead or 4-blade broadhead will expose the same adjustments needed... I don't have the patience for paper or bare shaft tuning so just skip to the BH. I normally BH tune with a QAD exodus knowing a Muzzy, Slicktrick will shoot the same.


True and paper tuning will lie to you
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