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Old 09-02-2020, 03:45 PM   #1
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My wife bought a little Ford Escape with a 1.5L Turbo new in March of 2019. It now has about 30k miles on it and started have some misfiring and hesitation along with a check engine light. She made an appointment with Planet Ford in Humble since it would be several weeks before the local dealership in Livingston could look at it. She dropped it off last Friday and they called her today to pick up.... with its new engine! It turns out Ford has had TONS of these leaking coolant into the cylinders. There were something like 40k engines on backorder a while back if I read correctly. After she called me this morning to tell me what they had to do, I did a quick google search on this issue. It turns out these engines are total garbage and Ford has known it for several years. I read multiple accounts of engines needing to be replaced a second time a year or so down the road. I'm glad they put a new engine in it while it was under warranty but now I'm concerned about how long it will last. I hate taking a hit on trading it in but would y'all trade it in if it were your wife's car?
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:51 PM   #2
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My wife bought a little Ford Escape with a 1.5L Turbo new in March of 2019. It now has about 30k miles on it and started have some misfiring and hesitation along with a check engine light. She made an appointment with Planet Ford in Humble since it would be several weeks before the local dealership in Livingston could look at it. She dropped it off last Friday and they called her today to pick up.... with its new engine! It turns out Ford has had TONS of these leaking coolant into the cylinders. There were something like 40k engines on backorder a while back if I read correctly. After she called me this morning to tell me what they had to do, I did a quick google search on this issue. It turns out these engines are total garbage and Ford has known it for several years. I read multiple accounts of engines needing to be replaced a second time a year or so down the road. I'm glad they put a new engine in it while it was under warranty but now I'm concerned about how long it will last. I hate taking a hit on trading it in but would y'all trade it in if it were your wife's car?
Sounds like a great time to get rid of it
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:53 PM   #3
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In a heartbeat! You'll take a bigger hit down the road if you don't do it now.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:54 PM   #4
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My wife bought a little Ford Escape with a 1.5L Turbo new in March of 2019. It now has about 30k miles on it and started have some misfiring and hesitation along with a check engine light. She made an appointment with Planet Ford in Humble since it would be several weeks before the local dealership in Livingston could look at it. She dropped it off last Friday and they called her today to pick up.... with its new engine! It turns out Ford has had TONS of these leaking coolant into the cylinders. There were something like 40k engines on backorder a while back if I read correctly. After she called me this morning to tell me what they had to do, I did a quick google search on this issue. It turns out these engines are total garbage and Ford has known it for several years. I read multiple accounts of engines needing to be replaced a second time a year or so down the road. I'm glad they put a new engine in it while it was under warranty but now I'm concerned about how long it will last. I hate taking a hit on trading it in but would y'all trade it in if it were your wife's car?
Stay away from Fords.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:55 PM   #5
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they replaced the engine in my daughters 2013 Escape for the same problem and never had a problem after that... just a couple of sensors that seemed to nag that model. They offered me an extended warranty but I deferred and drove it another year and sold it.
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Old 09-02-2020, 03:56 PM   #6
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The 6th word in your paragraph answered your problem
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I would trade, but I bet you take a bit hit.


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Old 09-02-2020, 04:41 PM   #8
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I woukd trade it in asap!
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:45 PM   #9
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Keep it. I have a buddy that bought a 2017 Ram ecodiesel and it threw 2 rods at 7,000 miles just driving down the road. Everyone told him to trade it after Ram put a new engine in it. He now has over 40,000 trouble free miles.
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:46 PM   #10
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I'm not a Ford hater - but the words Ford & Turbo, put together, would be a deal breaker for me. I know a lot of guys have loved their eco boost engines, but my luck doesn't work that way.
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Old 09-02-2020, 04:47 PM   #11
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Call a regional rep and ask for or look at the Lemon Law and get a new vehicle.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:02 PM   #12
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:03 PM   #13
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It's across their line with that engine. Our 2018 Fusion has the same engine. While my truck was at ford, I asked the service writer about the recall that we received and if was going to do the same as our previous fusion with a computer reprogram, less power and mileage. She told me to just ignore the recall and wait for it to go out. as long as the recall issue is out there, they will have to replace the engine.
I'd bet your wife's escape doesn't run as good. They reprogram the computer to allow less turbo boost.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:12 PM   #14
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It's across their line with that engine. Our 2018 Fusion has the same engine. While my truck was at ford, I asked the service writer about the recall that we received and if was going to do the same as our previous fusion with a computer reprogram, less power and mileage. She told me to just ignore the recall and wait for it to go out. as long as the recall issue is out there, they will have to replace the engine.
I'd bet your wife's escape doesn't run as good. They reprogram the computer to allow less turbo boost.
This is my understanding as well.


As for all of the "stay away from Ford" comments... I've owned a LOT of them in the last 25 years and this is the first one to ever have any issues. Of course, I usually don't buy cars or small SUV's. The trucks have always been problem free. I guess this particular ecoboost was just a bad design. I believe all automakers have had it happen to a certain model here and there. That's why I won't buy a Dodge/Chrysler/Ram product. I've owned three and all were junk.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:35 PM   #15
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Trade it in just as fast as you can!
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:35 PM   #16
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Good news is Ford paid for a new engine. At no cost.
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Old 09-02-2020, 05:41 PM   #17
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All the mfgrs have their lemons. Luck of the draw.
Glad it didn't hit your pocket book. It might run forever now or it might blow again tomorrow. I would never be comfortable trusting it again. Little stuff like this in the back of my mind triggers an OCD response from me.
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Old 09-02-2020, 06:12 PM   #18
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The Ford bashers are kind of funny.
Of course we all know that every Toyota taco blew head gaskets...all the 6 cyl. for many years...part of the deal.
All the Subaru's blew head gaskets as well.
Now we also have the Ram Hemi's that absolutely will start knocking and they will blow up.
There is such a long laundry list of Chevy's, Cadillacs, and on and on it will fill all these pages.
I have no dog in the fight but it is comical none the less.
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Old 09-02-2020, 06:14 PM   #19
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Good news is Ford paid for a new engine. At no cost.
New engine if you paid cash keep it and drive it till you got to leave it in a ditch or sell it while you got some equity
If paying a note on it trading would be my option ( no reason to pay on it When you can roll out for a upgrade)
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Old 09-02-2020, 06:15 PM   #20
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Good news is Ford paid for a new engine. At no cost.
Absolutely.

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All the mfgrs have their lemons. Luck of the draw.
Glad it didn't hit your pocket book. It might run forever now or it might blow again tomorrow. I would never be comfortable trusting it again. Little stuff like this in the back of my mind triggers an OCD response from me.
Same here
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Old 09-02-2020, 06:17 PM   #21
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If you or your wife will be nervous about it to the point you are scared to take it on a cross country trip, just sell it. You should have faith in the vehicle you drive and if it’s going to worry you, why bother. Just my thought on it
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:58 PM   #22
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We had a 2013 Escape. Never had an issue out of it but would have the low coolant light come on about every 18 months. I would fill it back up. Literally less 5 ounces of coolant and it was fine. We just sold it at 7 years old and 130,000.
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Old 09-03-2020, 11:56 AM   #23
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:13 PM   #24
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I believe I would be doing some car shopping. I drive vehicles until they give me a reason not to trust them. This would be that point if it were me.
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My wife has a 2017 Ford Escape, but we ended up with the standard 4 banger rather than the turbo. Sounds like pure luck as the only reason we went with 4 banger was it was a bit cheaper and we were paying cash and avoiding a car loan.

With that said, if Ford paid for a new engine under warranty and that turbo engine is subject to problems, I'd probably look into selling or trading in for something else.
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UPDATE: Well, 5 months and about 5k miles later, she is having to get ANOTHER new engine installed! We were going to wait until summer, give this car to my middle daughter who will be driving soon, and get my wife a new ride. Now, as bad as I hate to take the hit, I think it has to go. It is now getting its third engine with only 36,000 miles on it. We are going to check into the lemon laws before making a move. I have owned a lot of vehicles in the last 25 years and I have never seen anything like this. Unbelievable.
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Old 02-26-2021, 06:20 PM   #27
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Ford had a service bulletin to get the diagnostics fixed for the coolant leak. May not be the same as your issue but my work car was brought in for that.
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Old 02-26-2021, 06:32 PM   #28
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The Ford bashers are kind of funny.
Of course we all know that every Toyota taco blew head gaskets...all the 6 cyl. for many years...part of the deal.
All the Subaru's blew head gaskets as well.
Now we also have the Ram Hemi's that absolutely will start knocking and they will blow up.
There is such a long laundry list of Chevy's, Cadillacs, and on and on it will fill all these pages.
I have no dog in the fight but it is comical none the less.
Yes it is, (and Iíve been a Ford guy all of my life), but I do think Ford quality has gone downhill. Iím wondering if Iím gonna get a couple hundred thousand miles out of my 2018 like I did the several trucks preceding it.
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UPDATE: Well, 5 months and about 5k miles later, she is having to get ANOTHER new engine installed! We were going to wait until summer, give this car to my middle daughter who will be driving soon, and get my wife a new ride. Now, as bad as I hate to take the hit, I think it has to go. It is now getting its third engine with only 36,000 miles on it. We are going to check into the lemon laws before making a move. I have owned a lot of vehicles in the last 25 years and I have never seen anything like this. Unbelievable.
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Old 02-26-2021, 07:06 PM   #30
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Hate to hear all your troubles. My secretary has a 2019 Escape 1.5 T with 12,000 miles had to new heads and all top end installed. Sounds like a vehicle to stay away from.


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Old 02-26-2021, 07:27 PM   #31
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Sounds like more of Ford's computer simulations did not work for crap, kind of like the recall champ of the past, the Focus. There is no substitute for real world testing, don't care how good your computer programmer is.
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Old 02-26-2021, 07:42 PM   #32
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I wouldn't give it to my middle daughter if it's gonna lose another engine and strand her. Trade that sucker in and get it out of your life.
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2018 ford edge with a 2.0 replaced engine for the same problem

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Talk to the regional rep and go higher if you must. Lemon Law should apply here no problem.
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If you are lucky it will catch on fire in a parking lot while your wife is shopping and insurance will buy it

I would not even make it back to the house after repairs made. Make them take the trade in hit or buy something different
No way I would want my wife driving it and dang sure would not send my daughter out in it. No telling where it might decide to quit.
I wouldn't even want to drive it
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We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty....
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It’s time to part ways. Trade it back to the dealership you bought it from.
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Sale it & buy insurance!!!!
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You know what doesnít break down?

Toyota 4runners. Casey deserves one.


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Old 02-27-2021, 07:38 AM   #42
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I tried to get her to get one last time and she didn't want one. After this next engine is installed, I'm getting rid of it. I think she wants an Expedition but I'm not sure. I'll never trust that this issue won't continue to happen. Apparently, part of the "fix" on the new engine involves reducing the amount of turbo boost which reduces power as well. So you don't even get a car with the engine specs that was payed for. I did some research and it looks like there is a class action lawsuit related to these engines. This doesn't scare me away from Ford though. I have owned lots of them over the years and this is the first one I've ever had an issue out of. I can't say the same for some other brands I've tried. I think any manufacturer can produce a problem model from time to time. This appears to be a really bad one. I'm still a Ford and Toyota fan.
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Old 02-27-2021, 09:17 AM   #44
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This is what happens when you throw a turbo on an otherwise anemic engine in the name of global emissions and mpg. All the manufacturers do it because it's cheap and the average person only keeps a car a few years so who cares what's under the hood? Ford just doesn't have a very good track record with small cars, they focus more on their trucks.
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UPDATE: Well, we picked her car up from the dealer and went and traded it. She found a left over '20 Nissan Pathfinder SL "Rock Creek" edition that she liked so that's what she got. Hope it's better than that piece of crap she had... Nightmare over with that car.

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Nice looking vehicle. I think you made a wise choice, given your situation and now y’all have confidence in what she will be driving.
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Old 03-06-2021, 07:04 PM   #47
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Sounds like a great time to get rid of it

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Old 03-06-2021, 07:33 PM   #48
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Nice trade-up for sure. The Pathfinder should be solid.
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Old 03-06-2021, 07:35 PM   #49
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Keep it. I have a buddy that bought a 2017 Ram ecodiesel and it threw 2 rods at 7,000 miles just driving down the road. Everyone told him to trade it after Ram put a new engine in it. He now has over 40,000 trouble free miles.
Lol, that's not that many miles...
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I drive a Nissan for a commuter car. Been really solid vehicle. I drive the pizz out of it too.


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