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Old 01-17-2021, 08:14 PM   #1
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Default First burn on my place in NE Texas

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Old 01-17-2021, 08:33 PM   #2
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One part of me wants to burn my whole place off, the other side says I will burn most of the county
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:50 PM   #3
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I use to do a lot of prescribed burns. Man I miss it....
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:55 PM   #4
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:56 PM   #5
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One part of me wants to burn my whole place off, the other side says I will burn most of the county
There are pros that do it more reasonable than you might expect. They handle everything including liability insurance. Might be worth looking into. A couple years ago I got a quote of about $40 an acre.
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Old 01-17-2021, 08:59 PM   #6
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Curious as I've never done one before, but need to clear ALOT of underbrush on my place...do you have a professional come and do the prescribed burn, or is this something you do yourself with help?
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:03 PM   #7
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Curious as I've never done one before, but need to clear ALOT of underbrush on my place...do you have a professional come and do the prescribed burn, or is this something you do yourself with help?

Did ourselves. My buddy has done multiple. We used some guys on our first few on his place. Then started doing ourselves.


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Old 01-17-2021, 09:37 PM   #8
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Looks good. Congratulations. The best thing you can do for wildlife.
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:40 PM   #9
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You guys are welcome to come down and help me do mine near Crockett.
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:40 PM   #10
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On a side note. Anyone ever had a fire get out of control and burn your neighbors property or had a neighbor let one get out of control and burn your place? What happens next? Are you liable for all damages if your fire gets out and burns a neighbors barn down?
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:43 PM   #11
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Tagged. I have some land I’d like to burn.
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:56 PM   #12
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There are pros that do it more reasonable than you might expect. They handle everything including liability insurance. Might be worth looking into. A couple years ago I got a quote of about $40 an acre.
$40 an acre!? 🤯
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Old 01-17-2021, 09:59 PM   #13
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One part of me wants to burn my whole place off, the other side says I will burn most of the county

I concur. I would like to try it, but worried I will burn everyone else down too
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:26 PM   #14
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I'm a pyro.

Fire is a very good, underutilized tool.
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:26 PM   #15
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We burn our hay field every other year. We make a very good donation to the volunteer fire department, they cone out and “ supervise” and then BBQ. It’s a grand ole time.
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:27 PM   #16
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Doesnít look too hard after watching a couple YouTube videos. Plan on burning about 6 acres next weekend.









JK ainít no way in heck Iíd do it. Iíve looked a little for a reputable person/company in my area but havenít had luck finding one yet.
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Old 01-17-2021, 10:59 PM   #17
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Good deal! If more people burned in east Texas we could have more turkey and quail!
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Old 01-18-2021, 09:15 AM   #18
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There are quite a few resources available for landowners in east Texas to burn.
Iíve hired contractors to burn my place 5 times now.
There are many insured, forestry consultants and contractors that know how to burn and several state and federal grants to help pay for it.

Hopefully we see the same adoption in central / west Texas where wildfire threats and fuel loads are greater
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Old 01-18-2021, 09:52 AM   #19
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Old 01-18-2021, 10:33 AM   #20
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On a side note. Anyone ever had a fire get out of control and burn your neighbors property or had a neighbor let one get out of control and burn your place? What happens next? Are you liable for all damages if your fire gets out and burns a neighbors barn down?
Yes, you are liable for any burns that get out of control and get onto your neighbors property. This could be a prescribed burn or a brush pile burn, so make sure you know what you are doing before going and lighting a match.
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Old 01-18-2021, 10:59 AM   #21
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Burning is a great tool and preventive aid for out of control fire. I would recommend a certified insured burn manager. The Texas Forestry Association lists about a dozen.
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:13 AM   #22
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You will be happy with the result!
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:16 AM   #23
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I sure wish we could burn our lease over a couple years.
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:21 AM   #24
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$40 an acre!? 🤯
I would guess there is some economy of scale that determines his cost. Also I would hate to see this guys insurance bill.
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:26 AM   #25
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why back in the ol'days i member my abuelo, do control burns as well chamuscando the cactus, for the cows.. those were the days in Duval county
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:28 AM   #26
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:30 AM   #27
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There are pros that do it more reasonable than you might expect. They handle everything including liability insurance. Might be worth looking into. A couple years ago I got a quote of about $40 an acre.
40 an acre does not seem to bad. Is there a minimum?
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Old 01-18-2021, 11:36 AM   #28
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My neighbor did a prescribed burn this fall. He used a certified burn master, which was required since our county was under a burn ban. It looked to me that it mostly burned the grass and weeds. It did not take out as much of the undergrowth as I thought it would. It did nothing to the cactus except to highlight how much he has.
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Old 01-19-2021, 08:53 AM   #29
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Old 01-20-2021, 04:52 PM   #30
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I wish I could find someone in Wood County. I have found a couple bear Lufkin but I don't own enough acres to get them up here.

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Old 01-20-2021, 05:00 PM   #31
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There are pros that do it more reasonable than you might expect. They handle everything including liability insurance. Might be worth looking into. A couple years ago I got a quote of about $40 an acre.

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There are quite a few resources available for landowners in east Texas to burn.
Iíve hired contractors to burn my place 5 times now.
There are many insured, forestry consultants and contractors that know how to burn and several state and federal grants to help pay for it.

Hopefully we see the same adoption in central / west Texas where wildfire threats and fuel loads are greater
I was wondering if the EQIP program would cover the burn. Definitly a good tool to keep brush under control. My place in SMith county has big pine so no undergrowth issues. But my place in Bowie County is a stinking mess.
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:16 PM   #32
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I did 8 acres when I purchased my property. Divided in into 4 sections. Have several people to help. Had plenty of water. worked great.
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:48 PM   #33
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40 an acre does not seem to bad. Is there a minimum?
Probably,but I donít know. I was getting ready to burn 40/50 acres when I sold that place so it never happened.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:05 PM   #34
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All you have to do is contact your local biologist. They will prepare a burn plan and bring equipment and crew to burn it. Free.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:18 PM   #35
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All you have to do is contact your local biologist. They will prepare a burn plan and bring equipment and crew to burn it. Free.
Is this state-wide? Ive never heard of this program. Can you provide more info please?
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All you have to do is contact your local biologist. They will prepare a burn plan and bring equipment and crew to burn it. Free.
Not exactly. It is basically a learning program so you can do it yourself in the future. And you will have to prepare the unit.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:54 PM   #37
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I was wondering if the EQIP program would cover the burn. Definitly a good tool to keep brush under control. My place in SMith county has big pine so no undergrowth issues. But my place in Bowie County is a stinking mess.
There is a component for prescribed burning in EQIP.

Whether or not it will get funded in your county is a whole different issue.
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Old 01-20-2021, 07:39 PM   #38
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I’m hoping to perform a prescribed fire a little over a year from now on our family place. We cut a few hundred cedar trees down in an 8 acre portion of the farm I plan to treat as a fire unit. Left them laying where they fell, and will burn them where they laid as well.
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Old 01-20-2021, 07:41 PM   #39
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Commercially, there is an expert. A very seasoned expert, at:
https://www.redbuffalo.us/
I don't know his geographic limits, but you can holler at him and see.

Also, here's another excellent resource for assistance. They won't do it for you, but they will provide a burn plan, a few staff, equipment, and negotiate through a burn ban. However, be aware that it is your fire.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/landwater/lan...ce/biologists/
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:37 PM   #40
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I read somewhere that every acre of Texas used to burn at least every three years. When something started a fire, like lightning it would burn until rain would put it out.
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Old 01-20-2021, 08:41 PM   #41
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I read somewhere that every acre of Texas used to burn at least every three years. When something started a fire, like lightning it would burn until rain would put it out.
Yes sir! Man created most of the habitat you see today in Texas by stopping wild fires.
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Old 01-21-2021, 10:54 AM   #42
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Yes sir! Man created most of the habitat you see today in Texas by stopping wild fires.
^^^^ TRUE THAT.

I watch this deer biologist named Dr. Grant Woods and he uses fire extensively. He has turned his 1500 acres into a whitetail, turkey and animal oasis. He absolutely recommends fire. He also recommends the buffalo system which has worked very well for him and the animals. Most, but not all land managers or ranchers in Central and West Texas are scared to death of fire. If they would learn to use it, the tick population as well as the mesquite and Juniper (mountain cedar) would be very very small as well.

Dr. Woods has his own TV channel on the web as www.growingdeer.tv

Check it out. He covers a lot of stuff.
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Old 01-21-2021, 02:03 PM   #43
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We just bought a place that was logged last year so we have just applied for all the eqip program and that will involve cutting firebreaks this summer so we can burn before replanting this fall/winter. I havent actually gotten real quotes, but the agents stated for the firebreaks i should expect to pay about 15cents/foot and the burning will be 30-40/ac for a company to do it
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On a side note. Anyone ever had a fire get out of control and burn your neighbors property or had a neighbor let one get out of control and burn your place? What happens next? Are you liable for all damages if your fire gets out and burns a neighbors barn down?
Neighbors burned about 90% of my parents property in Junction. It has been 3 years of hell dealing with lawyers, arborist, property appraisals etc. After 3 years settled for very little.
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maybe a dumb question but how does the fire not also burn/kill the oaks - im in junction area - toooooo thick with cedar - but- i dont understand if you burn out the cedar wouldnt you lose alot of oaks too and also if it doesnt kill the oaks how long does it take for them to come back?
how long does it usually take the grasses to grow back - again - hillcountry -i assume it depends on rain etc
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Old 02-28-2021, 10:14 AM   #46
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maybe a dumb question but how does the fire not also burn/kill the oaks - im in junction area - toooooo thick with cedar - but- i dont understand if you burn out the cedar wouldnt you lose alot of oaks too and also if it doesnt kill the oaks how long does it take for them to come back?

how long does it usually take the grasses to grow back - again - hillcountry -i assume it depends on rain etc
Would be interested too in this issue. I have huge post oaks in Navarro County but would benefit from prescribed burns otherwise.
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Old 02-28-2021, 10:38 AM   #47
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Most timber burns utilize a backing fire,Itís burns into the wind. The intensity is much lower than a head fire that burns with the wind. The leaf litter in a timber burn is also a much less volatile fuel source than grass which also helps keep the fire intensity down.
If we have cedars to burn near oaks, we will cut and move out of under the oak canopy. Another option is to cut the cedars and wait a year or so for the cedar needles to fall out. Then you could burn where they lay without having to move them.

Youíd be surprised how fast stuff comes back after a burn. Without grass, thatch or leaves on top of the soil, then add a little sunlight, rain and warmer ground temps- youíll have regeneration no time


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Old 02-28-2021, 10:53 AM   #48
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...i should expect to pay about 15cents/foot and the burning will be 30-40/ac for a company to do it
15 cent per foot?

acre=43,560 sq ft x .15 = $6,534

Am I missing something or is my math bad?
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Old 02-28-2021, 11:04 AM   #49
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Would be interested too in this issue. I have huge post oaks in Navarro County but would benefit from prescribed burns otherwise.

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15 cent per foot?

acre=43,560 sq ft x .15 = $6,534

Am I missing something or is my math bad?
Linear foot, not sq ft. So to $150 for 1000' of firebreak. I havent started pricing anything, just what i was told
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