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Old 02-18-2021, 09:14 PM   #101
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As a technician my job is to keep them spinning, if the demand is high the company makes millions a hour. If itís low we ainít making a ton or we get curtailed. But no matter what I still got to climb 300 feet if itís for millions or not. Wind and solar make up 20% of electricity generated in Texas. Turbines had nothing to do with blackout or anything else thatís all propaganda...
LZ_South turbines and LZ_West turbines...

LZ_West had blade icing in October that was unreported but caused significant issue's with both pricing and reliability. Wind isn't the panacea you claim it be...
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:14 PM   #102
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Here one for all you wind turbine lovers. Not so environmentally friendly after all.

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Old 02-18-2021, 09:24 PM   #103
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So how is this ERCOT price jackup going to work? It went from approximately $.05 to $9 per kwh. I'm in a coop, like many rural customers (Central Texas Electric Coop). Our bill includes a distribution charge, access charge, a "power cost pass-through" charge and "access cost pass-through" charge. Last month we used 985 kwh. Of course, a lot more this past month. Holy crap, are we looking at a $10,000+ electric bill? This can't be right.
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:38 PM   #104
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So how is this ERCOT price jackup going to work? It went from approximately $.05 to $9 per kwh. I'm in a coop, like many rural customers (Central Texas Electric Coop). Our bill includes a distribution charge, access charge, a "power cost pass-through" charge and "access cost pass-through" charge. Last month we used 985 kwh. Of course, a lot more this past month. Holy crap, are we looking at a $10,000+ electric bill? This can't be right.
The $9,000 price cap has been in effect all week. This is for wholesale power. Depending on how well CTEC had the load hedged, they may or may not be able to make the payment that will be due to ERCOT. If CTEC owns generation that has been running, they are high rolling...hope that helps.
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Old 02-19-2021, 01:52 AM   #105
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1.3 million USA dollar an hour? Iím thinking they paid for 3 days ago ...I ainít real good at some math but..
There's more than math you're not good at.
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Old 02-19-2021, 02:40 AM   #106
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I was a dummy and didnít pay attention to what was going to happen during this storm, Iíve been on a variable plan for years and have had cheap elec bills till now. Here is my current bill with Griddy. Weíve switched, just waiting for it to take affect......





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Yup! Especially when you look at what an oil change in one of those turbines costs!
Not only that...................
If you do the math....................
For what it cost, to manufactor each windmill........(and maintain)
It will never generate enough elec, to pay off it's self...............
And they do have, a shelf life................
And many of the components, cannot be recycled, or disposed
of safely......... Yea, green energy, my azz..........

Just another control, and money grab............
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:04 AM   #108
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Not only that...................
If you do the math....................
For what it cost, to manufactor each windmill........(and maintain)
It will never generate enough elec, to pay off it's self...............
And they do have, a shelf life................
And many of the components, cannot be recycled, or disposed
of safely......... Yea, green energy, my azz..........

Just another control, and money grab............
Oil change? Lol thatís not very often when oil needs to be changed. But on a monthly or yearly service all thatís done is filter swaps, grease bearings, torque and tensioning and some basic inspections. Of course you will top off the hydraulic fluid here and there.
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Old 02-19-2021, 08:06 AM   #109
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I was a dummy and didnít pay attention to what was going to happen during this storm, Iíve been on a variable plan for years and have had cheap elec bills till now. Here is my current bill with Griddy. Weíve switched, just waiting for it to take affect......





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Old 02-19-2021, 08:13 AM   #110
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Since I’ve been feeding a generator since Monday morning at 11am and haven’t been a drain on the power grid, this really p*sses me off.
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Old 02-26-2021, 10:30 AM   #111
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Griddy Faces Class Action Lawsuit For Alleged Price Gouging
USA Today (2/25, Miller) reports a woman from Texas named Lisa Khoury has filed a class action lawsuit against Griddy for allegedly price gouging customers amid the blackouts in Texas last week. Khoury, “who filed the lawsuit on behalf of all Griddy customers who were charged the high prices, faced a $9,546 electric bill from Feb. 1 through Feb. 19 as a result of the massive spike in wholesale electric prices in Texas amid a severe winter storm.” Wholesale power prices “soared amid the outages that hit millions of Texans, spiking to $9,000 per megawatt hour compared with the typical rate of $50 per megawatt hour, the lawsuit says.” The lawsuit “seeks to prevent Griddy from billing and collecting payments on the charges with excess prices during the storm and forgiveness for late or unpaid payments as well as the monetary relief.”
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Old 02-26-2021, 10:53 AM   #112
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But I get screamed at for selling a 223 round I paid 50 cents for to someone for $1

How the crap is this not price gouging? And pretty sure electricity is a need and not a want.
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Old 02-27-2021, 02:45 AM   #113
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My wind farm ran 90 towers out of 91 today making 1.3 million a hour all day. I would say thatís pretty reliable.
My 1 Gas Turbine made as much power as your 90 wind turbines and I have another 100 wind turbines of steam turbine capacity. Without Subsidies for renewable power generation accounting to the tune of 128 billion USD the wind turbines would not be ran much.
Don't get me wrong I think they have there place for sure, but the playing field is not equal.
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Just seems like we almost passed on nuclear when we should have been more in favor of it. BTW those rolling blackouts last a lot longer than I thought they would! 4 days off, not 4 hours.

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Just seems like we almost passed on nuclear when we should have been more in favor of it. BTW those rolling blackouts last a lot longer than I thought they would! 4 days off, not 4 hours.
4 days off, 4 days on.

Get used to it as I don't see our power grid improving any time soon. Our summer months will be the true test.
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Old 02-27-2021, 09:54 AM   #117
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Just got my electric bill and it was $14.00 less than last month. I was pleasantly surprised.


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As a technician my job is to keep them spinning, if the demand is high the company makes millions a hour. If itís low we ainít making a ton or we get curtailed. But no matter what I still got to climb 300 feet if itís for millions or not. Wind and solar make up 20% of electricity generated in Texas. Turbines had nothing to do with blackout or anything else thatís all propaganda...
So out of that 20% , how much were they producing during the blackouts during the artic blast?
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I have followed the last two days of state Senate and Legislator over sight committees grilling of certain key electric players in the State; heads of renewables, CEO’s of NRG, Distran Corp, Calpine, AEP Texas, etc etc, each said, no end users bills will increase because of poor planning on their parts..........then came the three most at fault, Chairperson Walker of the PUCT, Chairperson Cradick of the Railroad Commission and CEO Bill Magness of ERCOT.

I have came to the conclusion after listening to each..........everyone of them are at fault but it’s not their fault???? And they are all so sorry for the oops......

Cradick is blaming ERCOT for the lack of gas to run generators because power was shed to the largest NG fields out west. Generators are blaming the gas fields for not being able to run at full capacity or not enough gas to run at all and or start up units. Renewables are blaming the transmission grid for not being able to handle all the wind generation that was available and transmit it to the area in most need of it. While Walker and Magness are having trouble answering any difficult questions.........I’ll have to get back with you is a common response with those two.

What a political circus with an agenda of finding a single scape goat.

All just my personal observation, watch for yourself but have a blood pressure monitor hooked up.........Lordy what a cluster.

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So out of that 20% , how much were they producing during the blackouts during the artic blast?
Both renewables (wind and solar) out performed their projections for the occurrence period. Not sure of the exact numbers. State grid had some congestion on a few 345 kV transmission lines (one coming in from Deep South and two from the panhandle) that limited the amount of renewables to be transmitted to the Houston area and the DFW area is what I am understanding.

Note: even if you could have transmitted all the available renewables it would not have been enough to off set the demand and load shed would have still happened.

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Both renewables (wind and solar) out performed their projections for the occurrence period. Not sure of the exact numbers. State grid had some congestion on a few 345 kV transmission lines (one coming in from Deep South and two from the panhandle) that limited the amount of renewables to be transmitted to the Houston area and the DFW area is what I am understanding.

Note: even if you could have transmitted all the available renewables it would not have been enough to off set the demand and load shed would have still happened.

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I caught the tail end of a report stating that they provided 3% during that time.
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I caught the tail end of a report stating that they provided 3% during that time.
It was on the Michael Berry show one evening....I'll see if I can find it.

I don't always quote myself......but when I do....I quote myself.
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Wind and solar should not be part of the minimal supply calculations. They arenít reliable enough.
And they are not even economical without tax subsidies.
Natural gas is clean, cheap and plentiful to produce electricity. And it creates jobs.
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As a technician my job is to keep them spinning, if the demand is high the company makes millions a hour. If itís low we ainít making a ton or we get curtailed. But no matter what I still got to climb 300 feet if itís for millions or not. Wind and solar make up 20% of electricity generated in Texas. Turbines had nothing to do with blackout or anything else thatís all propaganda...
If they are part of the electrical grid they had something to do with the blackouts. From what i have read, wind turbines had a significantly higher failure rate than other type of power plants.
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:29 PM   #125
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My question is, how much money has the average Griddy customer save over the last few years? They have saved a lot and now they have to repay some of it. They signed up for a variable rate. You have to take the good with the bad.
I'm sure some of them were bragging about all the money the were saving.
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Old 02-27-2021, 05:03 PM   #126
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But I get screamed at for selling a 223 round I paid 50 cents for to someone for $1

How the crap is this not price gouging? And pretty sure electricity is a need and not a want.
Thereís not a store or a website someone goes to, to purchase megawatt contracts. This is done on the dailyís desk, where I used to broker ERCOT power. Generators and buyers (or owners of said contracts) go into the market place to buy and or sell these contracts. Some folks didnít prepare for a 100 year event and got low on power, then went to the daily market and it ran up significantly. Those ďWITHĒ the commodity set the price, you either buy it or you run out. Its capitalism and thatís how it works with corn, gasoline, water, hay or whatever it is youíre selling. What sucks, is that these ďelectricity wholesalersĒ get away with their screw ups and are being allowed to pass it on to the consumer. I bet they didnít share the profits they made!!
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:20 PM   #127
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I received an email from my provider saying my rate will stay the same as I signed up for I guess they have made enough off of me that they can afford to absorb some of the extra cost.
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:32 PM   #128
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Grayson County electric said their rates won't change
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Old 02-27-2021, 07:09 PM   #129
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Varible rates have killed people this past month. sign up for a long term fixed rate and maybe pay a little more in the long run but will not be subject to multiple thousand dollar electric bills for his past storm.
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Back in the HL&P day everything was over built, better then anywhere in the United States. Along comes De-regulation and poof look what we have.
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Back in the HL&P day everything was over built, better then anywhere in the United States. Along comes De-regulation and poof look what we have.
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The finger pointing will go on and on. In my opinion it's a money issue. Ultra-influential rich and the politician’s money games. Renewables are needed and have a place, but the big push is filling someone's pockets and other players suffer. I have attended several black start training classes and leave every time thinking boy that would be a mess. It’s my understanding it was very close to being that mess for the whole state. From my training I’d say it would be months before it would of been back normal. I can tell you every System Operator, Transmission and Delivery groups and Power plant operators across Texas did everything in their power to keep things up and running. Texas power industry has not been built for that type of weather for that long of period. Bottom line is it happened, and it needs to be fixed.
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Man, that sucks.
Learned my lesson with Griddy in summer of 2019. Couldn't switch fast enough when it happened. Can't remember what Bill was exactly but it was 600-800 over just a few says.

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Old 02-28-2021, 07:42 AM   #134
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Was that $600 to $800 an average bill? Was it ever cheap?
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:47 AM   #135
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For $100.00 a year they take the responsibilty to find you a 6 month or 1 year contract that is cheep.
Just sit back and let them research providers. Think my bill this month is $250.00...............
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The finger pointing will go on and on. In my opinion it's a money issue. Ultra-influential rich and the politician’s money games. Renewables are needed and have a place, but the big push is filling someone's pockets and other players suffer. I have attended several black start training classes and leave every time thinking boy that would be a mess. It’s my understanding it was very close to being that mess for the whole state. From my training I’d say it would be months before it would of been back normal. I can tell you every System Operator, Transmission and Delivery groups and Power plant operators across Texas did everything in their power to keep things up and running. Texas power industry has not been built for that type of weather for that long of period. Bottom line is it happened, and it needs to be fixed.

Black Start.......wish every rate payer could get a glimpse of that process! Four days without power would be a cake walk compared to a month of no power for all of ERCOT grid members.

I agree renewables have their place (small place), but anyone with common sense would have to agree that for every megawatt of renewables that ERCOR
T counts on as part of “reserve margins” would need an equal amount of fossil fueled generation as back up due to the uncertainty of renewables.

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Same here. It was $50 less and I never lost power during the freeze. I was ready though, thank goodness. I do feel for all the guys struggling with that.
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Old 03-01-2021, 07:27 AM   #138
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Our COOP raised our rate from .08 Kwh to .14 Kwh this month. I was expecting a fairly high bill this month, but this is a little excessive in my mind........personally I have no problem paying my bill, but there will be a lot of folks that are fixing to get outrageous electric bills and they will be screwed....
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The finger pointing will go on and on. In my opinion it's a money issue. Ultra-influential rich and the politicianís money games. Renewables are needed and have a place, but the big push is filling someone's pockets and other players suffer. I have attended several black start training classes and leave every time thinking boy that would be a mess. Itís my understanding it was very close to being that mess for the whole state. From my training Iíd say it would be months before it would of been back normal. I can tell you every System Operator, Transmission and Delivery groups and Power plant operators across Texas did everything in their power to keep things up and running. Texas power industry has not been built for that type of weather for that long of period. Bottom line is it happened, and it needs to be fixed.
Talked with my dad this past weekend. He was a chief system operator back in 1989 and was active in the rolling blackouts back then to prevent the catastrophic failure. He said him and another chief got to give seminars at ERCOT meetings (pre-deregulation) on black start processes. He said he called his buddy the other day and said "maybe we should go give that presentation again"

My dad has talked with on of the operators at ERCOT who worked for him when he retired and said we were pretty close to going to a black start protocol. Not sure what the cycle frequency is where it goes down, but it got close at one point.
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For $100.00 a year they take the responsibilty to find you a 6 month or 1 year contract that is cheep.
Just sit back and let them research providers. Think my bill this month is $250.00...............

We have been using energy ogre for the last several years. I had tried to do my own research before giving them a shot. We easily cut our cost by 25% to even 50% in the summer months. Always fixed rates. Each time they changed providers our cost did not go up.
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For $100.00 a year they take the responsibilty to find you a 6 month or 1 year contract that is cheep.
Just sit back and let them research providers. Think my bill this month is $250.00...............
Looks like you have to give them your credit card info so they can auto draft your account....right? And it automatically renews unless you go through extra motions to end it?
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Looks like you have to give them your credit card info so they can auto draft your account....right? And it automatically renews unless you go through extra motions to end it?
Yes, either credit card or autodraft from bank. We have been with credit card, $10 a month since 2017. They take care of everything when they find a new provider. Setup new account, etc.
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Question and excuse my lack on knowledge on the subject. A lot has been said about well heads freezing. Did that really happen or not ?
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Old 03-02-2021, 05:27 PM   #145
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Question and excuse my lack on knowledge on the subject. A lot has been said about well heads freezing. Did that really happen or not ?
They cut power off to our field didn’t lose it. No power not much you can do besides shut everything in. Freezing issues were minor before that. No freezing at well heads some at facilities on water lines. All our compressor stations are electric drive as well hard to move any gas with out power.
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They cut power off to our field didnít lose it. No power not much you can do besides shut everything in. Freezing issues were minor before that. No freezing at well heads some at facilities on water lines. All our compressor stations are electric drive as well hard to move any gas with out power.
Thank you. Thatís what I thought but wanted to hear it from someone with firsthand experience.
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